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Code Pink protester Hit with Baton: BOOM HEADSHOT!

volumptuous says...

>> ^dannym3141:
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MGR is sometimes a little over macho, but he's by no means a brainless meat head.


I actually didn't think he was. Usually "brainless meat heads" have horrible grammar, or do the stupid ALL CAP THIGN.

But, the "bitch" comment about some little girl he doesn't know who was practicing her 1st amendment right, and the three references to assuming this girl was in the wrong, leads me to believe he's the 'shoot first, ask questions later' kind.

I don't ignore anyone. Well, except for those 9/11 Truther morons.

Code Pink protester Hit with Baton: BOOM HEADSHOT!

volumptuous says...

>> ^MarineGunrock:
Code Pink = bitch

No, it was just "Fuckin do it again"
"ho obviously from the video"
No, NOTHING is obvious from the video, other than confrontation. We can draw NO conclusions from this video as to what happened prior to the incident.


OK, it's become apparent that I shouldn't engage with you in any sort of discussion.

From your idiotic "bitch" comment, to your pseudo-macho screenname, you're obviously all for power-hungry cops beating the shit out of anyone who doesn't agree with your red-meat vision of this country.

And sorry dude, I have a full offline editing suite I'm sitting in right now. I cut and edit video for a living for the editors guild, and do this alllllll day long for 12 years. I know how to look at frames, I know how to study the shit out of them.

What is in this video is not open for debate. It is a little girl, four feet away from this cop, screaming "Don't fuckin' do it again", then suddenly and violently getting clothes-lined by him.

End of fucking story.

Code Pink protester Hit with Baton: BOOM HEADSHOT!

volumptuous says...

>> ^MarineGunrock:
The bitch screaming "Do it again" tells me we don't know enough of what is going on here.


She was saying "Don't fuckin' do it again".

The "bitch"?

See, this is what I was talking about. That comment is just too lame. Apparently, some people believe that it's ok for a riot-cop to clothes-line a small girl with a metal baton, who obviously from the video, was not "pushing him or hitting him".

Frame-step through the video, and you can clearly see she was at least 4 feet away from him.

And why would some code-pink girl be "hitting and pushing" a riot cop?

Dude, please.

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Ricochet bullet to the head, dude's OK

joedirt says...

B.S.!! I posted this same rembar factoid stuff THE FIRST TIME CRAPPY RETARDED VIDEO HIT THE QUEUE!

Use your wee little pee brains and count "Mississippi's" in this video. You think he can put the trigger and wait 2 seconds before the bullet magically hits the "dirt" and ricochets 90 degress right at dudes head. You find it odd the camera isn't setup on shooter AND target? You find it odd the dirt puff is perfectly framed to capture the BOOM headshot.


Ricochet bullet to the head, dude's OK

rembar says...

Fake this, trash that, ballistic calculations blah blah blah...you people are LAZY. This isn't Youtube, folks, do the math if you're gonna complain so much.

First of all, a quick Googling reveals this gem:
"6-27-07: BOOM HEADSHOT! This is amazing. Willie, the father of Tina, who made the sandbag rests fires a .50BMG, an Armalite AR-50 and it ricochets off of a steel plate that it should have easily penetrated. The bullet comes straight back and hits him in the head. You can see it hit the dirt about 15 feet in front on him before it clobbers him. Luckily he was uninjured. He's a bit sore today, but otherwise fine. Lucky lucky bastard. He has been advised to buy lottery tickets while he still has so much luck. I don't know about the timing, but you can hear the hit on the steel plate. Time that till the impact on Willie's head... how fast is that 750 grain slug traveling? The range is 100 yards. Amazing."

The time from the sound of the shot to the sound of the impact of the bullet on the target is used to calculate for the initial velocity (sound delay over distance accounted for). The speed of the projectile (I'm not ruling out the possibility of a piece of the target being the ricochet, not the bullet) on ricochet to the ground is taken from the time from the sound of the impact of the bullet on the target to the sound of the impact on the ground. The speed of the projectile on ricochet to the earmuff is taken from the time from the impact on the ground to the impact on the earmuff. (This last impact makes a rather significant change in energy loss.)

For the sake of better accuracy, I assumed that the range was NOT 100 yards and calculated distance instead assuming that the gun was an Armalite AR-50 (.50 BMG), 750 grain slug, and that certain ballistic statistics on the gun were reasonably accurate, and that the ricochet did not return straight back, then compared the expected and actual times between the round being fired, the impact on target, impact on dirt, and then impact on person.

Keep in mind that I am no expert on large-caliber rifles and these calculations are the result of about 5 minutes of thinking, but unless you're willing to properly time the sounds on a video editor, incorporate angling for the energy transfer calculations and cross-reference ballistics info on the AR-50, I'm the best you're gonna get, so piss off.

Bullet weight: 750 gr
Average muzzle velocity: 2620 ft/s
Average energy: 11420 ft*lbf

Distance to target: 362 ft
Muzzle velocity of shot: 2603 ft/s
Velocity of the projectile on impact to the ground: 271 ft/s
Velocity of the projectile on impact to the earmuff: 210 ft/s

Conclusion: Very possible, especially assuming the target was steel, as I quoted above, but contrary to what the guy in the video said.

For reference sake, this is less than the speed an average paintball will hit you at (I think 250-300 ft/s). In all likelihood, though, the projectile had enough speed and energy and pointy bits to seriously mess this guy up if he'd been hit straight on. Maybe there'd be enough pressure to penetrate, maybe not, but I'd bet he'd have a broken bone or two at the very least.

On a final note, ricochets do happen with metal targets, and not completely rarely either, thus the rules of gun safety. This guy should NOT have been shooting at a steel/iron target with a .50 caliber rifle at such a close distance (I've heard that .50 cals can hit targets a mile and a half out), although it seems like he was smart enough to be wearing eye protection. He made the assumption that the round would penetrate the target, and we've all heard what happens when you assume. Hell, I can't even think of a reason to OWN a .50 caliber, past a psychoanalysis to make Freud weep or dreams of zombie pandemics.

Anyways, lucky guy, one-in-a-million-chance, remember gun safety, and you're welcome.

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joedirt says...

I stand by the BOOM HEADSHOT.. only because it refers to what Farhad says, "the disassociation one has when playing war from 15,000 up in the air"

And for the record, only my tags are cynical (not the title)



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