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Deadbeat Non-Father, forced to pay $30K in Child Support

scheherazade says...

That's absolutely true, however it's precisely why it is realistic.

They've created a massive rigid process that allows them to stay busy for eternity without getting much work done.

It's that massive rigid process that empowers them to put the man in the OP through hoops that drain his time and money, and threaten him with fines/incarceration (for not participating or for failing to pay fines) - even though the evidence is out plain as day that the guy was never involved in any of the matters at hand.

You could call what they are doing "work" and "duties". You could also call it a waste of time and money, and predatory. If you consider it work, that's fine. If you consider it a waste, then what they are doing is 'just forcing it here'.

In the end, process is made by people. People choose to maintain the status quo.
Prosecutors/judge *could* just drop the charges/case/fines/whatever - but they won't. Because a chance to win an argument on some technicality is more important than the man in the OP's life - and the process requires this mess to play out.

To the 9 to 5'ers, this is just a debate team exercise. It costs them nothing.

-scheherazade.

newtboy said:

I think that in order to be working in the legal system (private lawyers excepted) and not look busy, you must be shirking your duties, because the courts (and their subsidiary systems) are insanely overburdened. There is no one who could say "I'm just forcing it here" (meaning pretending to have work to do) reasonably, that's just not a realistic assessment of the current situation in the court system.

Deadbeat Non-Father, forced to pay $30K in Child Support

scheherazade says...

I believe the problem is with the government's use of competitive judiciary : where each side debates their case, regardless of merit, and the expectation is that the 'right' argument will win simply because truth should naturally be able to present a stronger argument.

This assumption not only leads to some face-palm-worthy cases/charges, it also inevitably leads to people being convicted in situations where everyone involved knows with absolute certainty that the defender is innocent (often because quirks within the rules of the official process).

In this case, the "right" thing to do is : Apologize to the man, and refund him any costs that he's incurred so far due to this mess.

But "process" requires that the government push their argument to its absolute limit, even with zero merit, because the officially sanctioned way by which the situation is resolved is via argument in court (conveniently, the need to do this is also decided by people working in court - effectively excusing their professional existence and securing their very employment).

There is no 'admitting there was a mistake'. A mistake has to be proven in court. So even though everyone involved knows that the man is not at any fault, they will still force him to spend his time and money arguing a case, just to jump through hoops, and in the end it's _extremely_ unlikely that his personal costs will be refunded to him (lawyer fees, etc).

In the mean time, everyone on the government side is simply doing their 9-5. None of this is a burden to them, and it's in fact 'how they put food on the table'. If they aren't charging him, they're charging someone else. This is just another day at the office.

The guy getting screwed can't say 'no thanks, I'll not participate', because men with guns will show up and drag him away (police arrest for not going to court). It's effectively a predatory practice whereby the government fleeces people. Everyone involved knows it's meritless, but they simply force you to dance [else go to jail], and collect some fees in the process.

Because, really, what's at stake is not 'the truth' or 'justice'. It's simply "process". An excuse to inflate the number of court cases, to keep court spending high (to secure next year's budget - "use it or lose it" accounting), to keep collections high, and generally keep the high paid welfare cases (9/10 govt employees) employed.
TBH, for a country that supposedly "hates communism", actual communist countries haven't even managed to work it out this well. (I'm not talking fairy tale boogey man communism like you see in old propaganda. I mean the practical day to day actual workings. Vast government employment, bureaucracy, "process above all".)

-scheherazade

newtboy said:

As another aside, he wasn't forced to pay any child support!
Should be non-deadbeat non-father not forced to pay child support, but that doesn't serve the narrative.

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Law Student Prevails Over State Robot Thug

chingalera says...

@bremnet-Concealed is only the 'way-to-go (check your state's laws) unless you are able or willing to navigate the laws and duties and fine-print responsibilities once you sign-on to another hoop-toss to jump through. Most US state's existing laws let citizens arm themselves and carry legally without being on another bullshit hit-list.

SO the guys' being a dick, what of it with regard to state-sanctioned fascism, eh?? Get naked at your cousin's wedding and a bit tipsy an' let some bored neighborhood informant with a cell-phone and a tree-stump in their ass call the local pigs, and see how fast your world collides with your bank account and how many do-not-hire lists you get placed on. Preach that shit from a pulpit how about it??

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Drew Carey - 101 Big Dick Jokes

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lucky760 said:

Hey, I got robbed. Was that all 101? It seems to be cut off.

Awesome, Unique Design Makes this Lock Un-Pickable

deathcow says...

> Cutting with an angle grinder and overhang (breaking
> with a hammer, and this lock has huge overhang) are
> the greater threats.

Simple. The manufacturer could detect when the electrical continuity through the lock shackle (the hoop) and back to the body is broken, _without_ the key in the proper place. Then, detonate the bottom cylinder.

Crime Stopper has Tip for Lunch

chingalera says...

Good on him. Retired police chief bucking an out-of-control justice system.
Part of the judge's deferred judgement was for him to 'write a report about anonymous tip laws instead of spending time behind bars.' Fucking cunt with a unilateral judgement which is completely full of shit.

Know someone personally who was ordered by a judge (among other unconscionable hoop-jumping) to write a letter of apology to two police officers who were willing to perjure themselves under oath to see the person do state prison time for the crime of exercising his rights under the constitution.

At least half of all defendants in court cases in the U.S. need to stand-up against the corrupt actions of police and judges, and attorneys.

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Cops using unexpected level of force to arrest girl

chingalera says...

@artician- You are correct in your observations the reason being....currently a recent victim of two HPD officers willing to perjure themselves before a jury in order to satisfy their egos and their state mandate to fill beds in their jails (or prison, had we decided not to take a plea down to keep them from sealing our fate).
Felony obstruction for mouthing-off in the back of a cop car to a couple of complete douchebags who could not stand that we would not let them treat us like some kid a couple of jocks would have bullied in junior high.

The official statement was alleged that their lives had been threatened which when in fact we surmised in colorful detail their mommy and daddy issues, their obvious history of abuse and or neglect, questioning their sexuality and manhood simultaneously, all while we voluntarily accompanied them into said car in cuffs from a girl's apartment after we gave them the benefit of the doubt and rendered I.D. to them and TOLD them we had a warrant for an unpaid traffic ticket.

Was in the home of a friend when her ADT system (installed a day earlier) sent a false alarm-They had tried to call her but she was passed-out with an I.V. in her arm (vitamin treatment) bed-ridden with a torn ligament. Cops came to the door, was just waking-up and (stupidly) let them in and addressed their incivility when they after determining that the alarm call was false, began to ask me what my "problem" was-Asked them why they had to act like a couple of uncivil douchebags in someone's home and asked politely if the one cop, would remove his dark sunglasses and that they were making me nervous.

This is Texas BTW, land of the most redneck fucks to be found anywhere in the planet of police.

Meet an an idiot who poked the rabid dogs with a stick and found soon that we had over-stepped our "freedom of speech."

Yeah, fucking pissed and for good reason. It's called a felony what they did, and with full-participation of the D.A. and the judge.

Ten years ago this would not have happened. we know because we have spoken our mind to arresting cunts before, as well as spoken like a gentleman to those treating us with the same consideration who represented the local constabulary.

All cops are or will be felons during the course for their tenure as a "peace officer', in the United States.

Now we must jump though many, many hoops to fulfill probation obligations, pay money we don't have, and if I make it through, will be able to have the case sealed, so that we might work again in this state without having a felony (never before) on our permanent record.

So this is Canada?? Your time is coming as well, just look at the show-out when the damn G-20 came to Canada a few years back.

They're gearing-up for chaos folks-
(collective object-pronoun used to avoid incrimination) If you are interested, we'll tell you why in a P.M. It's kind of hard not to be incensed while being kicked while prone.

Been bullied by cunts just like this on the sift before and those petty cowards are afraid to even show their asses here any longer.

Girl jumps through basketball hoop!

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Yogi says...

The main point is at the end. If the state can make laws forcing you to jump through hoops to exercise your choice to abort, than they should give aid the feeding and schooling of said new citizen.



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