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A Banksy triggers empathy in passers-by towards homeless man

Drachen_Jager says...

I mean it's interesting, but it's performance art and not a "homeless man". Clearly the guy is not homeless and it doesn't look to me like he even spent the night there (probably not much more than 20 minutes).

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Homeless Man Does Breathtaking Act Social Experiment

newtboy says...

As much as I want this to be real, I'm pretty sure it's fake.
I was incredibly suspicious with the way the man woke up right after the videographer left the frame, extremely suspicious with the man instantly noticing the money and his really odd over reaction about it, but what put me over the edge is the obvious microphone clipped to the man's collar that is completely ignored by the homeless man. That's why the audio is so clear.

Maybe I'm wrong, but this sure SEEMS to be another of the multitude of fake 'social experiments' that's really nothing but a terribly written and acted morality play.

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newtboy says...

Sweet Zombie Jesus!
What I said was "Good on the homeless man for saving the woman. Shame on Lawdeedaw for posting snuff", (an act that in the posting itself was insulting and snide to all other users of the site)....and you've completely lost it.
YOU started with the insults, claiming I'm unable to read, unable to comprehend the rules, and only making a personal attack (none of which is true, clearly), now you're going to whine to the moderators that someone's 'backhanded bullshit insult' (do you perhaps mean your own?) requires constant moderator intervention on your behalf, and because the moderator didn't agree with your miss-interpretation of the clearly written rule you clearly broke, now you threaten to force them to 'rule' on any and every video you can find that comes anywhere close to the rule, including all those that have already been ruled on?
WTF man. Grow up.

Lawdeedaw said:

Everything with killings in it will get reviewed then @lucky760. There will be no exceptions then for shit based on cops, soldiers, etc., unless it is "lengthy educational, informative news report or documentary that encompasses a much broader narrative."

OH, AND IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE NEWS REPORTS OR DOCUMENTARY'S ARE THEMSELVES A BROAD NARRATIVE, THE FATALITY ITSELF MUST ALSO BE educational and all that crap.

And since no mention was made about insulting other sifters in snide ass manners, backhanded bullshit insults that sting far worse than dumb and crass insults, I assume it's now no hands barred? I would rather be called a dumb fuck than treated as I was...so you will be the one to make the ruling on that bud. Either we can all be insulting, snide assholes, or someone else gets told to be civil...

Homeless Hero Sacrifies

enoch says...

@newtboy
@Lawdeedaw

you two are adorable.like an old couple that should have divorced decades ago but were unwilling to share the pet dog.

the arguments i see playing out here are one of distinctions,but what are we basing those distinction on?
well,Lawdeedaw has addressed that point and i happen to agree with him.

if you find an abuse of power cop video,where someone is shot or beaten to death acceptable.then you must also find this video acceptable,because they are both using the exact same metric.

that being said,i feel newtboy brings up a good point:context,meaning and ultimately the REASON for posting a video where someone dies.

i think i understand lawdeedaws intent on posting.to reveal the cultural hypocrisy we have in regards to homeless people.how they are invisible,disregarded and disenfranchised.that even though we cringe at having to see homeless people,nevermind interact with them.they are still human and can have just as much courage and moral integrity as any one of us,even though they are discarded and invisible.even though there is much hand-wringing and empty-worded rhetoric,disguised as compassion,making us have the feel-goods while we do nothing.

they are human and this mans humanity and sacrifice can be beautiful to behold.

but where is the context?
take away lawdeedaws poetic understanding...what is happening here,besides a man getting shot and the gunman riddled with bullets?

so newtboy brings up a good point.
so allow me to add some much needed context:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/homeless-man-saving-hostage-victim_55f06cdbe4b093be51bd1940

Homeless Hero Sacrifies

Lawdeedaw says...

So you're admitting the police videos showing murder and senseless life taking--which almost all the police videos are hardly "educational, informative news report or documentary that," you're admitting they should be removed? Again, I am about fairness and if this is true, lets do it. Homeless man beaten to death? How is that more educational than this? It was left. And you didn't address the content of what I wrote about other videos, a plethora of others, that have been left? Address those "snuff" videos and either demand they come down or admit your idea of snuff isn't all that matters.

newtboy said:

I believe I do know what I'm talking about, unlike some.

The presence of human fatality is acceptable and not considered "snuff" if presented as a limited, incidental portion of a lengthy educational, informative news report or documentary that encompasses a much broader narrative. Our definition of "snuff" does include but is not exclusive to any short clip in which a human fatality occurs whether or not any victims are actually visible on camera.

Many 'newsworthy' videos have been removed because they were far less graphic snuff than this, even though they also were newsworthy and informative (unlike this video). This was nothing more than a graphic murder in full view with a second violent killing alongside it, plain and simple, and there's no more egregious, clear, or more clearly forbidden type of snuff than a short clip of nothing more than blatant violent multiple murder in full view and color. It was not incidental to the video, it WAS the entirety of the video, and there was no narrative or educational portion at all.

@dag, a ruling please.

Homeless Hero Sacrifies

newtboy says...

I'm sorry, but by what insane definition or theory do you NOT consider this *snuff?!? It is the literal definition of the word, and is in fact double snuff as it seems both the 'hero' and the kidnapper are killed. Just because you feel the one death was 'heroic', and the other totally justified, does not make it any less a snuff film.
Good on the homeless man for saving the woman.
Bad on @Lawdeedaw for posting snuff.

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Homeless Man Sees 'Do Gooder' Video For What It Is

bobknight33 says...

Good one, I was not thinking of that point.
I was focused on his attitude. That being said, kudos to him for not taking handouts and living his life his way, as a homeless man.

Self determination of ones destiny.

RedSky said:

You don't applaud him for not taking hand outs? I'm confused.

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