But then Perry's campaign responded the same day this was released:

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/ron-paul-ca-1987-reagan-has-no-credibility

Curiously, given all the Wall Street scandals later in the year, Building 7 housed the SEC files related to numerous Wall Street investigations, as well as other federal investigative files. All the files for approximately 3,000 to 4,000 SEC cases were destroyed. Some were backed up in other places, but many were not, especially those classified as confidential

just build some nice underground offices to keep your god damn "confidential stuff" out of sight.
while I get the mentality behind of "no photos" but the level of frustration one has to go to take a picture in the city is just unacceptable.

All this feels like the fallout you see at the end of some action movie where all the politicians and coppers get their collars felt. Well no politicians yet but you know there's an LA Confidential-style web of links going on.

I may or may not be a cardiologist, but I am not at liberty to say because of "doctor/patient confidentiality."

http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/03/17/funny-pictures-cheezburger-confidential-serious-cat/

>> ^NordlichReiter:
That's all fine so long as they do not break the law in the process. Justice is blind and blind for a reason.


While most of the staff said "everything here is confidential" ( which is a lie in this case), one person said to, at some future point, lie on a form. Then they ALL reported it to the FBI as soon as the guy left. Given the fact of the reporting, it's pretty hard to argue that even the fired staff person was actually attempting to conspire to break the law.

Sure she said something poorly, in order to protect the fictitious girls, but she did the functional right thing, give the guy reason to come back. It's pretty clear that PP has a legal, and moral policy to assist the FBI in these cases by building false relationships with people claiming to be involved in human trafficking, but one woman got fired(not charged with a crime, just fired) for lying the wrong way, which I think is absurd.

>> ^Stingray:

Umm... if this is real, then doesn't this violate some doctor/patient confidentiality thing?


I assume it was filmed by family, or any other number of more likely possibilities.

>> ^Stingray:

Umm... if this is real, then doesn't this violate some doctor/patient confidentiality thing?


According to the youtube description, it was uploaded by the patient. I wonder what drugs they used besides nitrous. I want to drive a race car too.

Umm... if this is real, then doesn't this violate some doctor/patient confidentiality thing?

I simply asked a straightforward question. It is a fact that the US invaded and continued the Vietnam War under false pretenses. And facts are darned things.

I'm amazed you're so eager to call someone who leaks confidential documents but apparently are willing to fully brush off a government lying to it's people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

You know what annoys me the most about what you say is you just don't have any consistent beliefs. Your only consistency seems to be that you always just happen to agree with Republican rhetoric.

If you were really concerned about Vietnamese deaths, you would have realised that a communist regime would have been a far better outcome, spared countless lives and would have resulted in a conversion to capitalism gradually just like Vietnam is doing now.

And hey, I bet you opposed intervention in Kosovo when Clinton was in office, right? Quite ironic if so, right?

And what about intervening in Rwanda and right now in Darfur? Against that too I'm guessing?

>> ^quantumushroom:

Your loaded question was actually the most civil response.
Wouldn't release 'em. Why be a traitor when the Pentagon Papers had zero effect on the Democrat-run Vietnam War?
False pretenses? You mean, communists didn't murder 2 million Vietnamese?
At least Ellsberg was ready to accept his fate.

@ quantumushroom

If you had gained access to the Pentagon Papers, would you have made them available or kept hidden that the US invaded Vietnam under false pretenses?

A ridiculous story, all TSA agents are well trained highly paid professionals who can be fully counted on to uphold the rules of confidentiality at all times. That's why I e-mail the TSA pictures of my genitals every day.

>> ^bcglorf:

^ or perhaps, stupid lady is stupid.
Scientology gets to be treated like other religions when it starts to act like one.
As long as it continues to refuse to discuss it's beliefs publicly, it deserves no protection at all.
As long as it actively refuses to allow anyone to see their 'secret documents' without paying vast sums of money first, it deserves no protection at all.
As long as it's deepest foundational beliefs still include Hubbard's Xenu alien origin of life fantasy, it deserves ridicule.
As long as it's practices continue to include things like "Fair Game", it deserves to be fought.
Fair Game, is a declaration that an opponent of scientology is 'fair game' for any and all manner of attacks and attempts to destroy their character as are needed to destroy them and their credibility. Vicky Aznaran, a formerly very high level scientologist described the effects/actions of that policy:
Because of my position and the reports which regularly crossed my desk, I know that during my entire presidency of RTC "fair game" actions against enemies were daily routine. Apart from the legal tactics described below, the "fair game" activities included break-ins, libel, upsetting the companies of the enemy, espionage, harassment, misuse of confidential communications in the folders of community members and so forth.


How is that not like "real" religions? Catholic excommunication? Execution for apostates from Islam? Calling Scientology "stupid" then going to church is ridiculous. Scientology is a frickin case study on how a bullshit idea can become a worldwide cult. The only difference between it and "real" religions is 10 or 15 centuries.

^ or perhaps, stupid lady is stupid.

Scientology gets to be treated like other religions when it starts to act like one.

As long as it continues to refuse to discuss it's beliefs publicly, it deserves no protection at all.

As long as it actively refuses to allow anyone to see their 'secret documents' without paying vast sums of money first, it deserves no protection at all.

As long as it's deepest foundational beliefs still include Hubbard's Xenu alien origin of life fantasy, it deserves ridicule.

As long as it's practices continue to include things like "Fair Game", it deserves to be fought.

Fair Game, is a declaration that an opponent of scientology is 'fair game' for any and all manner of attacks and attempts to destroy their character as are needed to destroy them and their credibility. Vicky Aznaran, a formerly very high level scientologist described the effects/actions of that policy:

Because of my position and the reports which regularly crossed my desk, I know that during my entire presidency of RTC "fair game" actions against enemies were daily routine. Apart from the legal tactics described below, the "fair game" activities included break-ins, libel, upsetting the companies of the enemy, espionage, harassment, misuse of confidential communications in the folders of community members and so forth.

Watch Art School Confidential for the frustration some artists feel about this.