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The Hero of Canton: The Folk Hero Jayne Cobb (Firefly)

Ballad of Jayne

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The Hero of Canton: The Folk Hero Jayne Cobb (Firefly)

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DerHasisttot says...

>> ^oritteropo:

Have you ever read any old or middle English? I studied "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight", which is middle English, but old English should be a bit closer to Frisian... which as I read it would be about as far from swabian as you can get?
In reply to this comment by DerHasisttot:
Hehe. I had to think about it for a second before I knew what he meant with "gopfertamti." A northern german would have been unlikely to understand the phrase, but my dialect (swabian) and his dialect (high alemannic) are related: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alemannic_German (It's funny to hear french people from the Alsace with a related dialect in a different language.)
That's also why you can't get a translation from the internet, it's more of a dialect than a variant.
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I've onyl read ballads and such from these periods, I can read middle english Ok, old english: Not really, only if I really get into it and learn some symbols again. Reading frisian is far easier than understanding it by hearing, the same probably goes for swabian. Most of the times you just have to shift some different sounds to certain letters and you've got an approximation of a more standard german.
The northern german intonation (of their dialect) however is hell for me to understand, that's completely different, as you said. Swabian is spoken more softly and sonorant in the back of the throat, whereas northern german sounds 'headier' and nasal to me.

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oritteropo says...

Interesting You know, your visit could well have coincided with the time frame I was talking about listening to "And the band played..." in music class. I'm not entirely sure why the band played Waltzing Matilda (but that link might have some clues). In 1918 the real Australian anthem was "God save the King", our current one wasn't chosen until 1974, but I think Matilda has always been popular. The link to Gallipoli is interesting too. After the war, Mustafa Kemal, who had been commander of the Turkish forces on the day of the invasion wrote a tribute to the Australian troops quoted at the Australian war memorial's web site, http://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/ataturk.asp

"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well."

P.S. I got side tracked and forgot that I meant to send you a link to "I was only 19", another sad Australian ballad about returned soldiers.
In reply to this comment by AdrianBlack:
I've known it was sort of the un-official national anthem for Australia since I was little (I was there when I was 9yrs old), so I guess I've always heard it in an Australian voice.
I also had a music box as a child that had Waltzing Matilda as it's song.

How well known it is to others, I don't know. I always seem to be the one that collects odd little facts.

Lol, nice accent, btw.

Cheerio!


oritteropo (Member Profile)

AdrianBlack says...

I've known it was sort of the un-official national anthem for Australia since I was little (I was there when I was 9yrs old), so I guess I've always heard it in an Australian voice.
I also had a music box as a child that had Waltzing Matilda as it's song.

How well known it is to others, I don't know. I always seem to be the one that collects odd little facts.

Lol, nice accent, btw.

Cheerio!

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
(clears throat, puts on posh British accent) Oh, how embarrasing! I've been caught commiting an Australianism!

How well known is that ballad in your parts? I remember listening to it in primary school music class, many moons ago :, so it hadn't really crossed my mind that it might've had much exposure outside Australia... and yet here's an Irish cover and you seem more familiar with another version.
In reply to this comment by AdrianBlack:
I have always loved story songs/ballads. That was fun to hear in an Irish accent!

Thank you, btw! Tis what I do. *grins*

sunnies....cute.



AdrianBlack (Member Profile)

oritteropo says...

(clears throat, puts on posh British accent) Oh, how embarrasing! I've been caught commiting an Australianism!

How well known is that ballad in your parts? I remember listening to it in primary school music class, many moons ago , so it hadn't really crossed my mind that it might've had much exposure outside Australia... and yet here's an Irish cover and you seem more familiar with another version.
In reply to this comment by AdrianBlack:
I have always loved story songs/ballads. That was fun to hear in an Irish accent!

Thank you, btw! Tis what I do. *grins*

sunnies....cute.


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The Decemberists- The Rake's Song and Hazards of Love 3

ctrlaltbleach says...

The whole album is one long narrative. The Rakes song is told from the perspective of one of the villains.

Taken from wiki:

The Hazards of Love is a rock opera, with all songs contributing to a unified narrative, similar to the use of recurring stories in The Crane Wife. The plot is a love story: a woman named Margaret (voiced by Stark) falls in love with a shape-shifting boreal forest dweller named William (voiced by Meloy). William's mother, a jealous fairy queen (voiced by Worden) and the villainous Rake (also voiced by Meloy) bring conflict to the album's story arc.[2]
>> ^bareboards2:

I just spent 15 minutes trying to discover if this song was a traditional folk ballad -- "murder ballad" is the type of song, I discovered.
Nope. Just a masterful modern evocation of an old tradition.
Chilling.

The Decemberists- The Rake's Song and Hazards of Love 3

bareboards2 says...

I just spent 15 minutes trying to discover if this song was a traditional folk ballad -- "murder ballad" is the type of song, I discovered.

Nope. Just a masterful modern evocation of an old tradition.

Chilling.



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