theres only 1 reason you'd want to go to the cinema - if its some amazing film you desperately want to see before its released on bluray. Thats the ONLY reason - due to the reasons westy has listed.
however since theres maybe about 5 films actually worth watching in an entire year, you wouldnt be that desperate enough to see the rest.


i spent £660 in 2010 summer on my 47inch LCD, and £550 on a Q acoustins 5.1 sound system, £200 on an amp, and a bluray player. i sit about 2m from the screen. if you're happy to wait 2-3 months for the film to come out on bluray, like i am, you're rewarded with a stunning viewing experience. plus the fact that you're in a comfortable chair, can pause if you need to, and all the other freedoms that humans are accustomed to.

why on earth would you want to go to a cinema? they are essentially gas chambers with a screen.

(LOL at the sarcasm tickbox.......fail)

I greatly admire Feynman, but on balance he did knowingly help to develop what was at the time the most powerful, most deadly weapon in history. All you guys who dismiss this because he made some great contributions to science need to think through the ethics some more. I'm sure there were Nazi scientists who made some great contributions as well.

Germans were great physicists; I sure there were some nobel laurettes working for Hitler. Am I supposed to dismiss a hypothetical Nazi Physicist's very efficient gas chamber design because he made some otherwise great scientific contributions? I am an admirer of german engineers, yet I can't bring myself to dismiss the way they used that talent to mechanize genocide.

Feyman is no angel, or a dark angel at best.

If I believed in hell, I would believe Feynman, despite his laudable scientific contributions, would burn in it. I'm sure there are alot of Japanese non-combatants that wouldn't mind.

>> ^EmptyFriend:

should probably tag it nsfw, i think i saw some boobs in there...


Really?..... you had people dying in a gas chamber, someone pulling gold teeth out of a corpse, and a little boy's cadaver being incinerated, and you worry about breasts that showed up for half a second?

Are you republican or something?

There's a difference between reverence for a martyr by wearing a crucifix and mockery of him. Based on your explanation of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, I believe that you have a limited understanding of the doctrine of the Atonement. I agree that many people's definition of Christianity is absurd, but I am annoyed by people who don't really understand the gospel as it was taught by Jesus Christ, and yet they feel entitled to look down upon and mock believers.

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In reply to this comment by thepinky:
You're all so eager to mock Christianity that I think you failed to notice how perverse this is. I wonder what's funny about a crucifixion machine. Considering the hundreds of thousands of people that were brutally and indiscriminately murdered in that way, both in the ancient and modern world, a crucifixion machine is about as funny as gas chambers and guillotines. At least gas chambers and guillotines are quick, whereas crucifixion is prolonged torture. Yeah. Hilarious.

Crucifixion was horrible torture, true. So: how many people have you seen lately wearing mini guillotines around the necks, or praying in front of mock gas chambers? How many people do you know, on the other hand, who worship an omniscient god who sent his son/self to get brutally tortured and murdered as a scapegoat for his believers?
Despite christianity's absurdity, millions still believe in it. Sometimes the absurd can only be tackled with more absurd. It's called satire.

Guillotines are hilarious - imagine "bring your kid to work day". Good times. Gas chambers are fun if they're full of laughing gas.

Anything is funny if framed right.

>> ^thepinky:
You're all so eager to mock Christianity that I think you failed to notice how perverse this is. I wonder what's funny about a crucifixion machine. Considering the hundreds of thousands of people that were brutally and indiscriminately murdered in that way, both in the ancient and modern world, a crucifixion machine is about as funny as gas chambers and guillotines. At least gas chambers and guillotines are quick, whereas crucifixion is prolonged torture. Yeah. Hilarious.


Gas chambers and guillotines can also be funny, if you're not averse to a little black humor, and if it is done in a respectful way. If we are going to talk about negative connotation, we might consider the appropriateness of Christianity to have an infamous torture device as its main symbol.

In reply to this comment by thepinky:
You're all so eager to mock Christianity that I think you failed to notice how perverse this is. I wonder what's funny about a crucifixion machine. Considering the hundreds of thousands of people that were brutally and indiscriminately murdered in that way, both in the ancient and modern world, a crucifixion machine is about as funny as gas chambers and guillotines. At least gas chambers and guillotines are quick, whereas crucifixion is prolonged torture. Yeah. Hilarious.

Crucifixion was horrible torture, true. So: how many people have you seen lately wearing mini guillotines around the necks, or praying in front of mock gas chambers? How many people do you know, on the other hand, who worship an omniscient god who sent his son/self to get brutally tortured and murdered as a scapegoat for his believers?
Despite christianity's absurdity, millions still believe in it. Sometimes the absurd can only be tackled with more absurd. It's called satire.

You're all so eager to mock Christianity that I think you failed to notice how perverse this is. I wonder what's funny about a crucifixion machine. Considering the hundreds of thousands of people that were brutally and indiscriminately murdered in that way, both in the ancient and modern world, a crucifixion machine is about as funny as gas chambers and guillotines. At least gas chambers and guillotines are quick, whereas crucifixion is prolonged torture. Yeah. Hilarious.

ill have you know im practically a saint.

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I'm not surprised that you're a mommy now...with all that fucking it was inevitable.

...shoulda taken the load in your mouth and your tits like a good little girl. But I guess that's too conformist for you. Maybe next time you can eat a skeet-laden watermelon just for the kicks

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also on a different trip to san diego we broke into the sauna of the same fancy pants hotel iv stayed at and had sex in the sauna. it sounded like a hilarious and grand idea at the time. but it was fucking terrible. like trying to get off in a public gas chamber and then realizing you dont have an asphyxiation or exhibition fetish.

dont believe me? still think sauna sex is a good idea? ask her.
when i got back to texas that summer i told her all about it.

one day when lavoll and i finish writing and composing my autobiographical broadway musical, the program insert will include a map off the places i did horrid debaucherous things in your town so you can attempt to follow in my footsteps. good luck though.

would you believe im actually a nice straight laced mommy now? i read my children bedtime stories by 830 everynight and make art and go on imagination trips to the jungle and outerspace with them. well i do.
fuck you i dont care what you think. ginger balls.

I'm not surprised that you're a mommy now...with all that fucking it was inevitable.

...shoulda taken the load in your mouth and your tits like a good little girl. But I guess that's too conformist for you. Maybe next time you can eat a skeet-laden watermelon just for the kicks

In reply to this comment by peggedbea:
also on a different trip to san diego we broke into the sauna of the same fancy pants hotel iv stayed at and had sex in the sauna. it sounded like a hilarious and grand idea at the time. but it was fucking terrible. like trying to get off in a public gas chamber and then realizing you dont have an asphyxiation or exhibition fetish.

dont believe me? still think sauna sex is a good idea? ask her.
when i got back to texas that summer i told her all about it.

one day when lavoll and i finish writing and composing my autobiographical broadway musical, the program insert will include a map off the places i did horrid debaucherous things in your town so you can attempt to follow in my footsteps. good luck though.

would you believe im actually a nice straight laced mommy now? i read my children bedtime stories by 830 everynight and make art and go on imagination trips to the jungle and outerspace with them. well i do.
fuck you i dont care what you think. ginger balls.

also on a different trip to san diego we broke into the sauna of the same fancy pants hotel iv stayed at and had sex in the sauna. it sounded like a hilarious and grand idea at the time. but it was fucking terrible. like trying to get off in a public gas chamber and then realizing you dont have an asphyxiation or exhibition fetish.

dont believe me? still think sauna sex is a good idea? ask her.
when i got back to texas that summer i told her all about it.

one day when lavoll and i finish writing and composing my autobiographical broadway musical, the program insert will include a map off the places i did horrid debaucherous things in your town so you can attempt to follow in my footsteps. good luck though.

would you believe im actually a nice straight laced mommy now? i read my children bedtime stories by 830 everynight and make art and go on imagination trips to the jungle and outerspace with them. well i do.
fuck you i dont care what you think. ginger balls.

Well, I'm going to go ahead and get down voted, but I'm just stubborn that way it seems.

The main stream media's epic failure is not adequately covered in this sound bite. The summary at the end talks about the 'truth' finally coming out. All the media hacks talking points all discuss their failure in coverage in the past tense, as though they've corrected themselves. That simply isn't true. The media is still failing as badly as ever at covering anything related to either the Iraq or Afghanistan wars.

So far I'm safe and think we are agreed. I would attest though that the media has not only failed by being too ignorant and lazy in looking at America's policies, statements and decisions. They are also failing just as badly at presenting the situation of the people in Iraq under Saddam's rule. They are failing just as badly at covering any number of human catastrophes happening around the world. Al Jazeera just recently was the only major outlet to cover the revelation from escaped North Korean elite guards that the North's well known program for testing chemical weapons on humans is not limited to adults, but includes testing on children as well. Note the current tense, it means even today there are children somewhere in North Korea in a glass gas chamber being killed with nerve gas while a 'scientist' times how long it takes them to die. Meanwhile CNN can't be torn away from the latest on MJ's funeral plans to bother mentioning anything amiss abroad.

There is a very uncomfortably gray world out there that the mainstream media just can't be bothered to cover because the public can't be bothered to watch. This sound clip looks like it is not so much addressing the problem of bad media coverage, but trying to pretend that the bad media coverage proves that the war in Iraq was evil incarnate. It looks to me like instead of digging deeper to reveal the complexity of the world, it is instead just trying foist an alternative easy answer and simple explanation. In reality, it just proves that the war, good or bad, was covered miserably by the media, and in fact still is being covered miserably by them. To me that makes the media the absolute worst source to base any good/bad decision on.

What's worse, to me a 'documentary' peddling a different set of easy answers and simple explanations is just another part of the bigger problem. That problem being that people are uncomfortable with a complicated world that doesn't have clear cut good or bad solutions. That means people often prefer simple or easy answers to the truth when the truth makes them uncomfortable.

^ Psychologic, If I could quality a comment I would do so for that one.

>> ^imstellar28:
Yeah, it is. Thats what I'm saying. There wouldn't be any Iraq invasion if there weren't any army privates just like there wouldn't be any taxes if there weren't any tax collectors. Somebody has to do the job, and if nobody is willing to do it for moral or philosophical reasons (aka not willing to dump dead bodys in a gas chamber) then it will never happen.

Yeah, but in the real world there's always going to be someone who's willing to do anything, including gassing <insert scapegoat group here> for money.

But that's essentially a non-sequitor -- these people aren't doing anything immoral or illegal.

>> ^blankfist:
Don't claim certainty from your inferences; I never said collecting taxes is the same as genocide. I was making a point, not a comparison.

Yeah, you were making the point that people working in an office to collect taxes is just like being a guard at a death camp. I'm sure the message was the lack of accountability, and not an attempt to splatter both kinds of people with the same blood.

Again, the clerks aren't doing anything immoral or illegal.

The guy staging his publicity stunt "protest", on the other hand, does seem to be doing something both immoral and illegal.

There may be an argument to be made about 1st amendment rights, but there are limits. You can't make it illegal for me to hold a pro-Obama rally, but presumably you can make it illegal for me to choose to host one inside your house without your permission.

As for immoral, well, he's creating a scene, and accusing non-violent people of being violent, and refusing to leave when asked. I noticed that he seemed to leave peacefully when the police officer ordered him to leave, though not right away. He also seemed to be trying to provoke the officer, even once he left the building.

He's a big fucking pussy. The video would've had a much better ending if he'd stuck to his morals, and martyred himself. He should have refused to obey a lawful order from the officer, and got arrested, and perhaps yelled out "help, help, I'm being repressed!"

The whole point here seemed to me to be his own self-aggrandizement, and to attempt to manufacture a situation that he could use for political propaganda. Nothing wrong happened here, except what he himself did.

^ Individual accountability.

If I read your post correctly, you are implying that the clerks are operating with no individual accountability. That isn't really the case because the clerks are still bound by law in their actions. If they were steal a person's wallet in the course of their job (or lead someone to their death in a gas chamber) then they would definitely be held accountable for those actions (assuming it was provable anyway).

The clerks are basically the people servicing one end of a contract. The US government has decided that anyone who chooses to live within it's borders are subject to taxation, and documentation of the penalties for refusing to comply with that taxation is freely available.

Basically, if you don't agree to taxation then don't agree to live where the taxes are required. If you choose to live there then don't act surprised when the established laws are enforced (including laws/practices that you may not agree with).


Having said that, people are more than welcome to disagree with any law/practice that they want (I know of multiple I don't like). There are methods for changing laws built into the governmental structure, but there is still an expectation for enforcing laws until they are changed. Revolution is also an option, though technically illegal itself. =)

Yeah, it is. Thats what I'm saying. There wouldn't be any Iraq invasion if there weren't any army privates just like there wouldn't be any taxes if there weren't any tax collectors. Somebody has to do the job, and if nobody is willing to do it for moral or philosophical reasons (aka not willing to dump dead bodys in a gas chamber) then it will never happen.

These clerks are a good a target as any. They fact that they think they are innocent perhaps makes them even better targets than those higher up who know they are guilty.

>> ^Psychologic:
It's like bitching at an army private about the invasion of Iraq