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>> ^Kreegath:

Either I've missed all those people who've explicity said that you need to drink 8 glasses of water a day, or this man argues against something that virtually no professional claims is a necessity for good health.


You've just missed them. Google "eight glasses of water" and you'll see what I mean.

You make a good point Kreegath, but I don't think he was talking about "need" so much as "recommended". Why is a certain amount of water recommended? There seems to be no literature to back it up. For a healthy person, your thirst is a perfectly valid indicator of how much you need.

On the other hand, mild dehydration can lead to minor problems like fatigue, irritability, and insomnia. For some people, they don't notice their thirst until they are already experiencing these symptoms, and they never thought to relate it to dehydration. So it's a good idea to simply plan certain times throughout the day to drink a glass or two.

But beyond what he said about active people, conventional wisdom among fitness professionals is that you should drink water frequently when you are trying to improve your fitness level. They claim (and I have no idea if this is backed up by any studies) that by the time you get thirsty, your body has already shut down the "recovery" mode that is needed for athletic improvement. So it's important for people losing weight or building muscle to stay ahead of your thirst.

So even though it isn't proven scientifically, there is no reason you shouldn't be drinking plenty of water. You might even see real improvements from paying attention to you hydration level. And that is going to be a different amount for every person.

>> ^Kreegath:

This looks just like a computer game I played quite a bit in the 90's. You were a fish or seal, and you could extend yourself to reach stuff high up. Can't remember much more, but the graphics were very similar and the music was chipper and upbeat just like here!


You are probably thinking of James Pond another great platformer...

Moving this video to Kreegath's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

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Kreegath, sometimes you can find reviewers who have a similar taste to your own and use them as a guide.
I really wish that IMDb had a feature where it keeps record of my votes and compares it to other peoples votes, and then gives an extra rating based on what people like me rate the movie.

It's usually termed "involuntary <insert charge>". That covers when something you did incorrectly causes harm to somebody but was not intentional. If he had a strong involuntary manslaughter case, he'd probably have taken that. I can't see him doing more than 10. Given his past, though, it'd be a hard sell.>> ^Kreegath:
He did do something wrong, though. According to himself he dropped his child, which led to the child receiving injuries so bad that it later on died from them. I don't know the American terms for that kind of crime, but where I'm from you can be liable for indirect murder if, for instance, you drive and crash your car and survive while the other passengers are killed.
When a baby is involved it's even worse, since you're supposed to save the child from harm, not just avoid causing it yourself. It's that adolescent innocence and helplessness combined with his particular role as guardian which makes the situation worse. That he didn't mean for any of that to happen is of course mitigating compared to if he had premeditated the act, but it doesn't change the fact that his actions directly caused the incident.
Also, we don't know if his story is the truth and the court and jury's is wrong. Maybe I'm not cynical in that way, but do you think they made up evidence to give him a much harsher sentence? They do say in the video that there was evidence of physical abuse, which is what the guy had been sentenced for in the past, twice.
However, getting raped is not part of the prison sentence and is a practice that seems to be easily preventable. It probably boils down to the perception of prisoners as sub-human, as worth less and not having the same rights as the rest of us. To change that perception and to break up the gang culture which seems to run rampant at the moment would solve alot of problems I think, but sadly it's much easier said than done. Stuff like this goes on all over the world.

>> ^Kreegath:
I'm not saying the punishment wasn't too severe, but what I am saying is that we seem to be working under the assumption that the man is completely innocent. Now, I agree with you that the actual sentence he got was inhumane. However, it sounded to me like you were saying that because the system of punishment is needlessly severe, he must somehow be exempt from the law. That's what I reacted to.
You can be held responsible for reckless behaviour and child endangerment, and while I'm not claiming he did wantonly endanger his child, I'm saying that it apparently appeared to the court that he did. That's why I don't feel comfortable to arbitrarily side with him because the punishment turned out to be disproportional, when there's still quite a case built up against him. And let's not forget that it's still quite possible that the man did in fact commit a crime.


There was no court, only the pressure of the DA saying confess or get the chair. I understand and respect your sentiment, but many people confess to things they didn't do because of the fear instigated in them by the DA during plea bargaining time. When faced with a bar-b-Q in your honor, you can be convinced to do things that, to a rational person, seem foolish.

>> ^Kreegath:
He did do something wrong, though. According to himself he dropped his child, which led to the child receiving injuries so bad that it later on died from them. I don't know the American terms for that kind of crime, but where I'm from you can be liable for indirect murder if, for instance, you drive and crash your car and survive while the other passengers are killed.

The consequences were extraordinarily severe, absolutely, but I can't believe anyone with a sliver of humanity would expect someone to pay for their mistake by being imprisoned. That's just terrible. I don't know that this case was a mistake, but accidents do happen. It's not quite like leaving a loaded gun in a crib.

>> ^Kreegath:
He did do something wrong, though. According to himself he dropped his child, which led to the child receiving injuries so bad that it later on died from them. I don't know the American terms for that kind of crime, but where I'm from you can be liable for indirect murder if, for instance, you drive and crash your car and survive while the other passengers are killed.

Shit happens, doesn't mean somebody has to pay.

Obviously I don't know the specifics either. But, in my book, and I'm quite confident in the eyes of the law: an accident is an accident. For example, woman drops baby at airport from second story over railing, baby dies.
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20091123/fatal_pearson_091123/20091123/?hub=TorontoNewHome

Terrible tragedy. However, they determined that it was not intentional and that the railing was not a safety hazard. Put plainly: sometimes bad stuff happens and that sucks; nobody necessarily should go to jail because of it.

>> ^Kreegath:
He did do something wrong, though. According to himself he dropped his child, which led to the child receiving injuries so bad that it later on died from them. I don't know the American terms for that kind of crime, but where I'm from you can be liable for indirect murder if, for instance, you drive and crash your car and survive while the other passengers are killed.
When a baby is involved it's even worse, since you're supposed to save the child from harm, not just avoid causing it yourself. It's that adolescent innocence and helplessness combined with his particular role as guardian which makes the situation worse. That he didn't mean for any of that to happen is of course mitigating compared to if he had premeditated the act, but it doesn't change the fact that his actions directly caused the incident.
Also, we don't know if his story is the truth and the court and jury's is wrong. Maybe I'm not cynical in that way, but do you think they made up evidence to give him a much harsher sentence? They do say in the video that there was evidence of physical abuse, which is what the guy had been sentenced for in the past, twice.
However, getting raped is not part of the prison sentence and is a practice that seems to be easily preventable. It probably boils down to the perception of prisoners as sub-human, as worth less and not having the same rights as the rest of us. To change that perception and to break up the gang culture which seems to run rampant at the moment would solve alot of problems I think, but sadly it's much easier said than done. Stuff like this goes on all over the world.


A plea means there was not trail or jury, only a sentence most likely determined by a judge and mandatory sentencing rules because it was his third felony. In this case, even if the death was completely an accident, the fact it was his third felon makes that point moot on sentencing.

Mandatory sentencing is a mockery to justice and a result of the futile drug war here in the US. Accidental death should never carry a life sentence or be a capital offense.

I tried, but for some reason, though it had been deadened by eric way back, it did not offer me the option to "fix video embed code"...I pronounced it dead again-it may be a glitch-I could either return to it in a couple days and see if the option re-appears, or, you could simply forward the thing to dag or rommel(lucky760), they'll do it pretty quick for ya....sorry man, i tried-

ahem...I would like to pimp this one though...
http://www.videosift.com/video/D-E-B-T-M-E-R-I-C-A

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Hey there!

I was wondering if you could fix the dead link in this sift?:
http://www.videosift.com/video/You-see-Santa-Claus-tonight-you-better-run-for-your-life-boy

I've found an almost exact copy of the original here:

Invocations (promote) cannot be called by Kreegath because Kreegath is not privileged - sorry.