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Grreta Thunberg's Speech to World Leaders at UN

newtboy says...

Ahhh....but bankrupting the global economy isn't the only way to plan for asteroids, now is it? What we have done is put some money towards developing solutions that could be implemented in time, with minor exceptions for super fast unknown asteroids we likely couldn't do much about if we did have a planetary defense system. What we haven't done is just say "It not certain we'll be hit, so wait until it's a certainty to make any preparations."

In this case, the probability of disastrous climate change is near 100% if you take historic human behavior into account. For many it's already hit. It's only the severity and speed that are in question, and those estimates rise alarmingly with every bit of data we use to replace guesses in the equations. We aren't just driving our Cadillac off the cliff, we're accelerating as if we hope to jump the canyon. Even Evil couldn't pull that off with a rocket.

bcglorf said:

@newtboy,
" Sane policy makers DO assume the absolute worst modeled outcome"

Here we disagree. When you have a high degree of unknowns in your modelling, you don't always just go off the worst case. Let me argue from the extreme to demonstrate that in principle.

If we are looking to mitigate the risk of an extinction level asteroid strike, we don't solely look at the worst case. The worst case is at a minimum assuming another KT extinction level asteroid out there on it's way to us. Space is big enough that it's still possible one is out there undetected on it's way here in our lifetimes. The probability of that may be low, but it's still a worst case not impossible outcome.

With that known worst case, should we bankrupt the global economy building either a defensive capability to detect and destroy/redirect it, or the capability to abandon the planet in our lifetimes because of this worst case risk?

The answer to me is of course not, you must ALSO take into account other variables like the probability of it happening, the unknowns in the equation that prevent us picturing the problem with full accuracy, and other factors.

Man shows impressive barehanded grip on South African cliff

BSR says...

You would respect him more if you knew he was really trying to pull the cliff back down into the ground. I mean, come on, this guy never quits!

serosmeg said:

How interesting! This guy is cool and has my respect.

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Anthropocene: The Human Epoch (Trailer)

BSR says...

Well, all of us can't be shot to death or die in an auto or plane crash or drowning or stabbing or overdosing or neglect or hunger or animal attacks or electrocution or tornados or hurricanes or earthquakes or falling off a cliff or...


oblio70 said:

Koyaanisqatsi just got real.

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BSR says...

Sorry, didn't mean to make it private.

Well, all of us can't be shot to death or die in an auto or plane crash or drowning or stabbing or overdosing or neglect or hunger or animal attacks or electrocution or tornados or hurricanes or earthquakes or falling off a cliff or...


oblio70 said:

Koyaanisqatsi just got real.

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Hope Walks On A Glass Floor

Payback says...

I'm almost certain she can detect the glass. I doubt it's a cliff she sees, more like a large pool of water.
Something she should be cautious of, not terrified.
Thinking all cliffs now must be plate glass isn't Golden Lab level intelligence, that's like POTUS level.

SFOGuy said:

Precisely; you would want her to default to stopping at the edge of any apparent cliff.
Why train that away???

Hope Walks On A Glass Floor

SFOGuy says...

Precisely; you would want her to default to stopping at the edge of any apparent cliff.
Why train that away???

surfingyt said:

seems like her first instincts would be correct and you would not want to train that out of her

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12 dogs and a deer fall off a cliff during a hunt

CNN Red Pills itself. The Economy is GREAT.

newtboy says...

So wrong, try research. Wikipedia has all this information easily available.
Obama turned it around 180 degrees from the Republican's path of doom we were on at -2.8% GDP up to 2.5% in only one year, and eventually hit a yearly 2.9% gdp, that took time and Herculean effort against obstructionist Republicans who's only job from before he was sworn in was making him a one term president by obstructing him, a job they failed.
Trump started with a strong economy of at least 2.3% growth and a complicit congress, and GDP growth is actually STILL much lower than under Obama. Trump has coasted fairly flatly which is better than expected, Obama deftly turned us around from the cliff Bush was driving off. Obama had a positive swing of 5.1%, expectations are a 3.1% GDP growth for 2018, a positive swing of .8%, and that's expected to drop .5% for the next two years.

5.1% upswing >.8% upswing. Trump is limping along, Obama stopped the Republican crash AND did better overall. I wish you wouldn't spout such nonsense.

bobknight33 said:

Obama slow walked the economy to his pre-election levels. Trump stomped on the gas peddle.

Brett Kavanaugh Is a Terrible Judge & a Liar...

newtboy says...

No Bob. That's just a lie.

Only one account refutes Ford's testimony, that's Kavanaugh's. Many refute his.

Up to 16 others (your number, not mine) have said they didn't see him do that, and some of them said it's not consistent with his character as they know him. That is not refuting anything, it's saying they don't know, and some saying they don't believe it.
No one besides Kavanaugh and his drunkard friend could possibly know it didn't happen, because they were the only ones involved. That's the point of shoving her into an upstairs bedroom, so others don't see it.
We have no idea what his drunkard friend told the FBI, if anything.

He clearly lied under oath about his drinking, and displayed a temperament wholly unsuitable for any judge, yet every brain dead (they aren't actually conservatives) right winger is in hog heaven to confirm him anyway simply because he's anti choice and clearly prepared to be a Trump loyal right wing political activist from the bench.
Trump loves him because he's also (now) anti presidential prosecution (especially odd since he apparently zealously worked for years to prosecute Clinton while he was in office).

Worst is the ridiculous whining of "delay" by the same people who delayed the last appointment almost a full year in order to outright steal it from Obama, not for any cause at all. You people are such hypocritical infantile crybabies, were I Spartan I would toss you all from a cliff before you reach childhood.

bobknight33 said:

Every account refutes Fords testimony .. Yet every leftest liberal in in hog heaven to derail his nomination --

17 people say nope did not happen and 1 say it did.

Award winning teacher Kerstin Westcott's resignation speech

In Nepal, waterfalls are roads

eric3579 says...

This is the Besisahar-Chamé Road( https://goo.gl/SeMX4Q ) in the Manang District of Nepal.

When i was traveling in Nepal (over 20 yrs ago) I took a bus from Kathmandu to Pokhara on a then dirt road that had crazy cliffs and no guard rails at all. We also road on top of the bus with the luggage on the trip back to Kathmandu. It's crazy how close they had to drive to the cliffs edge. Looking at the road now, on google maps, it seems quite harmless as it's all paved.



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