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NASA finds signs of flowing water on Mars!

Boise_Lib says...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^Boise_Lib:
I'm waiting for an explanation of why they show up on North facing slopes. If this were LIQUID H2O I would think they would be on South facing (more towards the sun) slopes.
I hope NASA gets continued funding, but their PR needs to be more honest with less pandering to sensationalism.

The area in the video is in the southern hemisphere so the north-facing slopes would be getting more sun exposure than the south-facing slopes.
Also the (NASA) title of the video is "Possible Water Flows on Warm Martian Slopes". That doesn't seem all that sensationalist. Blame the media for the hype.


Thanks, I didn't realize this was the southern hemisphere. I'm not the only one leery of NASA hype though (check the comments out):

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/08/04/water-on-mars/#comments

NASA finds signs of flowing water on Mars!

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^Boise_Lib:

I'm waiting for an explanation of why they show up on North facing slopes. If this were LIQUID H2O I would think they would be on South facing (more towards the sun) slopes.
I hope NASA gets continued funding, but their PR needs to be more honest with less pandering to sensationalism.


The area in the video is in the southern hemisphere so the north-facing slopes would be getting more sun exposure than the south-facing slopes.

Also the (NASA) title of the video is "Possible Water Flows on Warm Martian Slopes". That doesn't seem all that sensationalist. Blame the media for the hype.

Radio Tower collapses in the Netherlands

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^therealblankman:

If you look closely you can see the streams of molten metal from the previously implanted explosives and thermite. Also note that the tower collapses faster than the force of gravity, leading to the inescapable conclusion that evil space aliens created a singularity that sucked the antennae into oblivion.


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BicycleRepairMan says...

Not to beat the point dead, but what If I said the following "There is a civilization on mars" (ie Martians) Now, if I further went on to call people who didnt believe this "Non-martianists" or "amartianists", how would you go about "asserting amartianism"?

Try replacing "atheism" in Craigs arguments with "amartianism"

"If amartianism is true, then there is no basis for .."
"Are you an amartianist who asserts that martians dont exist?"

This is clearly an insanely stupid set of arguments.

We are, most of us, amartianists because theres no evidence that martians exists. Its that simple. Same with gods.

It makes no sense to say "Well, unless you can piece together a complete explanation and explain everything in the universe without martians, there must be martians, therefore amartianism is flawed"

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Aren't Atheists just as dogmatic as born again Christians?

bmacs27 says...

>> ^AnimalsForCrackers:

Maybe I'm just weird like that for being puzzled here, but if something is "outside of science" or "outside our universe", then by what magical method of knowing do people claim to know or suspect it exists in the first place? Shouldn't the most parsimonious answer be a provisional designation of non-existence until shown otherwise?
Something that can be asserted without evidence can reasonably be dismissed without evidence. It's not up to the unbelievers to prove a negative.
I understand people do not want to appear to be extreme or dogmatic, but an appeal to the middle ground (a 50/50 split probability for or against; a false equivalence) in the name of moderation, is still fallacious.


It's not entirely clear that people mean something that is "outside of science," and I certainly don't see many claiming that their god is "outside the universe." Most claim to have had direct personal experience with a deity. Many of whom are people I trust. Further, they seem to be honestly recounting their experience, and seem to have no motivation to deceive me (unlike claims of spaghetti monsters or martian teapots). While typically I wouldn't consider such reports particularly strong evidence of anything, it is certainly as strong (if not stronger) than the evidence opposing the existence of a deity, which are typically inferred from vague concepts like "parsimony" (aka Bayesian kool-aid). All evidence of existence (e.g. your existence) is tenuous at best, and all of it is inferred from internal mental states. That's why I find that the null model is typically derived from commonsense, not any hard and fast rules about existence or nonexistence. In this particular case, I find that people are relatively split. I have accordingly split my prior.

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kronosposeidon says...

So the Martians learned that raping their planet would be the key to liberty, as well lubing up their...spaceships? Which apparently don't need oil, but their ground transportation does?

And we laughed at the Soviets for their propaganda.

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Throbbin says...

The weather is actually not so bad. Most people have terrifying visions of an icy martian landscape. It gets cold, but it's a DRY cold. Seriously - a world of difference.

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