The Falcon is 35m long, and is a light freighter.
The Enterprise is several hundred meters long, and is a battleship.

No contest. The Falcon would have as much chance against the Enterprise as it would against a Star Destroyer (or Nebulon-B frigate, or..).

I remember taking forever and stealing as many of those bad boys as I could, honestly I don't think I would have made it to the end without all those extra Ion Frigates. I'm tempted to pick this up but I also remember how much of a pain in the ass this game was, but then I also suck at RTS games.

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That French trawler was decomissioned more than four years ago, so at least certain parts of this clip are not exactly fresh. That said, the frigate(?) was heaving a metric fuckton of water.

Could've done without the editing, but a great moody visual overall. And to see that fast frigate go half airborne at 3:00+ , wow.

I have to agree with Chaosengine. Being Portuguese I can assure you our problems are not a direct result of a socialist agenda. In fact, it's the direct result of governments borrowing more than we can pay, and leaving the tab for the next guy like the assholes that they are, and spending money on completely moronic things.

Did you know Portugal is actually one of the countries in the world with the best network of roads? There are no more, no less that 3 different roads, in parallel connecting Lisbon and Porto (the two biggest cities). You have the A1 (the most important highway), then the A17 (a newer highway) and the old N1 (just a regular 2 lane road). WHY? We don't need it.

A few years back, the then Minister of Defence (who is now the foreign affairs minister, a disgusting weasel) order 2 fucking submarines from Germany. They cost 500 million euros each (1 billion in total). Now... It's true that Portugal has an absolutely huge area of the Atlantic to survey, control, and administer, but anyone with half a brain knows that you do that with frigates and fast ships. That 1 billion euros could have been used to save a big famous shipyard which is on the brink of bankruptcy, and could have easily manufactured hundreds of smaller vessels. (oh.. and that shit head of a minister, when he was the defence minister actually told the people who worked at the shipyard that they would be building what I just said. Of course, they never did)

The previous government insisted against EVERYONE that Lisbon needed a new Airport. Of course, that is now on the shelf, be cause it was completely stupid and it would cost several billion euros.

Oh, did I mention the TGV? (the high speed train). Porto and Lisbon are connected by a train called the Pendular, which looks a lot like a tgv, and is supposed to reach speeds of 250 km/h (which is great really. At that speed the trip between the two cities would take no more than 2 hours) the problem is, greedy incompetent assholes always get their hands on government funded programs, and they built the whole line between Porto and Lisbon (which is about 350km's in lenght) and the only place the train can achieve the top speed is between my city and another one to the south, in a journey of no more than 50km's (it's not a safety thing mind you, it's just the track wasn't built like it was supposed to) The rest of the time, the train hops along a 150.. 170km/h. WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE NEED A TGV between the two cities when the existing train is already great IF it had been properly built. Thankfully that's also in the shelf.

The European Championship of 2004... it was great. Portugal almost won the championship, which would have been great, since we were the hosts. And everything went great. Several new stadiums were built, the festivities were very nice, etc. The problem is, most of these stadiums are now a maintenance nightmare, because the ones left with the bill are the cities and not the government. My own city is 200 million in the red because of all this shit (a city of less than 80,000 people. although the whole district has a lot more people. About 600,000).

These are just a few examples, and not ONE of them is a result of socialism, but of stupid management and capitalism, and wanting to buy shiny things.

AND then we also get fucked nice and royally in the ass by most atrocious capitalist system in the world, the american one, which has the 3 most notorious rating agencies spewing nothing but stupidity, speculation, lies, and anything that gets their fuck buddies some extra euros or dollars. The United States was 2 days away from going into default, and only came up with a ridiculous temporary measure. Yet, none of the agencies touched the american rating. How curious! Portugal was bailed out by the IMF, it has a majority government, consensus from the people that sacrifices must be done even though they suck and in some cases are completely unfair, was actually going beyond what the IMF requested, and still Moody's slashed the rating to junk.

In short... this whole financial crisis was caused by over-consumption, really shitty management, and a lot of business practices that should, quite frankly be a crime!

>> ^artician:

>This takes me back to 1983 with a 300 baud Volksmodem
Oh yeah? Well it takes ME back to 1844, telegraphing morse-code!


Kids nowadays.

I remember 1066, flashing shiny surfaces from frigate to frigate.

Aww, I was hoping this was a trailer for a new Homeworld game. Had a ton of fun with all 3 of these, but Cataclysm was easily my favorite. Beam array frigates FTW

hard to improve from civ4. I really hope they don't do the same thing that you can win a clearly superior unit. Way too many times a bloody frigate sinks a destroyer or a spearman kills a troop of marines, which is just ridiculous.

Fascinating.

* Why are so many done side on? Seems to be fraught with great danger for the ship, the first one has a huge amount of water flow up onto its deck. The ones done front on seem much smoother
* The one on the tubes may look dangerous, but it worked very smoothly indeed compared to some of the others.
* The low quality of the front first one making the large wave... me thinks those people laugh just a little too damn much. And where the hell are the engineers etc. telling people NOT to stand there? (and the others with the same issue). Someone is going to get swept off and killed during one of those.
* How incredibly, incredibly heartbreaking must the last one have been. ALL that work by SO many people... gone, just like that.

Terrible.

But great video. Ships of that size fascinate me. I worked on the ANZAC frigates for a while as a student engineer, and I was in hog heaven being around all those MASSIVE bits of steel, and being able to climb around inside half finished ships. Amazing engineering.

Here are the translated lyrics:

In the space of just one slipped beat of the tongue
there is big bang and total entropy
from red giants to white dwarfs
the whole scale
of cosmic dimensions are falling
out of my mouth
in the description of a kiss
of the interimlovers

of the interimlovers
in the interim

between microphone and macrocosm
between chaos and on no course
between plankton und philisophia
between semtex and utopia

there they are
the interimlovers

in their communal mouth
lives a hummingbird
with each humming beat of its wings
too swift for the eye to see
cultures flourish and perish
whole continents vanish
here are no harmless words
all by far too large
an example most simple explodes
in 10^14 for
the interimlovers

the interimlovers
in the interim

between toothache and oil of cloves
between genesis and sixsixsix
between c'' and vitamin c
between ultramarine and navy frigate

the interimlovers are intimate

the interimlovers
in the
INTERIM

in the course of just one winking beat of an eye
they have putsched
the government was felled
parliament dissolved
elections held
results annulled
new elections called
then finally exiled
in history reviled
I wade through the filth of mighty
metaphors
meta, meta, meta by metre
with gestures far too wide
for the interimlovers

the interimlovers
are lovers in the interim

between temporary and tenpura
between rope and sword dance
between times and on the seafloor
between semtex and utopia
they lay in each others arms

thirstily devour
that last little drop of light
they are not there yesterday
and tomorrow not yet
the lovers
the interimlovers
they are not there yesterday
and tomorrow not yet
not really
the interimlovers
they are not there yesterday
and tomorrow not yet)

I've been on an aircraft carrier in seas like this. The ship doesn't really pitch and roll as much, but you can look in compartments along the hull and see I beams buckled. I've been on a fast frigate too, and the puke factor was off the scale. It's funny how used to it you get though, I was the master with a deck buffer in high seas, lol. It's an art form.

You simply can't compare EvE with Jumpgate. In jumpgate, you control fighters or that sort of ships. In EvE, the smallest ships (except the shuttles) are slightly bigger than a Boeing 747. These are frigates, and the equivalent for jumpgate ship are the drones. You're more a captain at a deck than a pilot in its cockpit.

EvE is also about building empires, and occasionnaly fighting (which can be very intense when it comes to 200 vs 200, with all kind of ship, from frigate to capital ship like Titans that are 15-17km long).

I wish I had thought to sift this first. I've loved this song since I was eleven years old. It really speaks to me.

I'll never be like Endicott either! Thank god I'm free. Freer than a pirate on a frigate out at sea! No Endicott in me!

Empire is right, that is a frigate that was reclassified as a "destroyer escort". It was destroyed by one standard Mk-48 torpedo. It is designed to explode under the keel of the target ship, but I'm pretty sure it's the explosive shock that breaks it, not the ship "falling" into the void.