>> ^quantumushroom:

Death penalty:
"The 775 killers who were executed between 1998 and 2008 had murdered at least 1591 people. That is an average of 2 victims per executed killer."
Liberals never quite get around to thinking about the victims of the convicted murderers on death row; not ONE of the latter has ever been proven innocent--posthumously or otherwise--since the 1950s.
"If we are to abolish the death penalty, I should like to see the first step taken by my friends the murderers."
-- Alphonse Karr (1808-1890)


Irrelevant (and also wrong, but anyway). Leaving aside the questionable morality of state-sponsored revenge killing, it fails both as a tool for law enforcement and as a fiscally conservative policy. It costs way more to execute someone than to incarcerate them for life.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Ron Paul Health Care: it was a loaded, piss-poor question and liberals know it. Why? Because there are two scenarios for the question. Is our theoretical 30-year-old living in "our" world where there is de facto socialist health care in the USA? I asked someone with a degree in Hospital Admin what would be his fate. Her answer: "If he has no insurance, his care is free."
OR is the scenario taking place in a libertarian free market health care world, which has NEVER been allowed to exist?
I gots no problems with liberal foolishness; it exists in abundance. What I despise is intellectual dishonesty and these crafted propagandist soundbites from the original source, not even the smarmy Liberalviewer, were just that.


It's a reasonable question. No, that world (thankfully) doesn't exist, but it's a world RP wants to create. We're entitled to know how his pie-in-the-sky bullshit would pan out in the real world.

And to hear a conservative complain about intellectual dishonesty and crafted soundbites is really the pot calling the kettle black.

Death penalty:

"The 775 killers who were executed between 1998 and 2008 had murdered at least 1591 people. That is an average of 2 victims per executed killer."

Liberals never quite get around to thinking about the victims of the convicted murderers on death row; not ONE of the latter has ever been proven innocent--posthumously or otherwise--since the 1950s.

"If we are to abolish the death penalty, I should like to see the first step taken by my friends the murderers."
-- Alphonse Karr (1808-1890)


Ron Paul Health Care: it was a loaded, piss-poor question and liberals know it. Why? Because there are two scenarios for the question. Is our theoretical 30-year-old living in "our" world where there is de facto socialist health care in the USA? I asked someone with a degree in Hospital Admin what would be his fate. Her answer: "If he has no insurance, his care is free."

OR is the scenario taking place in a libertarian free market health care world, which has NEVER been allowed to exist?

I gots no problems with liberal foolishness; it exists in abundance. What I despise is intellectual dishonesty and these crafted propagandist soundbites from the original source, not even the smarmy Liberalviewer, were just that.

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I didn't know about this site before (hat tip to DerHassittot).

"Fox News Bias" by LiberalViewer on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A3BD2524FE99BD4D

I totally agree, it doesn't need to take 10 minutes. I removed a couple sentences while writing that made that comment unclear. My original point was that the type of people who are fact checking Fox and making YT videos are NOT the type who understand persuasion & delivery. This video should have been a minute-forty. Two-ten tops. You can't give me a 10 minute video to watch. I just don't care enough. And if I don't, I assure you that the YT poster's “target audience” definitely doesn't.

If he's going to post a 10 minute video, he needs to get to the point, the meat of the video, the crux of the argument, within the first minute. Then from there he can elaborate and explain and extoll to his heart's content. Give 'em the old inverted pyramid. Essentially my point is this is what Fox is doing right and he is doing wrong, which is why 99& of Fox viewers now believe Liu is in favor of reparations.>> ^entr0py:

>> ^handmethekeysyou:
^ Because as easy as it is to fact check, it's even easier NOT to fact check, which is the route that 99% of viewers will take.
Also, when someone does fact check and posts a video, it takes him 10 minutes to sort it out, which is probably longer than the actual clip he's discussing was.
This video has just shy of 12,000 views. How many of those viewers watched Fox and then went on YT looking for fact checking? Probably almost all of them are like me, having never opted to turn on Fox News.
That's why they do it; because they still accomplished what they set out to.

I agree with nearly everything you said, except one bit. It doesn't really need to take 10 minutes to refute O'Riley's edit. LiberalViewer just goes into a lot of detail (which I like), but making the essential point could take less then a minute.
Essentially the full quote has Godwin Liu saying "It will take something to make this right, will it be (long list of possibilities, among them reparations). He's asking the listener to consider the question, not suggesting a course of action. The only assertion he's making is that it's going to require us to give up "something".

Someone should squeeze a "liberalviewer" tag in there.

>> ^handmethekeysyou:

^ Because as easy as it is to fact check, it's even easier NOT to fact check, which is the route that 99% of viewers will take.
Also, when someone does fact check and posts a video, it takes him 10 minutes to sort it out, which is probably longer than the actual clip he's discussing was.
This video has just shy of 12,000 views. How many of those viewers watched Fox and then went on YT looking for fact checking? Probably almost all of them are like me, having never opted to turn on Fox News.
That's why they do it; because they still accomplished what they set out to.


I agree with nearly everything you said, except one bit. It doesn't really need to take 10 minutes to refute O'Riley's edit. LiberalViewer just goes into a lot of detail (which I like), but making the essential point could take less then a minute.

Essentially the full quote has Godwin Liu saying "It will take something to make this right, will it be (long list of possibilities, among them reparations). He's asking the listener to consider the question, not suggesting a course of action. The only assertion he's making is that it's going to require us to give up "something".