@gwiz665 My point isn't that porn is bad and people who view it should feel bad about it. I really do have no issue with respectful porn in moderation. My issue is that if you do a search for porn these days, or go to youporn or anything like that, then 90% of the top stuff is just so derogatory towards women. Women gagging on dicks to the point of almost throwing up, women having their mouths pulled open, women drinking cum from glasses, bukakke, being held down and viscously rammed... this seems to be the norm now. The norm seems to be to treat women as objects. And damn those women better have big fake tits, a bald vagina, and be fine with ass to mouth.

My issue is that the porn is 'just there' now, and for single people, it'll get used a lot, and it DOES start shaping their tastes and expectations in regards to sex. The fact that sites like this even have a need to exist, shows that porn is shaping people's attitudes towards sex and women far more than it should be.

My wife and I do actually still occasionally watch porn together, carefully selected stuff that is not degrading, but just shows couples seemingly actually enjoying sex together. And as an occasional thing, it's great.

Trying to teach kids that porn is just movies and not real is just the same as movies really. Until their old enough to really process the difference between reality and make believe, until they get those critical thinking abilities, it doesn't matter how much you tell them that something isn't real. If they see it, it will affect them. So yes, I will definitely be teaching them about how the stuff in porn should never be looked on as a way to treat women (or be treated for my daughter), but I don't want them even seeing it until they're much older and can actually process it properly anyway.

Over sexualisation of our kids is a huge problem now. 3 year old girls being given high heel shoes for birthdays (as our daughter was, and we've promptly put them deep in the dress up basket), having 'role models' like Katy 'spit' Perry informing their self view. It's shit, and is not letting kids just be kids. And too many parents we see just go along with it. Let their 3 year olds dance and sing along to music videos showing women being treated as sex objects, and little more.

What this talk shows is that there is a physical effect of watching porn as much as people do now. You can put it down to weak will power, but when it's there at a click, whenever you want it, it's a problem. And it really is changing how people have sex. I've watched numerous talks where porn tropes like cumming on the woman's face, or ass to mouth, or any number of those things that only really make sense in the world of porn, are becoming things which men and women think are expected of them, or are the 'normal' way to have sex. That's a problem, because it's taking the focus away from two people getting hugely turned on and having great sex and being more like sex that looks good when being watched by someone else.

Thanks for voicing my exact sentiments and sharing some of your experiences.

I know concerned parents such as ourselves are probably more likely to have well-adjusted kids, but I still wish there could be some way to really shield their brains from being deformed by all the poison that surrounds them.

In reply to this comment by spoco2:
>> ^lucky760:
I worry often and a lot about how I can possibly keep my sons from being perverted by this society.


Ditto. I think back to me growing up and the sort of soft introduction to adult material. First you'd see topless women in National Geographics, then maybe some 'lad's mags' in the store, nothing naked, just bikini stuff... then you might get hold of a Playboy and see naked women. And back then they were pretty much natural women too (sure, not 'average', but at least not silicon and botox plumped versions).

Then you might get to see some actual porn mags at your 'rough' friend's place...

These days: "Go on web, look up sex in google image search and get inundated with hard, filthy sex"

Yeah, quite concerned. Doing our best to shield our kids from it as much as possible. Plenty of talk about what sex is (we have 3 boys and a girl all under 9), and that side of things (my wife is a midwife, so it kind of comes up a lot), but shielding as much as possible from not just sex on the internet, but also what passes for mainstream music videos these days (I mean, fucking Katy Perry... FUCK).

I'm with you lucky. I have no problem with sex... no problem with masturbation, no problem with porn in and of itself (just what 90% of it has become)... but how engrained it's become and how central and how much it's pushing into the lives of younger and younger kids.

Yeah, it's not good :

>> ^lucky760:
I worry often and a lot about how I can possibly keep my sons from being perverted by this society.


Ditto. I think back to me growing up and the sort of soft introduction to adult material. First you'd see topless women in National Geographics, then maybe some 'lad's mags' in the store, nothing naked, just bikini stuff... then you might get hold of a Playboy and see naked women. And back then they were pretty much natural women too (sure, not 'average', but at least not silicon and botox plumped versions).

Then you might get to see some actual porn mags at your 'rough' friend's place...

These days: "Go on web, look up sex in google image search and get inundated with hard, filthy sex"

Yeah, quite concerned. Doing our best to shield our kids from it as much as possible. Plenty of talk about what sex is (we have 3 boys and a girl all under 9), and that side of things (my wife is a midwife, so it kind of comes up a lot), but shielding as much as possible from not just sex on the internet, but also what passes for mainstream music videos these days (I mean, fucking Katy Perry... FUCK).

I'm with you lucky. I have no problem with sex... no problem with masturbation, no problem with porn in and of itself (just what 90% of it has become)... but how engrained it's become and how central and how much it's pushing into the lives of younger and younger kids.

Yeah, it's not good

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Katy seems like a fidgeter, that comes from one that is also


Cocaine!

does anybody else wish that Cheryl and Katy had a little pash at 1:30? or is it just me?

Katy seems like a fidgeter, that comes from one that is also

In reply to this comment by marinara:
when i open the thumbnail it shows "omg it's loki" kind of a spoiler

That does kind of ruin it. LOL. Thank you for telling me.

>> ^rottenseed:

That girl...I don't know, there's something about her. I know they try to "nerd" her up, or maybe it's because of that, but I'd like to get to know her in a biblical sense.
edit: Katie Willert is her name.


Without glasses:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4072717312/nm4263286

That girl...I don't know, there's something about her. I know they try to "nerd" her up, or maybe it's because of that, but I'd like to get to know her in a biblical sense.

edit: Katie Willert is her name.

Maybe it's an out-of-circulation moment, but were those Katy-Z's jiggly hocks there in the opening few ticks?

>> ^messenger:

Wouldn't this have been easier if the lengths of the towropes had been staggered so they'd all have more room?


and without katy perry?

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*promote

I thought you might appreciate this. This artist and poet keeps getting better. Anyway here's her last creation....

Siren Song from Katie Armstrong on Vimeo.

Fascinating stuff. rap, hip hop, and any of those sorts of 'music' are just laden with so much shit that I don't like finding my kids watching music videos on a weekend morning because it's filling their heads with such fucked up attitudes towards men and women it's just not funny.

Actually I take it back, it's not just rap and hip hop, it's about 70% of popular music is just filled with such rubbish. Katy Perry with her cream shooting breasts (although I guess that has Snoop Dog, so there's the 'rap' link), women dressed in as revealing as possible outfits, singing about buying all the latest shit, having sex with as many people as possible, it's all just fucked.

And yeah, isn't it fucking noble of him to suddenly turn around and decide that people shouldn't be calling his daughter a bitch and a 'ho' after he's been doing it for years.

If he does start making amends by giving money to groups, doing talks to youth as to why it was wrong of him and is wrong of others, then that can make a difference. Someone who they respect letting them know why it's not ok to call women a bitch or a ho, or treat them as sex objects... then that might make a difference. And that would be good