Au contraire, a patriot would not enable the State by funding its superfluous wars, banksters, and State cronies.

A patriot would do what he can to starve the Leviathan monster, not continue to feed it.

A patriot would help productive fellow citizens avoid the State's plunder altogether.

A patriot doesn't define "fair share" by whatever random numbers some self-serving politician and other government kleptocrats come up with. And only victims of the "public" education would think that patriotism is somehow equated with the desire to subject fellow citizens to such arbitrary theft extorted through violence or the threat thereof.

@Shepppard
ah...my young friend.
come over by the fire,your buddy enoch has some things to speak to you about.
are you comfy?
need a drink? beer? coffee?

then let us begin.

1.why do YOU care what another makes an hour?is it YOUR business?

but i understand the basic gist of your point:unskilled labor.

ok.thats a fair point.
but why is 15$ an hr too high?
what arbitrary scale are you comparing their hourly worth to?
walmart workers?

here is a facts that may give you some perspective:
a.if we take the minimum wage from 1978 and factor in inflation and worker productivity todays minimum should average 22$ an hour (yes...you read that right).
b.the workers in these unskilled jobs are in the high percentages in goverment subsidies.to the tune of 7 BILLION a year.so basically we ALL are subsidizing mcdonalds and walmart to pay their workers like shit.

so are you still against them getting a living wage? when you and i are subsidizing their income. the companies they work for get to pocket those profits,you and i get to help pay for their housing and food stamps.

walmart even helps ttheir employees sign up for food stamps! now isnt that adorable.

dont you think it a better idea that these companies pay their help at least enough where they dont need government susbizies? you know.like actually PAY them and not force us to?

2.if these corporations paid a minimum of 15$ an hr the projected hike in product prices will be......./drum roll.....
...........15 cents per item.........

3.how come it appears to be taboo to point to a CEO of a company who is making billions in bonuses while his/her workers are having to receive food stamps?
when did obscene gluttony and greed become something cool? even praiseworthy? while ridiculing those trying to survive and demanding a little bit of dignity as something to be chastised and cajoled for even having the impertinence to ask for a living wage.

the cognitive dissonance on display is on an epic scale.

who do YOU think you have more in common with?
the dude working at your local burger king?
or jamie dimon?

and dont even get me started on that condescending argument "get an education to get a better job".

i have been seeing many posts of late that reflect the very same flavor of yours @Shepppard and the one thing they all have in common is this judgemental value system that they just pulled out of their ass but in reality was given to them by the very people fucking them,and their children in the ass.

there will come a day when these people will realize they are slaves.
debt slaves.
wage slaves.
and while they were bickering the banksters and the corporate elite cleaned their clock.....
and they didnt notice until it was too late.

those elite fuckers.
they have a small club and you aint in it.
they dont like you.
they will never like you.
me?
im on your side man.

"Rich Man's World (1%)"

[Arthur Jensen:]
"You get up and howl about america and democracy.
There is no america there is no democracy,
We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies.
The world is a college of corporations... inexorably
Determined by the... immutable bylaws of business.
The world is a business.
And I have chosen you to preach this evangel"

[Immortal Technqiue:]
For all my free market, healthcare robbing, stock stealing, retirement fund
Fucking with niggas. Fuck your little credit card scammin, jewlery stealing,
Crack selling, liquor store robbing mother fuckers (Its a rich mans world)
Hahahaha. Shout to the homies, Carnegie, OG, Willie Randolf Hearst,
Rockefeller, the real Rockefeller, my main bitch Leona, pour out a little Louie the
Thirteenth, Jack Abramoff, hold ya head, my Rothschild niggas, LET'S
GET THIS MONEY

[Verse 1: Immortal Technique]
I spend my day repping america overseas
Pensions for the workers? nigga please
Embezzlement etiquette private settlement
I'm better with confederate rhetoric from my mansion in connecticut
Foreclose and evict homes at the tenement
I twist words like a speech inpedIment
I hope you got good credit bitch
If not better get a new job with benefits
When I play golf with niggasii get cheddar with
New money buys brand new karats
My old money bought your great grand parents
You got grills in ya mouth I ain't mad at ya
I own every gold mine in South Africa
Thanks baby you made me a billion
Plus I own a building for each one of my children's children
That's the shit, snort coke in the whip miss USA sucking my dick
Yea what fuck the law 'cus real jail is for suckas
I go to country club prison you dumb mother fuckers
(I am the 1% fucking bitch)

[Hook]
You know my CEO corporate steeez please
Overthrow governments overseas in a breeze
Politicians in my pocket for a few hundred Gs
So if I'm never in court my assets a never freeze

[Verse 2: Immortal Technique]
I got a job and house and a bank account
When I'm out I doubt that's something you could say
And if not then I fake death like Kenneth Lay
Make money every day the world burns
Wanna tax us while y'all struggle to pay taxes
I'm getting my money the fastest
Memos and faxes shredded up documents
Slush funds through the corrupt continents
But they don't want me indicted
'Cause they don't want my dirty laundry aired when I fight it
Don't get my lawyers excited
'Cause what good is a law if you can't rewrite it
I got CIA traders, dictators so fuck y'all whistleblowers and haters
(Its a rich mans world) Shiiieeeaaat
I'll invest money from Al Qaeda
In the bank 911 widows go to later
Capitalism so I pray to fuck the state of the world
Money talks so what the fuck I need to say to ya girl
(I don't pay em to fuck, I pay em to leave)

[Hook]
You know my CEO corporate steeez greed
I'll treat countries like the IMF down on your knees
Real gangsters run the world fuck what you believe
I'll cut down the forest while y'all niggas burning some trees
I'll get your family murdered for a couple of Gs
'Cause your working class money ain't fucking with me
You think rappers are rich 'cause of songs you heard?
My labels make the money and haven't rapped a fucking word

[Verse 3: Immortal Technique]
Y'all in the ocean coastin' with the sails out
Hey America thanks for the bailouts
I made off at the banco ambrosiano
Got away scott free like el Vaticano
Acitvists activist get mad at me
'Cause I'm a tax free charity
80% to the staff and company
And 20% to the homeless and hungry
The country gotta pay the fed reserve
Kick back to the banksters haven't you learned
You protest cops or patrols on the street
But I bought city hall so I own the police
Email facebook and the shit you tweet
On the phone companies so I heard you speaking
My suggestion is no correction no elections, sex with no affection
No invention would benefit the world of man
Will exist till I got the money in my hand
World bank, interest rate damn rape on the spot
But I'm a gangster you gon' take my money like it or not, nigga
(I got your country in my pocket, motherfucker!)

[Hook]
You know my CEO masonic steeez cheese
Only little people pay all these taxes and fees
Since you were born we controlled what you watch and you read
And pretty soon were gonna own the fucking air that you breathe
I take what I want fucker I don't have to say please
I'll convince you that it's good for you, take it and leave
You think presidents are the face of a nation
I put em all where they are, end of the conversation

Hahaha

@ChaosEngine @Grimm @Yogi @cosmovitelli @radx

At this point, best I can do is withdraw my consent from the entire system. I refuse to organize against the governing forces since I have no intention of serving as a martyr. I'll help those who ask for help, but those who support or even fight for the governing forces don't want help and I therefore have no interest in helping them.

At this point mostly everyone at all levels is part of a machine that's gone out of anyone's "control." Obama doesn't control things. The banksters don't control things. The thing now just runs on its own accord, and will continue to do so for as long as enough people still continue to give their consent or are beneficiaries of it. This shitshow will contiue until it collapses from its own weight.

@Grimm's comment gives the banksters far more credit than they deserve.

And @ChaosEngine wants to give the money to the government. That way, you'll never see it again.

He did pay a price. He lost all his trophies that he won, to me that is the price you pay for cheating in a sport. A sport, that doesn't fucking matter. Yet we bring athletes in front of a Senate commission, and when they lie we try to throw them in jail? What happens when a President lies? What happens when a General lies? What happens when a Bankster lies?

You see this is the problem I have, people are disproportionately passionate about Armstrong or Barry Bonds cheating at a sport. Yet when people do serious harm in the world, kill people or risk the continuation of our species, nothing significant happens.

So no I don't give a shit, Armstrong did nothing wrong. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't poison the planet, he didn't throw children out on the streets to be homeless. He won some stupid little jerseys, and people care more about that then their own lives. It's pathetic, we deserve our fate.

Dear @dystopianfuturetoday @Deadrisenmortal @Ryjkyj and @kymbos

Please stop being asshats.

This is clearly a very intelligent little girl.

Assuming she doesn't know what she's speaking about just because you couldn't grasp a topic "this complex" when you were 12, belittles that intelligence.

While her parents may have piqued her interest in this topic...
the basic concept of "wait, so banksters create money from thin air? but if we do, it's illegal?" is a fairly easy dichotomy to grasp. Even for a 12 year old person.

I was 12 was G.W. Bush was elected. I remember thinking how much of moron he was and how the election had to be rigged because there's no way someone that stupid was deserving of that position.

I think the biggest factor you're forgetting is: This young person has access to google & wikipedia i.e. the entire fountain of human knowledge & history at her finger tips.

If you're 12, you probably have a shit ton of questions about the world.
If you have interest enough and google, you can educate yourself on any term or concept or complex system in maybe.. 45 seconds.

So please, recognize and acknowledge this girl's intelligence.

Recognize that she [like I and millions of other young people] had a simple epiphany about how the "real world" works, that lead her to educate herself on the relevant subject out of a simple sense of justice and indignation.

TL;DR

Give this girl credit. Even a 12 year old can see how unjust our banking/business culture is.
She's had a "wtf" moment and access to google.

Sure he would. This whole video is him speculating that Carolyn Maloney will be the Democratic Party's ranking member in the finance committee, because that's who the banksters want.

And then he spends 5 minutes crowing about how right he is because an article got published in a newspaper that pretty clearly indicated banksters like her. So what? Only crazy Republicans think the newspapers work for the Democratic party.

Plus, every quote he took from the article was sourced to someone on Wall Street's side. Where's a source from, say, someone in the Democratic party who's part of the decision-making process? Nowhere to be found in Cenk's piece. But, in the article he's sourcing all this from, there's this:

“For Nancy Pelosi, Maxine is a three-fer,” said one congressional staffer, noting that it will be Ms. Pelosi who ultimately makes the determination if Democrats retake control. “She is a fellow Californian, she is an African-American woman, and it is her turn.”

And this:

“A lot of folks in the CBC [Congressional Black Caucus] would not look too kindly on an outside challenge,” said one Capitol Hill lobbyist. “They want to go back to the seniority system.”

And this:

For her part, Ms. Waters seems confident her long service will carry her through. “Let me let you in on a secret: I am the senior-most person serving on the Financial Services Committee,” she told the 2012 California State Democratic Convention last month. “Barney Frank is about to retire, and guess who’s shaking in their boots? The too-big-to-fail banks and financial institutions and all of Wall Street because Maxine Waters is going to be the next chair of the Financial Services Committee.”

Oh, so Nancy Pelosi, the CBC, and Maxine herself all think she's a lock? Well, that would kinda undercut Cenk's anti-Democratic spin, so he doesn't mention any of that.

Cenk's whole show seemed to just be a vehicle for bashing Democrats, often for things they aren't actually guilty of doing. Like...this whole thing about Carolyn Maloney, which is 100% speculation!

At this point he honestly seems to me like some sort of Karl Rove creation designed to depress Democratic turnout and liberal activism.

>> ^messenger:

Cenk would only say that Waters had sold out to the banks if it were demonstrably true. He's big on backing up his statements with facts. He would never just speculate that she "must have" sold out.

very instructive article.

But, my belief that these technocrats only serve whatever political dogma that serves the greedy banksters... is only strengthened by stuff like this.

I would like to send stuff like this to my friends, but they are all completely un-interested in these kinds of technical arguments.

anyhow I blogged that on my tumblr blog. thanks again!


In reply to this comment by GeeSussFreeK:
sigh

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/inside-fed-2006-coming-crisis-12420769
1.html

"Banksters." That's very clever, apt. Did he coin that?

Around 2m he says "...the banksters and their bought-off Republican members of congress..."

To me this seems like the same back and forth. It should be clear to most people at this point that both parties are entirely at fault. Not saying this guy is wrong, but as soon as someone in the media labels one group over another as faulty or responsible for the overall mess, it's not getting anyone in the US anywhere. It's just the same runaround they've used for years, with a new frantically, soon-to-be-out-of-a-job scapegoat.

Sadly the last two minutes says otherwise. >> ^Trancecoach:

another feel-good news story about charmed banksters getting their just desserts.

another feel-good news story about charmed banksters getting their just desserts.

>> ^deathcow:

This is a bit anemic, but an awesome idea. They've had their media engine for many years, and put absolute tripe out to brainwash the masses. Turn the tables on em.


Yeah, I wish they had put a little more in this.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^ghark:
Organic food
Feed the hungry
Punish those that created the problems
Deal with Monsanto
Stop the fake 'wars' (on drugs for example)
Doesn't seem crazy to me?
I used to really hate her with a passion, I thought her show was atrocious, but she makes real sense here, certainly a lot more than any 'mainstream' American politician I've heard recently. Good luck to her!

You thought "Roseanne" was atrocious? Get the fuck out of my country!