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has rachel maddow lost her mind?

radx says...

Is there a signed treaty? No. But the US SoS (James A. Baker III) and the German Foreign Minister (Hans-Dietrich Genscher) are on the record in 1990

Genscher is on video tape stating very clearly: "Wir waren uns einig, dass nicht die Absicht besteht das NATO-Verteidigungsgebiet auszudehnen nach Osten. Das gilt übrigens nicht nur im Bezug auf die DDR, die wir da nicht einverlaiben wollen, sondern das gilt ganz generell."

In English: we are in agreement that there is no intention of expanding the NATO security zone eastwards. This applies not only to the GDR, which we do not intend to incorporate, but in general."

Or how about Baker's words, Feb. 9, 1990, St. Catherine's Hall at the Kremlin:
"If we maintain a presence in a Germany that is a part of NATO, there would be no extension of NATO's jurisdiction for forces of NATO one inch to the East."

And the minutes show Gorbachev as having said:
"Certainly any extension of the zone of NATO is unacceptable."

To which Baker replied:
"I agree."

Again, no treaties, nothing. But some people, myself included, make the argument that unequivocal statements of a nation's highest-ranking diplomat are to be taken seriously, unless overruled by explicit, written agreements.

And from what we've heard from Gorbachev over the years, he took them for their words.

Admittedly, having been replaced by Yelzin who received massive "help" from the US might have made Gorbachev a little grumpy.

What remains at the end is this: NATO was created as a defensive alliance against the Soviets and wasn't dissolved when the Soviet Union collapsed. The highest-ranking diplomats of the primary players at that time (US, FRG) are on the record with promises that NATO wouldn't expand eastwards after the German reunification. Now NATO is closer to Russia's border than ever and the Ukraine had a democratically elected government (they were thugs, but elected) overthrown by forces that had massive support from the US. As a result, fascist militias wearing SS insignia are roaming free in Novorossiya, with government support.

If I were Russia, I'd be pissed.

But I'm in Germany, so now I have a strongman in charge of Russia, a thug who has journalists and opposition in general killed, on the one side, and the Americans who installed a Nazi-sympathising regime in Ukraine on the other.

What's not to like about it.

So when the US establishment then goes on a full-blown bender to position Russia as a scapegoat for now having to live with President Trump, they are playing with fire just to distract from their fucked-up domestic policies.

And we're not even touching on the hypocrisy of the US being outraged when some foreign nation meddles in their internal affairs. Of course Russia tries to influence US politics in their favor. Guess what, so does the UK, France, Germany, NZ, China, Japan, even bloody Luxembourg for all I know. Just like the US exerts influence on German politics (ie German Marshall Fund, Atlantikbrücke, etc), and on politics of every other nation of significance.

newtboy said:

EDIT: As to the troop placement in the Eastern NATO countries, I would like to see minutes of the 1990 summit where this agreement/guarantee was either made or not, not just reports of what Putin says today VS what Gorbachev says today...I want to see what was ACTUALLY said in the meeting, and more important, what was SIGNED by the parties. That the Russians haven't produced a signed treaty guaranteeing NATO wouldn't deploy farther in the East EVER is a pretty good indicator to me that it was not agreed on, so claims about what may have been SAID during negotiations are moot and have no bearing at all on what was agreed on. It's possible there was that agreement, if they just point us to it, I'll be on their side on this topic (unless it included a clause like "unless Russia begins expansion back into it's now independent satellites")

The Space Lady ~ Major Tom

Sagemind says...

The Space Lady (aka Suzy Soundz) is San Francisco’s most enchanting street musician. Whether on keyboard or accordion, her music stops sidewalk traffic even in this multi-task town. She usually performs wearing a whimsical steel helmet with angel wings, which makes her easy to recognize but belies the credibility of her haunting vocal interpretations of well known songs. The Space Lady, whose real name is Susan Dietrich, made only a full length CD of San Francisco sessions for sale. The disc features Susan performing live on Casio with effects.
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Space+Lady

Anne Hathaway demo tape for the Queen Tribute Band

chingalera says...

It's called, " Ella Enchanted (2004)"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327679/


Obviously a gem that slipped-through the cracks and inspired a casting-call for her her to eventually star in another version of Les Miserables, and her inevitable Oscar for her multi-talented skills as the pert, cute, and can sing-her-own-parts-kinna powerhouse (hate all the Les Miserable screen-adaptations, have yet to see this one).

Compare to these classic multi-talented hotties Debbie Reynolds, Rita Hayworth, Marlene Dietrich

The only modern actress' that come close in actual pipes and raw beauty are Scarlet Johansson and Nicole Kidman, who can pretty-much sing her tiny little cute Aussie ass off...

Oh wait, lest we forget the two dames from Chicago (2002), who can hold their own with the rest-Zeta-Jones and Zelweger, but Renée was trumped by Catherine in that film.

Yogi said:

What movie is this from?

Early Batman Trailer Starring Orson Welles

Twitter Rape Victim Punished

Fischer-Dieskau sings Schubert -- "Der Erlkönig"

Siftquisition of feature Siftquisition (User Poll by Ornthoron)

qualm says...

^ It's the Postmodern Sift Talk Generator. The primary theme of Dietrich’s analysis of dialectic discourse is not, in fact, discourse, but neodiscourse. Lacan’s essay on cultural theory implies that the collective is part of the futility of language, but only if dialectic discourse is valid; otherwise, Debord’s model of Derridaist reading is...oh fuck!! Get some rags and some ice!! Choggie stuck his hand under the lawn-mower again!!!

Another very disturbing British PSA: Belt Up in the Back

oxdottir says...

Actual data from http://www.flachslaw.com/library/the-dangers-of-unbelted-backseat-passengers.cfm

A study at the University of Buffalo reveals that passengers who don’t wear seatbelts significantly increase the driver’s risk of dying in an auto accident. When a car is in a head-on collision, the passenger in the backseat becomes a “backseat bullet,” shooting from his seat and slamming into the back of the driver or other passengers. Dietrich Jehle, an associate professor of emergency medicine at Buffalo says that, “the odds of death were almost three times higher for the unbelted passenger and two times higher for the driver,” in head-on collisions.

In the District of Columbia, all passengers are required to wear safety belts. However, in Virginia, only those passengers in the front seat are required to wear belts. But, as in many cases, just because the action isn’t illegal doesn’t make it a good idea.

Researchers at Buffalo ran tests with crash test dummies and found that when the passenger behind the driver is unbelted, there is a four-fold increase in the maximum force to the driver’s head and chest.

Jehle estimates that if 95% rear passengers wore seatbelts, we would save more than 800 lives a year and prevent more than 65,000 injuries. This would represent a savings of about $3.8 billion a year in the United States.

Fischer-Dieskau sings Schubert -- "Der Erlkönig"

Why Atheists Care About YOUR Religion

omnistegan says...

>> ^Peroxide:
So religion caused the holocaust hey? ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer


Dietrich Bonhoeffer's religion didn't cause the holocaust, Adolf Hitler's beliefs caused the holocaust. Whether or not Hitler's beliefs about Jewish extermination were due to religion or not has been a topic of debate among much smarter people than myself. This wikipedia article has a lot of information on the topic.
My point is, pointing to Bonhoeffer doesn't prove that religion didn't cause the holocaust, it proves that Bonhoeffer's blend of religion didn't cause the holocaust.

Wanted: Political/ Anti-War/ Protest Songs (Rocknroll Talk Post)

Cowgirl Catfight-Marlene Dietrich and Una Merkel

Woman Crashes Shelby Cobra

Women in Film

pigeon says...

In order - Mary Pickford, Lillian Gish, Gloria Swanson, Marlene Dietrich, Norma Shearer, Ruth Chatterton, Jean Harlow, Katharine Hepburn, Carole Lombard, Bette Davis, Greta Garbo, Barbara Stanwyck, Vivien Leigh, Greer Garson, Hedy Lamarr, Rita Hayworth, Gene Tierney, Olivia de Havilland, Ingrid Bergman, Joan Crawford, Ginger Rogers, Loretta Young, Deborah Kerr, Judy Garland, Anne Baxter, Lauren Bacall, Susan Hayward, Ava Gardner, Marilyn Monroe, Grace Kelly, Lana Turner, Elizabeth Taylor, Kim Novak, Audrey Hepburn, Joanne Woodward, Shirley MacLaine, Natalie Wood, Angie Dickinson, Janet Leigh, Brigitte Bardot, Sophia Loren, Ann-Margret, Julie Andrews, Raquel Welch, Tuesday Weld, Jane Fonda, Julie Christie, Faye Dunaway, Catherine Deneuve, Jacqueline Bisset, Candice Bergen, Isabella Rossellini, Diane Keaton, Goldie Hawn, Meryl Streep, Susan Sarandon, Jessica Lange, Michelle Pfeiffer, Sigourney Weaver, Kathleen Turner, Holly Hunter, Jodie Foster, Melanie Griffith, Sharon Stone, Meg Ryan, Demi Moore, Julia Roberts, Uma Thurman, Sandra Bullock, Julianne Moore, Diane Lane, Nicole Kidman, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, Reese Witherspoon, Gwyneth Paltrow

"Triumph of the Will" -- definitive German propaganda film

choggie says...

Ror all ya Nazi buffs, here's the cretins' in this little flick, destined to lick for all eternity, the triage room floors of Hell's Veteran's Hospital.....Don't really wanna vote for this, and won't......
Adolf Hitler ... Himself (lauded by Hess, Physical Labour speech to RAD, Behind Us Comes Germany speech to HJ, We Created Our State speech, Black Shadow speech to SA, reviews parade, Two Principles speech to Party) rest of cast listed alphabetically: Max Amann ... Himself (views parade of SA in long pants, no banners) Martin Bormann ... Himself (sits on Hitler's left, at HJ rally, enters hall behind Hess, sits behind Streicher) Walter Buch ... Himself (views parade of SA in long pants, no banners, views SS parade) Walter Darré ... Himself (Health of Our Farmers speech) Otto Dietrich ... Himself (Truth About Germany speech) Sepp Dietrich ... Himself (Commander of the SS-Leibstandarten) Hans Frank ... Himself (speech) Josef Goebbels ... Himself (arrives by plane with Hitler, Bright Flame speech, at HJ rally, views RAD parade, listens to Hitler) Hermann Göring ... Himself (listens to Hess, reviews Army, parades in SA uniform then joins Hitler, listens to Hitler, stands and nods agreement) Jakob Grimminger ... Blood Flag BearerRudolf Hess ... Himself (opens Congress, You Are Germany speech, at HJ rally, reviews parade, sits on Hitler's right, introduces Hitler, listens to Hitler, Hitler Is Germany speech) Reinhard Heydrich ... Himself (views SS parade with other officers by Hitler's car) Konstantin Hierl ... Himself (National Labour Service speech, presents RAD to Hitler, leads RAD parade then joins Hitler) Heinrich Himmler ... Himself (walks to flame with Hitler and Lutze, leads SS at SA rally, leads SS parade then joins Hitler, sits beside Lutze, listens to Hitler) Robert Ley ... Himself (reviews DAF with Hitler, Single Thought speech, salutes SA parade, listens to Hitler with Schwarz) Viktor Lutze ... Himself (speech as new SA leader, walks to flame with Hitler, Faithful to Führer speech, leads SA parade then joins Hitler, sits between Himmler and Hess, listens to Hitler) Erich Raeder ... Himself (listens to Hess, salutes SA parade when Göring sighted) Fritz Reinhardt ... Himself (Improvements speech) Alfred Rosenberg ... Himself (Unshakeable Belief speech) Hjalmar Schacht ... HimselfFranz Xaver Schwarz ... Himself (sits between Wagner and Himmler, listens to Hitler with Ley) Julius Streicher ... Himself (stands with Hitler, Purity Of Race speech, sits on Hitler's left near podium, nods in agreement with Hitler) Fritz Todt ... Himself (Autobahn speech) Werner von Blomberg ... Himself (reviews Army units with Hitler and Göring) Hans Georg von Friedeburg ... Himself (salutes SA parade when Göring sighted) Gerd von Rundstedt ... Himself (behind Raeder as he salutes, views Army parade with officers) (unconfirmed) Baldur von Schirach ... Himself (in car, arrives at stadium with Hitler, Selfless Youth speech to HJ, views SS parade, listens to Hitler) Adolf Wagner ... Himself (reads Hitler's proclamation, views parade of SA in short pants, sits beside Schwarz, listens to Hitler)
Change of heart-
Historic, and a lot like sweeps week or the Superbowl, in channeled energy tword's a goal.....Hitler was a psychotic, and quite sure twards' the finale of other great nations, we'll see more of his ilk.....Iran's charming sickoid, North Vietnam's......short matter of time for the west.....

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