I completely agree. Event Horizon is one of those films that a lot of people *remember* being great. But if they were to go back and watch it... it's a total cheese fest with some of the worst dialogue ever written.>> ^dag:
Event Horizon was a horrible, horrible, brainlessly poor excuse for a movie. Flicks like Alien show us that horror and SF can meld well, this was not an example of it.

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Event Horizon was a horrible, horrible, brainlessly poor excuse for a movie. Flicks like Alien show us that horror and SF can meld well, this was not an example of it.

Oh, no, you see... there is missing audio... yeah, their thoughts were supposed to be playing over this.

Straight after the 'put her there' it was supposed to have this audio:

Beardy: "Here are my white hands for your black hands friend, like a melding of cultures"

Smiley: "Feel the strength of my hands... feeeel them."

B: "Oh yes... yes... I, I, I feel that, mmm, I feel that, yes. Wait, are you looking at me?"

S: "Look at those languid eyes, look at them, they penetrate my very soul"

B: "Oh God, he can see my soul, I know he can... he.. he *sniff* he sees the real me"
B: "Ahem... I, um... no, I won't let him get to me, I promised myself I wouldn't cry"
S: "Heeee, I just peed my pants... heeeee"
B: "Oh... oh, you just pissed, I can smell it, quite rancid, you must have been holding onto that for quite some time my friend"
S: "Aaaah, man that feels good, you have no idea how long I've been holding onto that"

3030 way past the millennium, check it out
Yo, Deltron thunderforce, ain't no other source of sunlight
Two ton mic, leave you toungue-tied
Runnin amuck with technology with no apology
Shoutin out to my colony with third eye physiology
Millennium past apocalypse is all I spit
Make you swallow it - your weak style, I'll abolish it
with nuclear rockets they glued to your optics with sci-fi
Unsettlin, man and metal blends
Underground chillin with the Mole Man, and his whole fam
Inhibit bacterial growth, material wrote
Impenetrable, incontestable, indigestible intelligence
Never let a computer tell me SHIT
It's rapid innovation, penetratin
Artificial life forms, who bite songs
I'm a buy a vest, lie is next, then I'll flip the bio-techs
Right into the wireless; your third eye is hit with psoriasis
The mightiest, Deltron Zero
Traverse and purge the travesties that tempt your earholds
The area of distribution, lifts the clueless
My flow is like, liquid oxygen
Rip it often with specific impulse, increasin thrust
Grease the cuts - unleash a cluster of thoughts I muster
I talk to touch ya, and rupture commercial communications
Convert solar energy, into imagery
In the mind's eye, blindside the contagious
With radioactive isotopes to decay them
Atomic mass they small as fragments
I magnetize the avid lies
My radiation shields reflects, rejects Decepticons
who take the truth and stretch it long, while I bless a song
Next level incredible, metal melding
Flexability and my engine is never failing

All your rhyme histories combined couldn't violate
the Prime Optimus operative
Use my hydrometer to see how warm you are, watch me form a star
Hydrogen turned to helium when I shine
Ridin 'em revealin 'em leadin 'em to the vacuum
Interact with tunes in my digital citadel
Critical pivotal with the mental shit on you
Spit infinity, hiden energies too dope for our planet
Star spannin, slammin hymms with
mechanical limbs, scanning your lens
with cosmic rays, you'll all get played, your brain's inferior
I hit the lateral AND posterior
My science is eerier
Ionic bonding for your moronic pondering, meet the armorines
My micro machines, might throw your team, into paralysis
They not talented, just a malady
Worry 'bout a salary, creative casualty
Couldn't defrag my power density intensity
Nonequivalence, nine hundred Newtons
Crush you like croutons, you plus Houston
Hiero's like dipoles inside a silo
Turbulence ten-fold, never simple
Defies accepted methods development most unique
Paralyze central nervous when you close to me
Interstellar void fills with color, appears to bubble
and split into four like amoeba
Inhabitin planets with, grandiose boast
and coast like Silver Surfer, feel the purpoise
High velocity, verbal atrocities
Fire resistance, better hire assistants
My pistons glisten ultra, high performance
Inside your private quarters where I fry your components

Looks like he did indeed get a lot of his look and dance moves from that. But the genius was, taking these moves from a film almost no-one has heard of, with a song that's pretty forgettable, and melding them, and morphing them with his music to create something that is recognizable the world over. The best things out there tend to be fusing of many already existing elements.

^

Do you really not get what he is saying? I am not sure Pprt was even alluding to race in the way you are.

I think what he means is that multiculturalism has failed in certain respects because culture is such an innate part of who an individual is that to try and meld cultures together is so radical that it almost denies the meaning of culture itself... I think.

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That's why we try and keep the Sift as flawed as possible - it appeals to the OCD in all of us. There is just so much around here that needs fixing!

BTW obsessive behaviour on the Sift is nothing compared to the iPhone users in my office. They are absolutely unable to sit through a 30 minute meeting without thumbing through texts or googling something. The human/machine mind-meld is getting near.

Aww hang it, give him the Vulcan wedgie meld

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^Ahh, strawman arguments, love em.

Its not a strawman, how did I misconstrue your assertion? these are the words right out of your mouth:

No country should ever be run by a complete, hard line anything really, as you need a bit of it all melded together.

if thats not an argument against extremism--what is it?

>> ^imstellar28:
^spoco2
And thinking of a country run by actual libertarians... would be horrific, as it would by authoritarians. No country should ever be run by a complete, hard line anything really, as you need a bit of it all melded together.
what on earth are you talking about? liberty is the root word from which libertarianism is derived. libertarians want extremely limited government: it is the exact opposite of authoritarianism.


Exactly what I was saying, they are polar opposites.

Either extreme would be terrible. A group of people who want to be able to pretty much any damn thing they please and not have anyone to answer to running the country would be god damned terrible. As would the OPPOSITE, as in authoritarians.

Geeze, try to read a bit better, which seems to be your major problem in your aggressive reaction to this talk overall really... you don't quite 'get' where he's coming from I don't think.

Your complete misunderstanding of what point 5 is all about just as a simple example is stunning.

^spoco2

And thinking of a country run by actual libertarians... would be horrific, as it would by authoritarians. No country should ever be run by a complete, hard line anything really, as you need a bit of it all melded together.

what on earth are you talking about? liberty is the root word from which libertarianism is derived. libertarians want extremely limited government: it is the exact opposite of authoritarianism.

This was a great talk indeed, fascinating stuff.

From looking at some of the comments here there are calls for 'four party systems' and the like...

But you know what, it doesn't work that way.

For instance. In Australia, there are the two really big parties, the Liberals (who are actually conservative) and the Labor Party (Who are the left wingers). But then there are two other pretty large parties, the Greens (very environment focused, very left), and the Democrats (also left, but not as much as the Greens).

Now... the Greens and the Democrats wax and wane in popularity, and win seats and the like, but never really pose a real threat at taking leadership of the country.

And why is that? Because the majority of people are pretty much... average... and they don't give that much thought to the long terms affects of political decisions, they don't think about what's best for the community as a whole, just what they see as best for them.

They don't necessarily think about injustice or the like, just how they can get ahead better.

And thinking of a country run by actual libertarians... would be horrific, as it would by authoritarians. No country should ever be run by a complete, hard line anything really, as you need a bit of it all melded together.

And that's really what the major parties in each country appear to give.

Although I am saddened about how right the middle seems to be moving... more and more right, less and less left. Sad.

While you do a good job pointing out some perceived flaws, am curious to find out what you would do to reverse this trend? I think alot of what you mention is actually sociological and natural in our society. What you are pushing for is as DjSunKid said an extremist stance of feminism.

While there are women who strive to be the leaders in their profession and achieve something for themselves, there is a large segment of the female population that is quite alright with fitting in the stereotype of being female, of dressing up, of being sexy, of being chased, screeching when they see a mouse and looking for a big strong man. There is a entire industry centered around this. This is a standard that has been psychologically upheld by society as a whole, and women themselves. Something I see alot in the society where I live, the Arab world, very few girls try hard here because why should they? They are going to marry a Arabian Istallion and have kids and shop in Gucci and Versace. They are perfectly happy in that role.

I think some of that is social, some of it is psychological from media exposure, the barbie dolls, the princess stories and so on that build up a psychological outlook that some connect with and accept as their own and some reject.

For example look at someone like Ayn Rand.

I talked to a lot of medical students, some of them were female, most of them were heading to OBYGN and pediatrics, both deal with kids and children. They choose to do so. You will hardly find many women in the role of surgeon for example. Is this discrimination?

Back in University I had a chance to befriend a woman in her 50s who was doing adult education, she looked and acted alot like a man. Probing her previous profession she told me she was a construction foreman. She explained that for co workers and clients to take her seriously she had to adopt a hard exterior, or else no one would have obeyed her as a boss or took her seriously managerially. But she had no quams about this, she said certain businesses require male standpoint, not to mean the sex but the qualities, hard, aggressive and stubborn.

Look at how Hillary Clinton tried to meld her campaign, did it pay for her to play on her female side? did it pay for her to become more manly? Then look at someone like Margaret Thatcher. She was asexual as far as am concerned in her politics.

The equality of sexes has been reached, and there has been large progress since the 1800s and the suffrage movement. Women have the right to vote, work, enter politics, and professional occupations. There is still inequality when it comes to pay scale but I believe this is balancing out now in the world economy because administration and business is gender neutral most of the time. Results are far more important.

But does it mean the higher echelons of power are male dominated? Not at all. Germany, Bangladesh, US and many other nations have females who reached high levels of power. There is an abundance of strong female role models.

With regards to the comments on this website, this is the internet the demographic of this website is in the 18-25 range most are students, many are lonely introverted types. Most are male, some are here before or after being to a porn site. This goes a long way to describe the "Omfg shes hot" type of comments.

With regards to cinema and the like, its business. Its marketing and demographics, one shouldn't read too much into it.

The problem Hollywood has with creating female heroes is that they work on base levels so they push a hard women, which is psychologically constructed in such a way as being Bitchy. This is frankly because people in Hollywood think on those levels, they never deal in complicated characters. They need standardized themes, of conflict, and love and very often a strange sex scene where you didn't expect one.

Take the example of Lara Croft that was made into two films. The video game portrayed her as a smart intelligent royal who did tomb raids. Instead of vividly exploring this, by way of Batman orgins where she say fell into a cave and explored and developed into a tom boy and found a ancient dagger or something, they instead went simply with telling the audience that she is that way because her daddy was like that. Because Hollywood producers are idiots and they are desperately trying to connect and hit that 15-20 year demographic that needs to see a tit.

The US version of Thomas the Tank engine is an absolute travesty, and the movie is excruciating.

The proper series is a charming little show all wrapped up in the model world of the trains. To then do this weird melding of 'real' people and the 'fantastical' world of Thomas completely misses the point of the show.

It's yet another case of Americans deciding they need to change something that was never broken.

Absolutely brilliant. The perfect melding of substance and style; viral, funny, catchy, yet not preachy. So good.