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QAmom - Confronting my mom's conspiracy theories

newtboy says...

"Truth" is an idea in the mind of a crazy person. You don't need to know the truth to not lie.

"I thought I easily won the election fraud, if it wasn't for the fax checkers debunking it all...but I believe it's real." Wtf, lady. If real FACT checkers debunked it, with proof, then it's not real. She's like a 17 year old who, even though she's actually helped her parents play Santa for her little sister and seen first hand that no fat guy came down the chimney or flew off behind a bunch of giant flying deer, still believes Santa is real. How did so many Americans become so incredibly delusional that they trust convicted con men and anonymous internet trolls spreading bat shit crazy convoluted conspiracy theories that require impossibly perfect secrecy from millions of people about outrageous things like eating live babies and a cadre of space lasers over professional fact checkers with verifiable proof and sanity?

*promote for @bobknight33, you are this woman in most everyone's eyes....but far less honest, you would never admit you were wrong and definitely wouldn't pay your lost bet.

It's a Critter Christmas

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

"Unobserved, unsupervised, and not in public view"

Yeah, except for the multiple cameras pointed at them from various HD cameras that are live-streaming and recording everything in the room. As in... the place where they got the footage?


Ahh i must be mixed up, you and he clearly know better than I do, but I think Biden still has a chance. You're a crook, I tell you, but I'll bet on it.


Drop me a PM and we can make the arrangements $1,000 a piece - a gentlemen's bet, no? Apparently, The escrow fee is 1% so for the 2 of us it'd be $20 total. Hey, I got you buddy. I'll pay your fee if that's what's holding you back.


The bet terms roughly are as follows

DONALD TRUMP WILL CEASE TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ON OR BEFORE JAN 20, 2021.

Remember to use your legal name on any of the forms, do you have a (digital) fax machine? I use MetroFax for contracts and hospital documents.Pretty cheap, saves me enough headaches throughout the year but it's worth it. Oh listen to me blabbering on. LETS WIN yOU that MONEYYYYYYYY!

I will bet in the affirmative!

YES

DONALD TRUMP WILL CEASE TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ON OR BEFORE JAN 20, 2021.

YES YES YESSSSS uhahh oh my...YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS omg... i never cam...hold on, i'll get you a towel.

bobknight33 said:

No evidence???.. Lots of smoke

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White House revokes CNN reporters press pass

newtboy says...

WTF are you talking about?
The CNN article was totally unbiased, simply explaining why some counties missed their deadlines for recounts by 2 minutes (inexperience and ignorance of the process) and so didn't have their recounts count, and why another (properly) invalidated it's own recount because their machines kept breaking and they couldn't verify their own results.
I also don't get what you're saying about their title. Not a bit. Where's the bias there? What?! No recount counts, they're doing them all over....by hand.

Where's the excusing law bending, like the Republican who unapologetically broke state law to allow email and fax voting, but Fox reported that type of voting isn't"normally allowed" not "is specifically forbidden by state law"? Notice any patterns yet?

I just don't see what you're talking about at all.

I've been clear, Fox doesn't have a monopoly on bias, but they are the clear master of the field and are also the most willing to make up their own facts, as they've been caught doing thousands of times.
If CNN has a bias rating of 4/10, Fox is closer to 9/10. If Fox has an honesty rating of 4/10, CNN is closer to 8-9/10. That's what I've been saying all along. They aren't equivalent.

Side note-A federal judge reinstated Acosta's press pass today.

Briguy1960 said:

Hmm
CNN seems to have no trouble bending the law
and are even quite indignant about the folks that simply followed the law with the tone of that headline.

Are you starting to see the patterns yet?
Fox isn't the only News/Entertainment business that prefers to see things in a certain light which is what I have been trying to say all along.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/broward-county-recount-didnt-count/index.html

White House revokes CNN reporters press pass

newtboy says...

That's a pretty biased way to minimize the fact that he violated clear state law that prohibits vote by email or fax, and refuses to remove the fraudulent votes from his tallies.

"Neither means of communication is normally allowed"....a far cry from the truth, "both means of voting are specifically prohibited by law", and quite short of how they characterize being a few minutes late filing provisional, military, and mail in ballots in other counties. That is illegal, anti American election tampering by frauds and criminals that should be jailed in Fox's opinion, but this blatant direct violation of election law is just the election official being helpful....and you still claim they're less biased.....

Briguy1960 said:

Yes it does tell it with his reasons for his doing so which is what makes it more informative and entertaining I might add.
They also did include this minor bit below..
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Approximately 11 ballots were accepted by email and 147 were faxed in, the report said. Neither means of communication is normally allowed to be used to submit votes, according to Florida’s laws, except in the case of military personnel and voters overseas.
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Trump and His Fellow Grifters Lie About "Voter Fraud"

newtboy says...

There is rampant fraud in Florida....Republican election officials allowed other Republicans to vote by email and fax, specifically forbidden by law and totally unsecured, ripe for fraud. Of course, Trump and Republicans have no problem with those fraudulent votes being counted.

Nice that we have a president so well educated that he doesn't remember the 2000 election.

Normally, when someone takes a shit and it's orange, they go see a doctor. We elected it president.

White House revokes CNN reporters press pass

Briguy1960 says...

Yes it does tell it with his reasons for his doing so which is what makes it more informative and entertaining I might add.
They also did include this minor bit below..
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Approximately 11 ballots were accepted by email and 147 were faxed in, the report said. Neither means of communication is normally allowed to be used to submit votes, according to Florida’s laws, except in the case of military personnel and voters overseas.
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It is not something you wouldn't see under a more liberal site say CNN with the same twist favoring the dem candidate.
The fun part is finding the truth and or keeping track of these stories and how they play out.
Did he actually mean well?
Was it all above board?
Will they end up being tossed regardless because the law is clear?
No this isn't the unbiased reporting I was talking about but it's certainly no worse than others.
You know that going in and you and you keep your wits about you just as with other sites.
I'm pretty sure Sheppard Smith didn't write this one.....

I don't know If I missed any Trump bashing in this one but it seems pretty fair to me...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-voters-have-until-saturday-to-fix-signature-issue-federal-judge-says

newtboy said:

I'm sure you prefer this way....


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gillum-condemns-county-for-accepting-email-fax-votes-due-to-hurricane-michael-despite-previous-calls-to-count-every-v
ote

(Sorry, you have to cut and paste the link, Sifty chops off the last word)

I intentionally found you a Fox report, which unsurprisingly downplays the fact this is specifically forbidden by state law, and repeats claims it was done with care because Republicans are the ones breaking the law to allow their own to vote illegally here, and to them the story is Democrats not wanting to count every vote (including invalid votes), not Republicans breaking the law to accept and count votes that are unacceptable and don't count.

White House revokes CNN reporters press pass

newtboy says...

I'm sure you prefer this way....


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gillum-condemns-county-for-accepting-email-fax-votes-due-to-hurricane-michael-despite-previous-calls-to-count-every-v
ote

(Sorry, you have to cut and paste the link, Sifty chops off the last word)

I intentionally found you a Fox report, which unsurprisingly downplays the fact this is specifically forbidden by state law, and repeats claims it was done with care because Republicans are the ones breaking the law to allow their own to vote illegally here, and to them the story is Democrats not wanting to count every vote (including invalid votes), not Republicans breaking the law to accept and count votes that are unacceptable and don't count.

SMALT

radx (Member Profile)

bareboards2 says...

Is this our future? No more public gatherings? All it takes is a phone call and an abandoned suitcase. They don't even have to blow themselves up any more.

Sidenotes:

1. I learned there is a thing called a "friendly." Football is such a shared thing, you don't even have to say the noun. The adjective is enough.

2. Silly story -- I live in a small town that for years had only one prefix on the phone numbers. 385. Folks wouldn't even give the entire phone number. If your number was 385-1234, you'd just say 1234. The town grew, fax machines came into vogue, and they had to add a prefix 379 to handle the increased need for phone numbers.

But old habits die hard, yeah? I'm a 385-1234. The new assistant police chief got 379-1234. Guess who got his phone calls all the time? Because people were on autopilot when dialing?

Folks would leave a message on my answering machine and I would pass it on. After all, I knew his phone number.

My favorite message for a long time was this: "Hi Connor. This is Jim. Ted tells me you have the key to City Hall." Such a small town, I knew the occupations and last names of everyone named in that message. Still cracks me up.

My most favorite message, though, is the last one I ever got. "Connor, just wanted you to know that the bomb squad has been called. An abandoned suitcase has been found at the Post Office." Well! Talk about breaking news! I passed on the message, per usual.

There must have been bloody hell raised at the police station about such sensitive info being left on the wrong answering machine, because I never got another wrong number about official police business.

I love how stories build.

radx said:

Well, the game was cancelled and the city is filled to the brim with rozzers carrying MP5s. Good times, as always.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/17/germany-holland-friendly-suspicious-suitcase

Judge backs charges against cops in Tamir Rice killing

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Detroit firefighters use soda cans to get emergency alerts

FlowersInHisHair says...

They're idiots if they don't try to find a better solution than a soda can balanced on a printer, yes. They could find someone who knows how to set up an audible alarm when a fax comes in to a PC quite easily.

Payback said:

Ya, people who run INTO burning buildings and save lives and property are idiots if they don't know how to program a computer, because -y'know like- everyone who has a computer knows how to program it.

Seriously though... there's some serious irony in the fire hazard wiring of their bell system.

Detroit firefighters use soda cans to get emergency alerts

entr0py says...

I have no doubt they're underfunded and it's not a good situation.

But, they have a PC with speakers right there, couldn't they use like a $10 fax / modem and have some loud sound play on incoming faxes? They need a visit from some volunteer geek wizard who's familiar with such arcane technology.

PBS SELLS OUT - A SAD DAY FOR MANKIND

ChaosEngine jokingly says...

Yes, because if you disagree at all with TYT, you must be a rabid fax-watching moron.

There can be no middle ground.

billpayer said:

TYT rocks !!!

F.U. haters. Link to some better news source if you have one...
FOX news doesn't count.

PBS is definitely under attack, Wake the F up.



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