The door is open.

Thanks.

Anyway, I think it is foolish for anyone to say that god does not exist and they know it. But, god could mean so many things. All I know is that a bunch of dudes wrote the Bible based on older stories. It is man made, there may be some truth to it but there is some truth to everything. The kind of fascism hypocricy that today's extremist republican christians exhibit disgusts me. They would let rich, corrupt motherfuckers, manipulate them for their own gain and throw them from a plane. Their perception of reality is so completely bent by right wing think tanks and corporatism that they live in some sort of Christian inspired DaDa universe while the rich send their zombie minds to the polls to vote with their manipulated hearts and steal every last penny from their coffers as they self willingly turn a blind eye.

Well, in this context God means the being that created the Universe. The scripture claims to be revelation from this God, in the person of Jesus Christ. God says we have all sinned and are accountable to Him for our sins, but He sent a Savior who paid the price for our sins so we could be forgiven and have eternal life with Him. Jesus says everyone who comes to God must go through Him:

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

So, God could be many things, but there is only one way to know God according to Jesus. So, it's not something you can just pick and choose from. If Jesus wasn't raised from the dead, none of it is true. I have found His claims to be true.

I can't speak for your impressions of Christians as seen through the lens of our current culture, but seen through the lens of society at large Christians have been a force for good. Before the welfare system was created, the church in America was providing the social safety net, and still does in a number of ways. They're the ones running the charities, food banks, youth centers, blood drives, homeless shelters, etc. Look in any community, you will undoubtedly find Christians taking care of the poor and doing good works. I'm not saying there are no secular charities, food banks, etc, but this is something the church is well noted for.

There is some truth to what you say. Christians are not perfect, and unfortunately in the western church this sometimes becomes very apparent. You do not usually see this kind of behavior from Christians in countries where there is some cost to becoming a Christian. When there is no cost to following Christ, the church becomes lazy and apostate, as you see today in America. A good percentage of American Christians probably are not saved. This isn't though a reason to reject Jesus. He in fact predicted this behavior from Christians in Matthew 24. It is simply that we are not following His ways that you see this kind of behavior.

Question: Do you have any church background or were you raised in a secular home?

Hey Shinyblurry,

This is exactly why you should come over to my house and try some DMT. You said anyone who does it is under control of demons. How would you know if you havent tried? Are you saying that you do not really know anything at all?

The door is open.

Anyway, I think it is foolish for anyone to say that god does not exist and they know it. But, god could mean so many things. All I know is that a bunch of dudes wrote the Bible based on older stories. It is man made, there may be some truth to it but there is some truth to everything. The kind of fascism hypocricy that today's extremist republican christians exhibit disgusts me. They would let rich, corrupt motherfuckers, manipulate them for their own gain and throw them from a plane. Their perception of reality is so completely bent by right wing think tanks and corporatism that they live in some sort of Christian inspired DaDa universe while the rich send their zombie minds to the polls to vote with their manipulated hearts and steal every last penny from their coffers as they self willingly turn a blind eye.

I guessed the LRO because he didn't ask what man made artifacts on Earth can be seen from the moon.

>> ^Drachen_Jager:

>> ^deathcow:
But those photons aren't man made.

Neither are the photons reflecting off of the Great Wall. So, by your logic, nothing man-made can be seen from any distance.


touche

>> ^deathcow:

But those photons aren't man made.


Neither are the photons reflecting off of the Great Wall. So, by your logic, nothing man-made can be seen from any distance.

>> ^deathcow:

But those photons aren't man made.


Only converted !

But those photons aren't man made.

>> ^bobknight33:

There is climate change then then there is Al Gore and the leftist man made climate change.

Man made climate change theory is pure BS. Only fools believe this.


To be honest, I don't care if a coalition between the Marx Brothers, Oscar The Grouch, and the entire hamlet of Troskač. A significant alteration in the biosphere is still all it would take to reduce modern civilization to a state of absolute ruin.

Rarely do I see emergency workers begin to investigate the cause of a fire as the building burns down around them.

I don't know if we'll ever get to an "I told you so" on the anthropogenic cause, but within 10 years or so I think even the hardest of hard core Fox News watchers will have to stop denying that climate change is happening. At that point they will still deny that giant multi-billion dollar corporations and massive farming of the rain forests have anything to do with it, they'll stick to their "it is a natural" cycle, feedback loops be damned, and continue saying "follow the money" when they point to who is saying it is man made, while ignoring their own advice and following the money to who is saying it isn't man made. Even if they do believe it man made, they'll say it won't matter as a large number of the deniers are evangelicals who say Jesus is coming again soon and he'll whisk them away before it gets too bad. I know because I've heard them say this very line, they use this line to say it doesn't matter who somebody votes for as well, though they still follow Fox and vote as the Republican right tells them to vote... Anyhow I think part of the problem is a lack of basic understanding of science, not understanding what a theory is and how it comes about, and the fact it got politicized (and unfortunately for those of us who accept the scientific facts, Gore may have done more harm than good by being a bit more alarmist in some areas and mis-representing some facts for the deniers to point to and say see the whole thing is false). I used to be a skeptic, but then I followed the research trail back on both sides, saw who was saying what exactly, and it became clear that we are screwed...

TLDR: They may come to accept climate change is happening, but still won't accept that humans have much if anything to do with it.

>> ^alcom:

Superstorm Sandy is another example of society's march past the greenhouse tipping-point like the lemmings that we are. I laid it our in arguments in this video, where I was vehemently opposed by doubt-fuelled, fear monger, climate change deniers:
http://videosift.com/video/Climate-Change-Latest-science-update
We're so close to that "I told you so" moment. By that time unfortunately, the methane feedback loop will probably be well under way.

Certainly the climate has changed before man became involved. That's not the point. The point is that the specific changes that we should be concerned about are the changes that we are responsible for. These are the changes in climate that we can have an effect on, because these are the changes in climate that we effected.

Splitting hairs on syntax only empowers the deniers.>> ^Mammaltron:

>> ^KnivesOut:

The serious scientific community has absolute consensus on climate change. They know it's happening, they know it's man-made, and they know we have to move immediately to mute the damage. The only "debate" is between actual scientists and industry hacks.
I see this statement a lot, but grossly over-simplifying doesn't help the fight against the deniers.
1. Climate change is categorically not "man-made". It has always happened, will always happen. There's no such thing as a static climate.
2. We are evidently contributing to it, and even relatively small changes in a chaotic system can have massive implications.
3. This particular chaotic system is comprised of vast, intricate and poorly-understood feedback loops. There may or may not be anything we can do about climate change. Stopping with the planet-rape is a good idea in any case.

>> ^KnivesOut:


The serious scientific community has absolute consensus on climate change. They know it's happening, they know it's man-made, and they know we have to move immediately to mute the damage. The only "debate" is between actual scientists and industry hacks.

I see this statement a lot, but grossly over-simplifying doesn't help the fight against the deniers.

1. Climate change is categorically not "man-made". It has always happened, will always happen. There's no such thing as a static climate.

2. We are evidently contributing to it, and even relatively small changes in a chaotic system can have massive implications.

3. This particular chaotic system is comprised of vast, intricate and poorly-understood feedback loops. There may or may not be anything we can do about climate change. Stopping with the planet-rape is a good idea in any case.

I don't really know with a 100% certainty that humans are 100% responsible for climate change but I do believe that we do create and are creating an impact. I don't know the science behind it but when I see that scientists tend to believe it is real and is happening I have to give that credibility because who would know better than they? What I think is even more important than climate change however is it's big brother sustainability. I bet the people in the audience would chant U.S.A. to that question as well. Mainly because people are afraid of the answer to that question and they would rather pretend it doesn't exist. I believe they think the present is more important than the future. But, when helium and tungsten prices start shooting through the roof and people are no longer able to afford to blow up a balloon for their kids birthday and light bulbs start steadily rising in costs these problems will no longer be avoidable. I think that is what scares me most about this video is we could be doing something about it now.>> ^bobknight33:

There is climate change then then there is Al Gore and the leftist man made climate change.

Man made climate change theory is pure BS. Only fools believe this.

There is climate change then then there is Al Gore and the leftist man made climate change.


Man made climate change theory is pure BS. Only fools believe this.

Great article.

Romney: "However, there remains a lack of scientific consensus on the issue — on the extent of the warming, the extent of the human contribution, and the severity of the risk"

Nope, wrong, same old climate-denial bullshit. He tempered it for the target SciAm audience, but it's the same old "Well... we just don't know for sure" nonsense.

The serious scientific community has absolute consensus on climate change. They know it's happening, they know it's man-made, and they know we have to move immediately to mute the damage. The only "debate" is between actual scientists and industry hacks.>> ^deedub81:

2. Climate Change. The Earth’s climate is changing and there is concern about the potentially adverse effects of these changes on life on the planet. What is your position on cap-and-trade, carbon taxes, and other policies proposed to address global climate change—and what steps can we take to improve our ability to tackle challenges like climate change that cross national boundaries?
Read the candidate's answers to the question above: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=obama-romney-scie
nce-debate

The science seems pretty clear on man made climate change, what isn't as clear is what the means for the ecosystem at large. Weather models are harder to predict than climate, but that is even more reason to tread lightly. In the end, though, until clean energy is cheaper than dino fuels, don't expect any change. That is why I place my chips on nuclear energy, it is the fastest and cheapest way to roll out energy cheaper than coal...the only kind of energy the emerging 3rd world can afford.