The outcome was astonishing, even i couldn't believe it and i've been campaigning for it since 2015. All of this might be out of date 3 hours after i post it, because things are happening fast.

Theresa May has decided to go into government with the DUP propping her up. If you have kept up in the last 6 weeks or so with all the smears about Corbyn/IRA/Sinn Fein and terrorism, then you should understand that the DUP is basically the *other* side of the irish conflict. They are socially conservative and many of their beliefs fall in line with sharia laws; abortion illegal (including for sexual assault or incest cases), homophobia wrong and harmful to society, creationist beliefs, climate change deniers. That list might have less impact to some in the US but in British politics, it's out there on the fringe, quite extreme.

In a month from tomorrow there will be the July marches in Northern Ireland (and elsewhere in UK), and we already saw a march yesterday where unionists (~DUP supporters) trashed a nationalist pub (~Sinn Fein supporters).

So now consider. Nationalists have been dragged through the dirt by Conservative MPs and in the press; accused of being terrorists in order to smear Corbyn to stop him getting power. Whereas unionists are being courted by the Conservative government, and the press turning a blind eye to the DUP and their connections to domestic terrorism.

The northern irish peace process was a great achievement and still stands despite bad feeling on both sides. Part of the good friday agreement that ensures this peace says that the UK and Irish governments must act as neutral mediators in times of disagreement between factions in NI.

So now it becomes clear why Jeremy Corbyn refused to criticise either the unionists or the nationalists in particular - as a true leader with a fucking brain in his head, he understood that to take sides or score points would be to risk Britain's safety and the safety of communities in NI. The reason people were able to smear him as a terrorist sympathiser and danger to this country is *because* he refused to say or do anything that endangered this country.

And it becomes rather worrying that the tories have risked all of that hard work and all of our safety in order to keep power for just a little bit longer. There are already talks of a legal challenge from nationalists.

The good side to this is that it seems doomed to failure. May's credibility is broken, in the UK and in Europe. The alliance with the DUP almost certainly can't happen or last very long. The only alternative leaders to May would make the Conservatives less popular. Polls that saw this surge coming are predicting now that Labour would do even better if another election happened right now. The last time this happened was Ted Heath, whose minority government did not last long, and Labour took over after a few days, and won an election a few months later.

Austerity is well and truly broken as an ideology.

Oh, and all the talk of "the death of social democracy" in europe was actually the death of triangulating centrists who have become completely alienated from ordinary people. Socialism lives.

He's been under intense and frankly ridiculous scrutiny these first few weeks, with the most obvious of smear campaigns, negative phrasing and negative reporting by supposedly unbiased sources. I can only hope it will fade as time goes by and other parties (especially the incumbent one) make their inevitable blunders. However, the smear campaign will not stop.

The question is, have enough people had enough of the same old establishment nonsense? Have enough people begun to see through biased mainstream news? It's hard to see how he could win 2020 for me right now, even though i staunchly supported and promoted him. We needed a figure like him in British politics and i think he has had a huge impact on our politics since being elected already. I think we needed him to change the argument even if he can't win, though i think a decade of socialism would be very good for us.

@VoodooV far be it from me to side with choggie, but he's spot on about major political parties being "the same." Even with 3-4 parties to choose from in Britain, what we actually get is a change of figurehead. What we refer to as "democracy" in both our countries is not fit for purpose and does not represent the best interests of the people.

There's a wonderful indictment of British politics that i've seen floating around. It shows the political debate over changes to the welfare system and the chamber is empty save for 5-6 people. The debate about proposed increases to MP's pay shows a picture of an utterly packed house. That's a modern politician.

Here

Love this guy, wish we had someone like him in British politics but more to the point I wish he hadn't resigned.

I thought British politics were full of vile, repulsive, intellectually bankrupt old trolls, baby boomers clinging on to life like a barnacle. Then I moved to Australia. Wow.

It's like Howard Beale meets a Shepard Fairey poster meets protest.

It's subversively delicious.

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>> ^dannym3141:
Wikipedia will settle this argument!
Damn, they're unclear. Apparently -um was what the guy who invented it stated, but -ium was demanded by the science posse cos it had a more classical sound despite the existence of platinum etc.
Seems like major science bodies tried to enforce -ium as the norm, then accepted -um as an alternative, but -ium seems to be favoured.
The i's have it on the left! (of the u)
That's a british politics joke, a really bad one.


Haha! Been there too, classic case of the American language having a mind of it's own

Wikipedia will settle this argument!

Damn, they're unclear. Apparently -um was what the guy who invented it stated, but -ium was demanded by the science posse cos it had a more classical sound despite the existence of platinum etc.

Seems like major science bodies tried to enforce -ium as the norm, then accepted -um as an alternative, but -ium seems to be favoured.

The i's have it on the left! (of the u)

That's a british politics joke, a really bad one.

Fucking labour and conservatives.. what's the phrase, giant douche or a shit sandwich? We'll need another couple of alternatives to cover all bases.

God i hate british politics. Biggest bunch of public schoolboys masonic handshaking each other up the echelons of the westminster clique i have ever had the misfortune to be governed by.

And when i say governed, i mean they have habitually and with regularity stolen from me, treated me like a blind fool, lied to me, and allowed my country to turn into a pile of shit.

I swear to god if i could find it i'd sift it. A video of some tory CUNT being the latest bastard to get caught stealing under the guise of 'expenses claim' to have his fucking moat cleaned, or a floating duck island put in his mini-lake.

His response to having been caught red handed? "It's jealousy. Nothing but jealous! I have an excedingly large house and these people are simply jealous."

When i saw that on the news, it brought my piss to a boil - i nearly ripped open my shirt hulk hogan style and turned my street into a crater.

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Pretty much a dupe of this, but good try though!

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Mark Thomas is a British political activist and comedian: he's the original Ali G, as he was the first - before Sacha Baron Cohen; who was obviously inspired by his work (and toned down his politics). I highly recommend any of the Mark Thomas Comedy Product series (or his one offs like Mark Thomas: Weapons Inspector) as he's the rare type of comedian who can communicate the bland bullshit of intricate politics in a hilarious (yet slightly depressing) way - like a later British Bill Hicks.

TORTURE AT GITMO?

Yesterday we told you that the U.N. Human Rights Commission had made a finding [pdf] that the United States was using "torture" at the detainee center at the Guantanamo naval base in Cuba. Now .. are we talking about driving wood splinters up under fingernails? No. What about breaking fingers or toes? Nope. Not that either. It seems that we were using light and temperature in naughty ways. How do you use light? You use light to keep people awake. That's torture. Gitmo is hot too. Maybe they denied the prisoners air conditioning. Would that be torture?

The word "torture" is no longer a word used to describe treatment of a prisoner. It is now a word used as a weapon against the United States and its efforts to fight Islamic radicals.

This morning I listened to Robin Oakley, the British political editor for CNN, talk about the findings of this phony UN body. Oakley said: "Now we're going to see pressure to have the U.S. close Guantanamo." So, what else is new? Oakley also mentioned the light and the temperature, but he never mentioned force feeding. That's right ... force-feeding One of the elements of torture mentioned by the U.N. at Guantanamo was the force-feeding of detainees who are un hunger strikes. So, according to the U.N., if a detainee tries to kill himself, and you take a measure to save his life, that constitutes torture.

Message: Don't take anything the U.N. or the U.N. Human Rights Commission has to say about torture seriously.

Via Boortz.com