>> ^dgandhi:

Wait...Falwell's Liberty University?
Good to know this tune is "Christ centered".


I know why they love it. It's not often that students at Jerry Falwell's university get to feel smarter than somebody.

Wait...Falwell's Liberty University?

Good to know this tune is "Christ centered".

*promote

The nine year anniversary of 9/11 is only a couple of weeks away, lets celebrate the fact that Falwells unraptured, bloated body is rotting safely somewhere.

>> ^MrFisk:

I think you mean Shelby-Phelps.
In reply to this comment by MilkmanDan:
"Does any other religion even carry signs like this?"
I guess he has not seen Falwell "God Hates Fags", and the more violent/threatening variations thereof. Not that I think this particularly damages the case that he would make (and I'd tend to agree -- I'd just say that Falwell's Christians have no place in Western society either).


You're correct - my bad. I was typing in a hurry and came up with the wrong name. I'll correct it in the thread, thanks!

I think you mean Shelby-Phelps.

In reply to this comment by MilkmanDan:
"Does any other religion even carry signs like this?"

I guess he has not seen Falwell "God Hates Fags", and the more violent/threatening variations thereof. Not that I think this particularly damages the case that he would make (and I'd tend to agree -- I'd just say that Falwell's Christians have no place in Western society either).

"Does any other religion even carry signs like this?"

I guess he has not seen FalwellPhelps' "God Hates Fags", and the more violent/threatening variations thereof. Not that I think this particularly damages the case that he would make (and I'd tend to agree -- I'd just say that FalwellPhelps' Christians have no place in Western society either).


*EDIT:
Replace Falwell (Jerry) with Phelps (Fred). I was typing quickly and got my militant far-right-wing christian leaders mixed up! Although, to cut myself some slack, some similarly intolerant / violent / wrathful statements have originated from Falwell also...

>> ^bobknight33:
Hitchens is Rude and shameful. Falwell was a better man than Hitchens. Why would anyone have him on their show?


Why? Because he was glad for the death of someone for whom he disagreed with? Hmmm, I think I remember someone else who did that fairly recently, eh bobknight? Just sayin...


http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Day-in-100-Seconds-Remembering
-Ted-Kennedy
>> ^bobknight33:
Thank GOD this dude is dead!

Hitchens is Rude and shameful. Falwell was a better man than Hitchens. Why would anyone have him on their show?

I cheered for Jerry Falwell's death and I still do.

Thanks man

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
*promote teh evil

If you gave Falwell an enema, he could be buried in a matchbox
-Christopher Hitchens

>> ^Fjnbk:
Mark Sanford has been an idiot on the fiscal and monetary front, but he's never said that much about moral matters. Yes, he voted for Clinton's impeachment, but it's disingenuous to paint him as a Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell type politician.


He supports teacher-led prayer in schools along with displaying the 10 commandments in school. He defines marriage as "one man, one woman" (and mistress?) and stated that South Carolina should not recognize same-sex civil unions. He also opposes adoption rights for gay couples.

Sure, there are far more vocal (and extreme) people out there on such issues, but that doesn't change Sanford's stated view of the importance of marriage and opposition to allowing homosexuals to take part in it.

He's certainly free to not like homosexuals, but it kinda sucks to see people use political office to promote religious "morality" at the expense of the rights of others. His infidelity doesn't change my view of him, it just makes his stance on marriage even more laughable.


Random Sanford quotes:
http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2009/06/24/mark-sanford-governor-of-black-pots-and-kettles/comment-page-1/

Mark Sanford has been an idiot on the fiscal and monetary front, but he's never said that much about moral matters. Yes, he voted for Clinton's impeachment, but it's disingenuous to paint him as a Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell type politician.

>> ^Psychologic:
>> ^deedub81:
YEAH!!! We should just lower the standards! Anyone who isn't perfect can't talk about morals! You have to be flawless in order to encourage others to be good!

What about people who try to pass off their personal prejudices as "morality"?

That guy should have his own evangelism show.

Hell, SOMEONE's gotta replace Jerry Falwell...

I'm in a wait-and-see kind of mood about this. It's ultimately a low-risk for him politically. Liberals might get annoyed about it, but most of what they'll be saying to press will be defaming of Rick Warren, not Obama.

If, in four years time, people say they won't vote to re-elect Obama because of Rick Warren at the inauguration, I'll personally go and slap every one of them upside the head.

The effect it's having on the right and middle is what we should watch for. I guarantee, the invocation before the inauguration will get coverage from all networks and if Warren sets a conciliatory tone, this could come out as a net benefit for Obama.

If Warren starts talking about how we have to fight the rising gay tide, he's gonna get marginalized by the mainstream, like Dobson and Falwell and their ilk. Sunshine is the best disinfectant, so they say.

It's irritating to be sure, but I'm thinking it's more likely than not to work out to his benefit.

A lot of people are saying Warren will be the next generation's Dobson, and if Obama can get the battle to de-escalate, that could have some very far-ranging benefit to liberals over the coming decades.