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Titties are not Pockets

BSR says...

I remember waaayy back in the 50's, my mother sitting on the couch and picking me up to dress me. She had me stand on her lap so she could put my shirt on. As I was facing her I noticed her cleavage from a point of view that I had never noticed before.

I remember taking my finger and poked it in her cleavage and asked her "What's this hole for?"

She lightly slapped my hand away and simply said, "Not for you."

The Best Of Conan Guests

moonsammy says...

I love that last part for the added reason of how she complains (?) about Conan checking out her cleavage, then immediately flips back the one chunk of hair which was partially obstructing the view. Probably an unconscious action, but I found it funny.

Farscape John and Aeryn #15 Moment

BSR says...

Oh, you'd probably say that about the Mona Lisa too. What would it take, more cleavage?

newtboy said:

I forgot about this show, and really wanted to Upvote the clip....but just can't. With all there was to see in that show, nothing more than two humans slowly kissing is really disappointing to me.

Boob Apron (Cami Secret Parody)

ulysses1904 says...

I had forgotten about this clip, made me bust out laughing again.

On a related note, I'm always puzzled by some office receptionists who leave the house in the morning obviously showing a lot of cleavage. But when you stand there talking to them they then make a big haughty display of covering up by pulling both sides of their sweater across their chest. WTF? Still beats the boob apron though.

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Woman calls 911 for help, is accused of DUI and Groped

aaronfr says...

I didn't see any groping, or actually any contact with the his hand to her breast. He had a flat, open palm the entire time and was using his thumb to check for any objects in the bra/cleavage.

I get that she was caught off-guard by the search and the officer should have explained what he was doing before beginning. This might also have been a wrongful arrest and unconstitutional search, but there is no video evidence that this is sexual assault.

newtboy said:

not a grab and rotate.

Reactions to Meteorologist That Was Told To Cover Up On Air

newtboy says...

You have got to be F*ing kidding me.
Who the hell thought that was inappropriate? Why? Because it showed shoulders? There was no cleavage, no midriff, no upper thigh, no ass hanging out...what could they possibly be complaining about? Did she need to be wearing a burka in their eyes?
There was absolutely nothing inappropriate about her dress, and to capitulate on air to some (likely hyper-religious) idiots that complained is horrendous of the management. Whoever made this decision should be fired.

Big Boobs Problems

newtboy says...

Um...yeah, but women's clothing comes designed for their body type. How about buy clothes that fit, they exist. How about not put on a sausage casing then complain that it's a sausage casing!
That can be an issue with off the rack clothes, but she's never worn those in her life! She buys expensive clothing, clearly, and can buy it to fit, and can buy some that covers her up if she wants, and still be fitting. She may have to shop to find them, but she shouldn't pretend those clothes don't exist.
I accuse her of being pathological because she continuously demonstrates clothing that exposes her cleavage to the maximum, the entire time complaining that 'oh my god, people look at my enormous, exposed cleavage'. It's a bit like the guy from Cameo complaining someone's looking at his enormous fire engine red, studded leather cod piece.

00Scud00 said:

Or, the clothing is tight because most of it was designed for people with much less up there than she has. It sounds like she has a similar problem that fat people probably have, only it's just one part of her body.
I wonder if part of the problem is that to get enough material to cover those fun bags means the rest of you looks like you're wearing a circus tent.
So it seems a bit unfair to accuse her of having a pathological need to show off her tits when pretty much nothing short of a portable sports dome will ever really conceal those twin death stars.

Big Boobs Problems

newtboy says...

Nope. not HER difficulty in buying a sports bra.
"There's no way it's going to be cute (she says as she pulls it down to expose cleavage)...and fit....and get the job done."
What SHE'S complaining about is all about showing off.

And the problem of men staring AT YOUR CLEAVAGE goes away if you don't EXPOSE YOUR CLEAVAGE! Imagine that!
Perhaps many still look at your boobs, but men look at boobs, large or small. That's why they came up with 'Curves'. It's not only an issue for brick houses.

nanrod said:

I thought that for some but not all. The difficulty in buying sports and regular bras has nothing to do with showing off. And the problem of people staring at the gym does not go away even if you completely cover up.

Big Boobs Problems

newtboy says...

Every problem she mentions stems from her pathological NEED to show off as much of her boobs as possible in the tightest clothing they'll squeeze into. Absolutely zero sympathy for her, because she causes all these problems, all of which are easily solved by NOT needing to show off as much cleavage as possible at all times. Note, her problem with sports bras are they don't show off her cleavage.

I think she also intentionally ignored the other enormous 'up side' of big boobs, she never has to pay for anything.

Selfie from hell

GoPro Hero 4 Session

Watch German official squirm when confronted with Greece

radx says...

Depends on what their goal is.

If they aim, as some suggested, to change the Zeitgeist before they even attempt to change the politics, a stone mason's approach might be the only option they have: working the cleavage between pro- and anti-austerity players. Getting Schäuble and Dieselboom to play hardball, publicly, puts those two at odds with significant elements within France.

Then again, might as well be a combination of inexperience and a shitty hand. Time will tell...

oritteropo said:

Hmm... in that case their optimism seems more like delusion.

Colbert interviews Anita Sarkeesian

SDGundamX says...

I thought the solution was rather obvious, actually.

You fix things by making games where people are portrayed as... people. Not trophies to be acquired, not sexual objects to be drooled over, and not stereotypes.

You couple that with continued criticism of games that continue to rely on sexist, racist, or homophobic tropes.

And guess what? That's already happening. People have been saying that games need to change for a while before Sarkeesian showed up. Bioware acknowledged the issues and started trying to include more realistic characters in its RPGs years ago--and caught flak for it even back then.

To address your other... points?

My daughter asked me the other day why she can't play as the princess in Super Mario Galaxy 2 (or any of the other Mario games we own). And I had to tell her it's because the Princess got kidnapped. Her response was to ask if she could play as the Princess once we freed her from Bowser. And I had to tell her no.

There is something wrong with that!

After having that conversation with my daughter I fired up Torchlight, where I'm currently playing as a Vanquisher. Vanquisher's are rogue-like ranged characters and can only be female. If you want to be a warrior ("Destroyer" in game terms) or magic user ("Alchemist" in game terms), sorry--it's a men's only club. And not only that, but Vanquisher's--regardless of the armor they wear, must bare their midriff and wearing a mini-skirt showing lots of leg and cleavage (do a google image search for Torchlight Vanquisher to see what I'm talking about). Apparently you can't be a Vanquisher without being a sex pot too.

There is something wrong with that! (To be fair, they got better with Torchlight II and allowed any class to be any gender and allowed the women to cover up with armor OR choose to be sexy).

Society doesn't just change by itself. You're right, society is becoming more accepting of diversity--because people are fighting very hard for it.

Take America's attitude towards homosexuality. Look at the strides made in the last 20 years. That didn't just magically happen. There were TV shows that portrayed homosexuals as human beings worthy of respect. There were lawsuits. There were marches and protests. There were speeches. There were YouTube campaigns like "It gets better." A lot of people worked fucking hard to get the message out that bigotry is not okay.

Look, I'm sorry people pointing out to you how fucked up it is how women are sometimes portrayed in games is somehow ruining your ability to enjoy games. But there are serious problems here. Maybe not problems for you, but problems for people like my daughter.

The solution to these problems is not to lambast the people pointing them out. Nor is the solution to sit back and do nothing and hope it all works out for the best. One solution, as I've already stated, is to be openly critical of the messages contained in ALL media (including games). Another solution is to be vocal about the need for more realistic and diverse portrayals of people in ALL media (including games).

You can still have your Damsel/Dude in Distress trope, by the way. I have no doubt lazy developers will continue to use it as a substitute for meaningful story. Just don't expect people not to call out the utter absurdity of it, is all I'm saying.

Asmo said:

Yes, she's great at pointing that out.

What's the solution?

Quota's of protagonists sex? Replacing "damsel" with "prince" in distress? Getting rid of chainmail bikinis?

Oh, and how do we propagate that to the entire entertainment industry?

There is nothing wrong with playing a prince and rescuing a princess. There is nothing wrong with the princess being helpless. There is nothing wrong with Femmeshep kicking the shit out of the reapers and saving every being in the known universe, one of the most badass female protagonists around. More female protagonists = great, bring it on, but that's no reason to throw out a trope as old as time (incidentally, a trope enjoyed by a great many women who like to watch sappy romances where the charming fellow rescues the woman from her crappy life...).

Her series predicates on the concept that players are too fucking dumb to understand the difference between real life and the game. That if you play Duke Nukem, you'll walk around slapping girls tits and saying the most inappropriate things you can think of.

It's exactly the same tripe that Jack Thompson was peddling back in the day, games change how you think. And, for most people (ie. the mentally stable...), it was wrong then and it's wrong now. Your upbringing and parental guidance, and the relationship your male role models have with women, are far more likely to determine whether or not a man is likely to be sexist/misogynist than a few games with scantily clad girls needing a big strong man to save them... Society has changed to become more accepting of race, creed, sexual orientation and, of course, women, and it will continue to become so even if the old trope of the princess is in another castle hangs around. It may take generations before inequality dies out, if it ever does. It's not something you can fix by complaining about games.



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