I disagree. Police are not supposed to be our masters, we are not supposed to bow and scrape before them in the hopes we don't get sent to the stocks (or worse). Police are simply supposed to enforce the laws that we, as a society, have decided that we all should follow.

The problem is, we have allowed the police to become more than that through our own lack of care and mismanagement. A policeman should have to undergo more rigorous training and background checks, mental and physical, than any other service we provide to ourselves. Instead we pay them about the same as teachers and we let bullies into the system. We also allow people with significant evidence that they should never have positions of authority due to mental issues to become police. We do not rigorously punish the bad cops, nor prevent them from seeking work elsewhere, leading to the same type of thing that led to catholic molesters being shuffled about to molest again.

As far as police fearing others, can we finally say that the number of police fatalities are far less than the the ones inflicted by police? Yes, we have many guns in the USA, but the few times I recall of a police person being killed by one seem to revolve around them experiencing a retaliation style attack when you would least expect it (and not on a call), or when they are alone and on a remote call location. Yet most of these controversial police shootings of suspects seem to happen when they are in a group of officers with weapons drawn, which I would consider far less of a jumpy situation than being alone on a highway. If I am an officer, with multiple other officers nearby, I have weapons on the suspect (taser or otherwise), why am I more worried than if I am alone with a suspect? It simply doesn't make sense.

Finally, referring back to your resisting comment, have we not seen lately that you can still be shot while doing absolutely no resisting? One man was laying on the ground, hands in the air, while telling a mentally ill patient of his not to do anything that would get him shot, and the man on the ground got shot. Here in Austin we had a mentally ill man running naked in the street and he was shot and killed versus being tasered or taken down. The use of force, and the extremity of it, have not been shown to be merited. So if you can be shot and killed for not resisting, or simply not understanding the commands in the short time you are given to do so, what can we do? Should we carry a pair of handcuffs and a taser so we can pre-apply these items and give the cops less to fear?

How is it not surprising that the problem sees no problem?

You say : "I don't see people getting beat up, or shot, or assaulted, or arrested for no reason"
So, those that were "beat up, or shot, or assaulted, or arrested", were for a good reason, right?

Ever consider that those reasons are often made up?
Ever consider that the stories you heard around the water cooler were simply B.S., and it was in fact the police simply preying on innocent people?



Just what exactly does LE do for me, or anyone?

Do police have super powers and spidey senses?
Will they magically teleport to someone getting raped, and prevent it?
Will they magically teleport to someone getting run over, and prevent it?
Will they magically teleport to someone getting beaten, and prevent it?
Will they magically teleport to someone getting robbed, and prevent it?
The answer is : no.

Police can't actually /help/ anyone.
They can only show up after the fact, and ask you what happened, and if you know who did it.
If you don't know who it was, tough shit. Sucks to be you.
Unlike on TV, there is no in-depth investigation. The most they do is tell you to call them if you remember something else. (This is speaking from experience)

What if you're not around to even tell them anything? Almost every murder committed by an unrelated stranger without witnesses or video goes unsolved.
Why? Because all police know how to do is ask friends/family where they were, and if everyone has an excuse, police got nothing.

At least when a normal person [that you can identify] harms you, you /can/ call the police, and maybe, just maybe, if they feel like it, they will round them up after the fact.

(They often don't. We've had people dumping trash on our land : police didn't respond. We've had people hunting [strangers shooting guns] on our property : police didn't respond. Brought evidence of a fraud to the police station, with account numbers, names, addresses : we won't investigate. The only time they ever came was to talk with my mother after she reported her credit card number was being used by a stranger - LOL, of all the things, they bother coming for /that/?)

But if the police harm you, you've got nowhere to turn to - but them. And they care more about each other, than some stranger.

Heck, I've been tailgated by a cop, on a multi-lane road, so close his headlights weren't even visible over my trunk. He could have gone around me any time. After miles, when I finally sped up - BAM. Ticket.

I've pulled up to a roadblock by my house, and asked if I could go by. The guy was so incensed that he detained me for hours, and told me I was threatening his life, reckless driving, and not wearing a seatbelt.

I've been threatened by a cop - because I interrupted her chat with her girlfriend to ask for directions around a road they were closing off.

I've been pulled over with gun drawn, for trivial speeding (well below reckless).

Seriously people, every time you get pulled over, you are at risk of getting shot, because someone is trained to be suspicious and paranoid, and they saw something shiny.

Just look at how they behave. Cop shoots his daughter in his own garage, because he thought she was a burglar.
What, too much to ask just to look at the person to see if they're even a burglar? Shoot first ask questions later.

Every year there are multiple cases of police raiding a house and shooting people - only to find out it was the wrong house. What, too much trouble to be a decent human being and just knock first, and ask for whoever they need to come out?

Oh, but that might put them at a greater risk. And we all know that police take MINIMAL risks themselves, and instead risk the lives of the citizens. (Why not approach with gun drawn? At least you're ready to shoot the suspect. And if you accidentally shoot the suspect, oh well, just say they 'attacked'. No biggie. Why take the risk.)
The biggest risk they take, is the one they dream up for when they want to take credit for being the heroes they never were.

Look at the friggin VT shooting. Swarms of cops surrounding a building. Man inside, could be killing more people by the moment... and the cops just camp out and wait for him to kill himself.
Worst part, is if it were my family inside, and I tried to go in and stop the shooter, the police would just shoot me for trying to enter.

(And no, police don't deserve heroic praise. They deserve the _pay_check_ they signed up for. If that's not enough, they should take life more seriously and really think about what it is they're getting into, before they do it. Take responsibility, like an adult should.)

The police are a liability. They're armed. They're selfish. They're paranoid and suspicious. They're jumpy.
IMO, the best thing to do is keep away from them, don't look at them, don't talk to them. Stay away, and stay safe.

Oh yeah, and the police are also immune form the constitution's equal protection clause. "Because interpretation".

Look at the numbers. You are less likely to be arrested or go to jail in NORTH KOREA, than here in the U.S. of A. By a factor of 4 last I checked.
What the heck is going on here?

1 in 18 men is either in jail, on parole, or somewhere in the process of going to jail.
Most of the countries in Europe have smaller populations, than the people that we have 'in the system'. And most of the people we have 'in the system', never even harmed another person. They're just arrested for 'behavior crimes' - simply doing things that are not allowed. This is madness. The system is mad, the police are mad.

You don't end up with videos of a gang of police acting like gangsters, if it's a matter of 'a few bad apples'. They all have to be in the same frame of mind.
If they weren't all of the same frame of mind, one would do something bad, and the others would say "whoa there man, you're out of line".
But instead, they all do it. Because there are no 'bad apples'.
There is 'bad training', and 'bad culture', and it permeates the profession.

And when I say bad, I don't mean that "they are trained to be thugs".
I mean that the police don't see suspects as 'citizens (members of the state) that the police are on the side of'.
Whoever crosses their path is dehumanized. Some kind of "other", that the police need to protect society from. Not realizing that those people /are/ society, and /they/ need protection.
The kind of behavior that I see in these kinds of videos, it's simply treason. Betrayal of the state.

If the laws of this country were written to provide restitution to victims - and there were no laws to simply tell people how to live, and if the police spent their time providing restitution to victims, then I would have nothing but the greatest appreciation for the police.
As it stands, there's very little nobility around this profession. Majority of the job is simply picking on people - sometimes because they did harm, but usually because they mind their own business in an unapproved of way, or for kicks.

-scheherazade

Here are more jumpy vids that are pretty awesome.

See siftbots related vids below

Wait, the jumpy doggy wasn't a fail.

Would angry daddy count as failures?

Nice, but viewing a design is not the same as creating and modifying a design. The jumpiness looked like it would really mess with any attempt to actually alter the properties of the model. "oops, no, I meant 1mm thicker - damnit - nngh - ok, that looks about right, doesn't it?"

I'll wager none of them will make that mistake again in a hurry. I walked out in front of a car on my 16th birthday. Entirely my fault and I was lucky to escape with just bruises. 9 Years later I am still jumpy as fuck whenever I'm crossing, and I kinda think thats how it should be. You spend your life around cars and you forget that they are massive projectiles and you are in their path. Close calls like these make good reminders - good vaccines.

Awesome.

Judging from the email adress I assume this dog was trained by Omar von Müller, who also trained the Jack Russel Terrier "Uggie" for the movie The Artist.

Another clip of Jumpy (the dog from this clip) here

More on Omar von Müller here

Edit: here is his YT Channel

Oh and *skillful

>> ^Yogi:

OH honey oh sweetheart, your tattoos are tacky and you look like a raccoon.


..Don't really dig the way she handles that skeeter either, would make me kinna nervous-too jumpy!

Wonder if they would have stomped the cat if they got close enough....both pretty jumpy.

Kinda confusing and jumpy but cool nonetheless. I think she's talking about deconstruction of material and reconstructing the meanings, which is a popular method.

>> ^Chaucer:

my cat did this once... got caught in the handle... he pissed all over the place because he was so frightened. Which taught me to cut the handles on any bags I leave laying around.


Lol, I'm not the only one then. One of my cats did the same thing and he also pissed all over the place. He's always been sound jumpy to begin with.

I see two real spiders (behind the seat and on the wall) and one fake one (quick jumpy CG spider)

@dannym3141

Yes, it would be nice for people to have common sense, and when I say "people", that's civvies and cops alike. The guy in the other vid shows no respect for authority, has baggy clothes that could conceal any number of weapons, and repeatedly disobeys the order of the man holding the gun. That kind of irrational behaviour would trigger all my alarms if I were a cop. My guess is that person either has some sort of mental disorder or was just really stupid.

As for the cop in this video, that's probably the last time he's this easygoing on a routine pullover. Heck, maybe the cop in the vid I linked above had a similar experience, thus his jumpiness, who knows.

For me this guy is incredibly hard to understand and communicates in such jumpy way that it makes it very hard to follow what he is saying.

Evan though what he is saying is a very simple concept.


on-top of that its strange how people that seek closure end up going for conservative politics when conservatives provide no more or less closure than liberals (in the current political system).


I think also in this area of science there are so many verables and our understanding of the mind/tools to test the mind are so pore its nearly imposable to get meaningful scientific data in terms of finding causal links.

The reason many people aren't effected by caffeine is the amount they have. An average person can have 200-400mg of caffeine, 2-4 cups of coffee and feel no effects. This is because it is a naturally occurring stimulant, meaning our bodies process it very easily. It may have an effect of a slight raising of your blood pressure or heart rate, but it will return to normal very quickly and most times will go unnoticed. It "wakes you up" in the morning because of that slight increase in your body's metabolism. This speeds up the internal process our bodies go through from a prolonged sleep stage to an awake stage.

It's quite common for someone to feel no effect from caffeine and even the sleepiness is the body recovering from the slight "boost" much like being tired after running or most any activity. The times people feel jumpy is from an overload of caffeine. Caffeine replaces our body's self made hormones which get us going. Prolonged exposure to caffeine is why people get that big downer. You stop caffeine and your body doesn't know any better so it doesn't make anything and bam, no energy. Just try to avoid levels over 600mg of caffeine and you should be fine!