You're massively oversimplifying things again. Where is your crumple zone math? Where is your math showing how much force is imparted into pushing the car in front forward based on whether it has it's brakes on, is still moving, etc, etc, etc.

Your personal experience is not extraordinary. I have been in accidents, I didn't bother to bring it up because it doesn't mean anything.

I'm not arguing that higher G forces don't correlate with more severe injuries, that's not the point . The point is that CSI injury is very complex, complexities that can cause severe injury with minor force in situations like.. a rollover.

from the report you mentioned,

"The partial rollover presents an additional injury risk beyond what the standard crash test criteria are intended to measure"

You might want to watch all those videos again.

Hitting a parked car at 60km/h and not rolling would be a clearly better outcome. The parked car is not a solid wall, it cannot bring you to a "dead stop".

Hitting a barrier and rolling is clearly worse than hitting the same barrier and sliding along it, "bouncing" off it, spinning etc even if you're clipped by another car. Again even with the sharp swerve into the barrier it would never have been a "dead stop"

Hitting the car in front which has suddenly braked would be far better than a high speed roll even if the car behind proceeds to rear end you. The closest to your "dead stop" scenario and still far better than a high speed roll.

I'm arguing with you because you often backup what you're saying with demonstrable facts, in this case you're not. You're ignoring variables, using differing experience to draw conclusions and dismissing the severity of something based on your controlled personal experience of it.

"Citation? Physics. acceleration = Δv/Δt. Larger injuries come from higher g forces."

Has nothing to do with studies in vehicular CSI. I asked for a citation relating to maximum force/time being a primary factor in vehicular CSI not a physics equation and a stunningly simplified opinion. Again this is the shit I'm arguing with you about.

We have already established your experience differs from this in that there was no impact causing the roll.

citation for maximum/force time being a primary factor in vehicular CSI .

You're also making the assumption that the roll doesn't send you roof first into oncoming traffic, telephone pole, tree, parked car, building or whatever.

We saw a rollover on here recently that was the result of a pit maneuver where the driver died. Guess that wasn't an easy flop for him.

It kind of bothered me for a while that I enjoyed this show and people interpreted it so literally. From what I remember reading the producer was actually a hardcore conservative.

But then I realised people also watch CSI and begin to assume that forensic evidence is irrefutable. Or that criminal defence attorneys are always the bad guys.

Turns out people are just morons.

Wait... my wife sent me this video -- fucking biiii... I mean -- freaking biscuits. Those darned biscuits and stuff. I'm sorry, honey bunny. Please don't murder me in my sleep, kthanx. You know, you been watching all that NCIS and CSI and Bones and Poirot and Midsomer Murders and old reruns of Columbo and Perry Mason and Murder Sheee -- OH MY GOD, MY WIFE IS GOING TO KILL ME

Quick! Someone CSI this image! Magnify, reverse, enhance, the image in the cornea and we'll know what that eye was looking at.

The Revolution is definitely coming and I'll be there day one.

You do mean, "The Revolution", that new open-world, sandbox video game coming out at the holidays?

Yeah, that looks totally bloody and realistic. Too bad it's a console exclusive. That's cool though because I just got my tablet PC and there's so many games and movies on there I spend like 6 hours a day just getting through the free stuff. It's like almost another full time job just getting through my entertainment library!!!!

Wait! Sometimes the government just gets me SOOO angry!

Holy cow! Speaking of, has anyone been watching shark week? What is up with Animal Planet and their fake Megalodon documentary? That channel used to be totally awesome for vegging out and watching educational programming.

Speaking of....MARIJUANA IS LEGAL IN MY STATE!!! Woohoooo! I can't believe it's taken this long for people to come to their senses...

Wait, what were we talking about? Recording stuff.

TOTALLY!!! My new cable DVR holds so many hours of HD recording it's insane! I've got, like, every CSI episode broadcast since March on there and still only 1/3 full.

....

Revolution maybe, public uprising in the US? ...never.

>implying this is significant
>implying this is only pertaining to THIS particular date

protip: no one cares

at least my post wasn't some dribble you hacked up between youtube videos. I actually watched the video and applied basic knowledge. Hell I don't even watch CSI and I figured this shit out.

please walk into traffic sir

I find it interesting that just after the Boston Bombings, two men in similar circumstances were arrested in Canada for plotting to bomb a commuter train. The arrests were without incident and happened after several months of surveillance. Presumably the timing was due to a concern over the possibility that Boston might embolden the Canadian terrorists.

The interesting side-note is that police and CSIS were aware of the men because several Muslims who knew the men were concerned that the men had become radicalized.

I wonder, would the Boston bombers have been caught earlier if not for the draconian measures police regularly resort to, including ethnic profiling and harassment of Muslim men and women. Would someone from that community have come forward with information if they weren't afraid of the police? The iron fist plays well to the American psyche, but is it simply counterproductive?

What???? How could you possibly have discovered my Masturbatorium/Torture Chamber from that single photo? DAMN YOU CSI TECHNOLOGY!!!

Look at all the naysayers who can't fathom how a system COULD work. It's called imagination and engineering, kids. Go ahead and laugh at CSI now..

http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/02/02/0027200/light-field-photography-is-the-new-path-to-3-d

Someone bit off more than they could chew.
*OWWW* CSI: Miami Intro!!

Great video, terrible VideoSift title.
Not at all a CSI parody.