*dupeof=http://www.videosift.com/video/Christian-Fundamentalist-Pop-God-Hates-Fags

To examplify my point, heres a movie idea:

Show witch burnings, cut to bible verse used as basis for the crime, tell people about the crusades, cut to bible verse, show the thousands dead of HIV/AIDS in africa, cut to pope damning condom use, show the Westmoro baptist church and their "God Hates Fags" signs, cut to appropriate bible verse, show abortion clinic bombings, cut to bible verse, etc etc.... end the film with "stop Christianity and all its insanity."

Have I just outlined the plot for a movie claiming it is acceptable to kill all Christians?, does it encourage violence against Christians?, does it throw every single Christian in the Westmoro Baptist Church camp?

Of course not. it is a criticism of Christianity and its completely appropriate, in all the above examples, Christian doctrine was either the main cause of, or main justification for the various crimes and insanity expressed. Fitna does nothing more then my hypothetical movie.

And dont think Christians and Muslims are the only ones that has to endure films like this, look at "Expelled", it (wrongly, this time) links us Darwinists to Neo-darwinism, Communism, Nazism, Nihilism and who knows what. Perhaps it may even convince a fundie or two to go on a Darwinist killing rampage, who knows?

Fitna is no different. It links Islam to various acts of violence committed in the name of islam, it shows the verses that are used to justify these crimes, it shows powerful clerics with insanely fascist ideas, and links it to islam in general, etc. It is, like the movies described above, one-sided and rhetorical in its combination of text and images, but thats it. In no way does it group all muslims into one, in no way does it encourage violence or murder of muslims or anyone else.

Gods hates fag, God hates America, God hates Obama.

Jesus what a miserable and bitter religion that is. What happened about teaching hope and peace and being kind to your fellow man?

LOL!

>> ^budzos:
I'm an atheist and legal or not it's just DOUCHEY to post an atheistic screed next to a nativity scene. It's antagonistic, like those God Hates Fags church people protesting at funerals.
People should be free to say what they want, but legally required to try and not be a douche about it.


The atheists probably does it to bring attention to the separation of church and state principle, not to ruin the nativity scene. The point is that a sign declaring that "there is no god" has no business being put up in a state-owned building, nor has a Nativity scene any business being there. The State is supposed to be NEUTRAL towards religious and non-religious opinions

The douchebaggery is allowing nativity-scenes in the first place, not the act of protesting against them

I'm an atheist and legal or not it's just DOUCHEY to post an atheistic screed next to a nativity scene. It's antagonistic, like those God Hates Fags church people protesting at funerals.

People should be free to say what they want, but legally required to try and not be a douche about it.

you don't have to defend yourself, i'm not a judge and this isn't a trial. i was just pointing it out.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
I suppose I should have said "even if I think it is despicable".

I would argue that the majority agrees with my claim. That in itself does not make a claim true, but it's close enough.

Also, I never said I wasn't tolerant of it. It's still there, isn't it? I don't have to like it, but that I don't like it does not make me a bigot.

In reply to this comment by imstellar28:
calling another persons opinion "despicable" is the definition of bigotry. just saying.

"A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from his or her own, and bigotry is the corresponding attitude or mindset."

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
^Well, "God hates Fags" is still hanging in some places, and is permitted because of the first amendment. Even if it is despicable.

The company that owns the signs have the right to not put up anything they want, just as any store can choose not to serve you for whatever reason. It may be political persecution from the religious, but the store is not to blame in that. It's their right to not show it.

One could argue that "the market" quashes the obscure or quiet, while the loudmouths are preferred and therefore something like public signs should be handled by a public entity, ie. the government.

calling another persons opinion "despicable" is the definition of bigotry. just saying.

"A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from his or her own, and bigotry is the corresponding attitude or mindset."

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
^Well, "God hates Fags" is still hanging in some places, and is permitted because of the first amendment. Even if it is despicable.

The company that owns the signs have the right to not put up anything they want, just as any store can choose not to serve you for whatever reason. It may be political persecution from the religious, but the store is not to blame in that. It's their right to not show it.

One could argue that "the market" quashes the obscure or quiet, while the loudmouths are preferred and therefore something like public signs should be handled by a public entity, ie. the government.

^Well, "God hates Fags" is still hanging in some places, and is permitted because of the first amendment. Even if it is despicable.

The company that owns the signs have the right to not put up anything they want, just as any store can choose not to serve you for whatever reason. It may be political persecution from the religious, but the store is not to blame in that. It's their right to not show it.

One could argue that "the market" quashes the obscure or quiet, while the loudmouths are preferred and therefore something like public signs should be handled by a public entity, ie. the government.

You have to love this kind of Christian understanding. God hates fags, but Hitler loves them.

>> ^jwray:
Maybe the reason we haven't noticed any alien radio signals yet is because civilizations take billions of years to evolve and the time between the discovery of radio and nuclear annihilation is typically less than 0.00000025% of that because idiots eventually get the nuclear codes.


<irne>Maybe they're all asexual and have bi-curious relationships that are not tied to propagation of their species. Thus, god hates fags! (Brimstone, spacefrogs, killing of first brood, making the rivers flow blue, etc)</irne>

>> ^campionidelmondo:
If anyone is going to hell, it's gonna be Fred Phelps. Preaching hatred and ignorance doesn't sit well with the big guy upstairs.


You hit the nail on the head there. And please people dont lump real Christians in with this moron or any of the "God hates fags" church. Its like assuming every mexican in America jumped the border. Its rather infuriating.

stupid bastard sure knows how to quote irrelevant scripture.

yeah fred, i'm sure george is screaming up at us.

edit: you gotta love the "and god said go forth and preach my gospel to the world" with the "god hates fags" sign flying around the screen. everyone knows that jesus wanted every christian to preach hate to the world. that's why he dieded on the crossifications.

one day all the BDSM hookers and kid touching will be revealed, and what will they say then? all the tears in the world won't be enough. i hope they'll wrap themselves in god hates fags signs and burn themselves in effigy, but we all know that hypocrites are too weak in character to do something so pure and just.

It's not a big deal, having a dead guy on your side, but at least I know my political opponents of the christian fundamentalist "god hates fags and lazy poor people" variety are hypocrites.

This is why God hates fags. (I saw that on a sign.)

Wonder what Brandons parents are thinking? This is truly awful Is this was some mental extremeists want? Kids killing others kids because they did something that was not "straight" (Larry could have been bi, and the same would apply)

( I refer to the "God Hates Fags" Church )