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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

The texts, released yesterday, proved exactly that.

The Trump SS had credible threats by Jan 4 of an armed attack imminent on Jan 6 and serious specific death threats against Pelosi, Pence, and others that they actually hid from the targets and capitol police for days until 5 hours into the coup.

The SS is corrupted and was part of the failed fascist Trump coup.

Every single one should be fired for cause, no pension, banned from law enforcement for life, and investigated for their part in the coup and dereliction of duty.

No wonder they tried so hard to erase all traces of what they did surrounding the fascist coup….they were involved.

newtboy said:

Yep. The secret service is corrupted. No longer a non political organization, it’s become a Trump criminal cult.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Yep. The secret service is corrupted. No longer a non political organization, it’s become a Trump criminal cult.

After spending a week insisting the story that they had erased text messages surrounding the coup they were involved in was false, they had all the texts never erased, they supplied all those texts they claimed had not illegally been destroyed….all one of them, one single text. Like they’re thumbing their nose at congress, America, and the law.

2 weeks AFTER 2 official requests for the text messages, they went through with a total erasure of months of texts, including those twice subpoenaed, then spent months stonewalling subpoenas (something they should absolutely never even be capable of and IS definitely criminal), and another month recently falsely denying they erased the texts despite being ordered not to. That’s criminal, dereliction of duty, destruction of government property, and defying a federal subpoena. Every single agent should be prosecuted just like Bannon, and face 2 years for those crimes and sentenced to the maximum as corrupt traitors to America, corrupt law enforcement, and insurrectionists.

Time to disband them, and let Biden replace every officer now employed. No pensions, no benefits. They committed felonies as a group. If this isn’t prosecuted, rule of law is also destroyed in America…thanks Trump. Worst, most criminal, deadliest, most disgraced ex president ever.

One more organization totally corrupted by Trump’s touch. Before Trump they were purely a-political and above reproach, now they are purely political and clearly thoroughly corrupt….just like the Supreme Court, no longer trustworthy and thoroughly corrupt.
Thanks Trump.

This does mean any story the committee comes up with can’t be contradicted. They can decide what to say, and the secret service can eat a bag of baby dicks in silence. This is part of why they didn’t force Trump’s secret service agent to testify, he wasn’t trustworthy, was a well known liar, and had been defying subpoenas for his documentation for months. Also, there’s little chance he would show, like the other co-conspirators. They all claimed they can’t wait to testify,then claim they just can’t do it for no valid reasons.



Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up…..

newtboy said:

Ruh roe….after being subpoenaed, the secret service now says they still have the text messages from Jan 5-6 that they previously told the committee were all erased permanently. Funny how the story changed 100% only AFTER they were subpoenaed. Not good for insurrectionists. Also horrific for the reputation of the secret service who now looks like a deep state political tool for Trump.

Undercover: EXPOSING MAGA Hypocrisy on Afghanistan

newtboy says...

Essentially-

Q: What do you think about Biden leaving innocent women, children, and allies to the Taliban.
A: It's inhuman, outrageous, a total failure of leadership and a serious dereliction of duty. Just disgusting.

Q: Should we be taking in those women, children, and allies as refugees?
A: Are you kidding me!? FUCK NO! They aren't European Christian Republicans, fuck em.

Typical.

Chicago Cop Abandons Woman Being Threatened With A Gun

newtboy says...

From what I read, even if you're correct about federal and state law (I'm not sure, but I hope you're wrong), most departments require officers to engage armed preps, not run, and that's why he will be fired. It's dereliction of duty. That might even negate immunity, lucky him no one was hurt to sue him personally for damages.

"There is a duty to protect and intervene. You have sworn and taken an oath of office, so you are required to do this.”
Thomas went on to say that most law enforcement agencies have a policy on cowardice in the line of duty, which could result in disciplinary action (being fired).

https://chicagocrusader.com/officer-abandons-black-woman-being-threatened-with-gun/

makach said:

I think the public has unreasonable expectations. In order for him to do his job he needs to protect himself. He is not there to protect you.

“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”
https://ehlinelaw.com/blog/do-police-have-a-duty-to-protect-me

Also: RadioLab No Special Duty - https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/no-special-duty

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

So...what aboutism is all you’ve got?...and you use examples of things your people did? You’ve lost your tiny little mind.

I, for one, was right here calling out the Boogaloo boys, militias, and proud boys for arsons, shootings, and bombings they committed in the name of BLM. Caught and admitted by dozens of y’all.

Stop the lies, bob. Not a single person identified is ANTIFA, they are all Trumptards like you, willing to make up any bullshit excuses to avoid responsibility for their terroristic riot and failed coup. So stupid, bold faced liar. You have no evidence, no proof, only lies and deflection, and a stupid lie that makes your ilk so stupid and weak they will follow their sworn enemies, hipster twig boys, into treasonous terrorism at the first opportunity.

Yes, planned by Trump. “Come Jan 6. It’s going to be wild.” “Gotta stop the steal. Cannot allow them to certify Biden or you’ll lose your country.” And in other speeches leading up to the Trump Coup attempt, “BLM and ANTIFA will come to your town, rape your women, and burn your homes. You’ve got to stop them. We won and they stole it from you.”

The pre-riot was planned to end minutes after the certification started to ensure the senate and VP would be there when the attack started....20 minutes walking distance or less away with instructions to walk there and stop them. Stop them or you’ve lost your country. That’s exactly what they did, in the only way possible.

The fact is Trump was planning this in October when he repeated “the only way I can lose is if they cheat and steal the election”. He never stopped telling his morons they were cheated and their country is lost if they don’t use extreme methods to overturn a certified election, and on the 6th told them if they don’t stop the certification, it’s over, they lose the country and freedom and become slaves to BLM and ANTIFA. The only possible way to stop it was by force, months too late to stop it by voting, which many of those fucktards didn’t do anyway because Trump convinced them it was rigged so why bother.

Impeachment will fail because Republicans put party and one person above the country, constitution, democracy, truth, and reason, not because Trump didn’t incite a riot, not because he didn’t ignore his duty to stop the riot he instigated.

Trump has divided more Americans than any group or person in history, getting your ilk to turn on the media in favor of pure baseless propaganda is only one part of Trump’s plan to divide America....his most successful plan. This is straight out of the dictators handbook.

When will you learn that the liar who tried a violent coup is not a patriot anymore than the magamorons who attacked the country on the 6th at his direction and with his blessing?

Can you explain why it took him >4 hours to tell his followers to stop the attack and leave...but not until he knew the targets had been evacuated? Can you explain why, as he watched his mob hunting elected officials on live TV, he tweeted that Pence was a traitor? Can you explain why, if they weren’t there at his direction, they all said they were? Can you explain why, if they weren’t following his directions, they did leave immediately when he told them to? Can you explain why, as he watched the capitol and police overrun and violently attacked for hours, he never called the national guard or other backup in? (That alone is a gross dereliction of duty even if you convince yourself he has no culpability for creating the vote fraud lie, ramping it up for months enraging his base, and holding a stop the steal rally on the day of certification minutes away from congress ending by sending the seething armed group there with his promise to March with them to stop the certification....that alone is a violation of his oath of office, that alone is impeachable.)

Edit: Can you explain why Trump refused to pay respects to the officer his Magaterrorists murdered trying to save Trump’s job?

🤦‍♂️

bobknight33 said:

Where were you last 4 years asking for peace from the BLM, ANTIFA riots, burning looting, killings?

The Capitol incident was bad, Why as ANTIFA members dressed as trump supporters there? What were their role? Invoke incite, participate, encourage.

This incident was planed weeks before Trump speech even started. Also the incident started shortly Trump started his speech and that crowd was 20+ minutes away from the Capitol.



Fact is Media wants to hand this on Trump.
Impeachment will fail, Again!

When will you learn that the Media has divided Americans more than any other group or person.

Congress Under Armed Attack Live Stream

newtboy says...

Not correct.
They used metal barricades to hit police in the face many times. One of the two arrested so far was arrested for repeatedly punching a cop in the face, I think hospitalizing him.
They also sprayed police with pepper spray/mace repeatedly.
I just saw video of a lone officer being chased up a stairway by a group of men and he gets his baton out, not his taser or gun.

Edit: one cop has now died from injuries received from rioters. Over 60 were injured.

Not to mention all the felony destruction of federal property the police made no moves to stop, or that carrying a firearm in the building is a felony that many were committing, or the pipe bombs and molotovs they left behind. Edit: now there’s word that top secret documents and a laptop with more state secrets were stolen.

The only rational explanation for totally insufficient preparations and/or the inhuman restraint is the capitol police were complicit.

Edit: It has now been verified that the Capitol police refused an offer of thousands of extra officers and refused national guard help with the coming Jan 6 riots days earlier, knowing full well that thousands of violent nut jobs were coming to get “wild” as Trump put it, many armed to the teeth and ready to force a “trial by combat”. Even after the armed rioting by the same group the night before, the capitol police still refused any help. They were definitely complicit here. The entire force should be investigated with any that helped prosecuted for dereliction of duty AND sedition....not just the chief, and not just fired. Prosecuted harshly and dumped in gen pop.

vil said:

The mob looked really crazy, attacked the police, but more verbally than physically, and if physically more just pushing them around than throwing things or hitting cops with them. Not even a good hockey fight. But still they stormed the building. Something aint right.

Notre Dame Faculty Pens Open Letter To Delay Hearings

newtboy says...

I think it was more because Moscow Mitch made it clear was serious that he wasn't holding any confirmation hearings for Obama by not even hearing Merrick Garland, actually a republican pick, that he wasn't going to consider anyone Obama put forth.

The politics of "because I can", not serving the country or even his party, just his own animus.

This precedent is going to backfire big-time if, as appears likely, dems take the Whitehouse and Senate. Adding ten seats to the supreme court and filling them with far left activist judges might happen just because they can, and that's the standard now.

For all intents and purposes his powers are revoked when the Senate is only interested in obstructionism, like today's that won't consider bills and revels in their nickname "the chamber of death, where bills go to die".

The "lame duck" ploy was just pure "because we can"ism. No legal precedent, actually a dereliction of duty by congress ignoring what the constitution says they shall do. I sure as Fuck hope dems grow a spine and ignore all right wing arguments as they have ignored democrats, and play the politics of "because we can" through October 2024, then write an amendment to stop more...like capping the supreme court at 19 forever and other instances where because I can-ism can override patriotism. If they don't exercise their power to the fullest, ignoring any attempt to reach across the aisle or compromising to get some bypartisanism in the next two years at a minimum (assuming they win), they'll deserve to be discarded.

Mordhaus said:

He chose not to. I can only assume because there was a conservative majority in the Senate.

He had the option. If there had been a Democrat majority, the person could have been confirmed even after Trump won the election.

Just because a sitting President is in Lame Duck status, it does not mean his powers are revoked. Some choose not to do anything after the election and that is their option.

The Walk.

newtboy says...

Not strictly, as I pointed out in multiple ways.
Do you contradict anything I said, or are you switching to a constitutional interpretation discussion to avoid it?

If they don't, he vetos, back to square one. It's happened, but it's rightly seen as a total lack of governance and dereliction of duty by congress to not negotiate and pass a budget that will be signed, so become law. Not sure that's possible anymore, the negotiating with the president part I mean.

They can, if 2/3 of them are willing to push it through twice.....good luck with that anymore.

We were discussing veto, and overriding vetoes.

Not the timeline I recall, but I'm not willing to dispute it.
Did you note how often the Obama administration complained that investigations into Burisma and it's founder were dropped, they never tried to stop an investigation. Did you note Biden wanted Shoken out because he shelved investigations into Burisma and Mykola Zlochevskiy ? Did you note that the UK found nothing illegal when they investigated?

Did you note that Hunter was hired before the investigations (by corrupt Russian prosecutors, btw) mentioned in the article had started, so couldn't have been hired to get them stopped? Impossible according to that timeline.
Did you note there was never any hint that he tried to stop any investigation?
At the time he was hired, there was no investigation to stop....and if he was hired to get American help with future investigations that backfired badly because we went after investigators that DIDN'T investigate or dropped cases, not ones that made cases or investigated thoroughly.


Most importantly, did you notice that there was NEVER any investigation into HUNTER for Biden to try and stop, as is the claim. None at all. Nada.

scheherazade said:

The constitution puts purse authority strictly in the hands of congress. Congress can pass any budget it pleases.
Reviewing any budget submitted by the president is a courtesy, not a requirement.

Actually, congress can pass laws that require (or forbid) the president to do things.

I am not discussing veto. I only mention it as one of the few presidential powers - and that I'm glad he has it, as it means less laws on average.

edit, According to this timeline, Hunter was working there since April 2014, in time for all the investigations.
https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/

-scheherazade

Buffalo Police Push 75 Year Old To The Concrete

newtboy says...

WTF?!?
The entire crowd control unit quit...but are all still employed as police?!?
So cops can now just refuse their assignments with no consequences?

Every single one who quit this assignment needs to be fired, and their past arrests need to be thoroughly investigated, since they ALL quit solely because their blatant lies weren't believed. This leads to the logical conclusion that they all routinely lie in their incident reports, hiding their violent assaults, claiming their victims "tripped and fell" while never speaking up against the officers who pushed them forcefully causing the trip and fall. Without this video the victim would be charged with obstruction if not assault on a police officer.
If the only evidence is a cop's word, there's less than zero evidence. They lie far more often than not.

Not a single 1/2 decent cop in the gang, they all tried to hide this, every single one of them. Toss them all for dereliction of duty and failure to report criminal violence. These are EXACTLY the kind of cops that need to go. Unfortunately, that's going to leave some departments completely empty.

Loose Cannon | 1994 Fairchild Air Force Base B-52 Crash

newtboy says...

$7500 for dereliction of duty that killed an entire flight crew and an expensive aircraft?! Colonel Pellerin and the rest of the officers involved should be indentured servants with no pay until they pay off the price of the plane (so for life), and be in prison for the length of time he stole from those flight crew's lives....they should definitely be forced to hand their pension over to their victims and lose their rank if there was such a thing as military justice.
I'm more than a little surprised no one killed that show off in self defense....the next time a pilot takes his bomber to 3', eject him.

Family Forgives 911 Operator Who Told Caller to Shut Up

newtboy says...

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Please tell me she's been fired and barred from being a dispatch operator for life, even prosecuted for gross dereliction of duty leading to a death.

Oregon Republicans Flee State To Obstruct Legislation

Delaware State Trooper Pulls Gun on Black Man For Speeding

BSR says...

I consider you my friend. I can't stop you from letting you get away with abuse which makes you derelict to yourself, family and others. That must be your choice. You've already implied you're hopeless.

"I believed in good cops for quite a while, and couldn't find them, that why I stopped believing."

That only tells me one thing. You don't believe how powerful you really are.

A loaded gun in the hands of a child can be devastating because the child doesn't know the power of the gun.

You have talent. I think you are a great writer.

Don't use disappearing ink.

newtboy said:

Cool, nice, or fun are not the same as good, that's why the words are spelled and pronounced differently.

And I was clear, 1000 good deeds don't erase letting your friend get away with abuse, and when it's your job to stop abuse that makes you derelict in your duty.

Try again.

Delaware State Trooper Pulls Gun on Black Man For Speeding

USPS Worker Caught On Camera Tossing Packages Out Of Truck

newtboy says...

Since when does the post office deliver on Sunday? In my area, they want to cancel Saturday deliveries.
I hope this guy is fired by now with no pension. There's no legitimate excuse for such insane dereliction of his duties.
I also hope Amazon takes note and limits it's use of USPS.



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