-Honest- debate is vital at this time, same as it has been at everytime, and when I see another posting that is designed to simply get a visceral reaction, as you put it, it doesn't matter what the content is. It just brings the collective down. Honest debate happens when you bring ideas to the table and you are ready and willing to defend them, and at the end of the day you are willing to agree to disagree. You cannot argue on emotion, you need to have and present facts.

Postings of "X being stuipid", or "Y gets pwned by Z" or "Q thinks the camera's not on" is not honest, or bold, it's puerile. I've learned that lesson already, and it's not hard to figure out what the poster's intent was, otherwise it wouldn't have been done that way in the first place. It's not about the content, it's about sitting back and laughing at the target because the poster has already told you what the outcome is. It's like declareing the defendant guilty before the trial and the trial is simply a show to see how the conclusion was reached.

Nobody likes an honest debate more then I do, but I do not suffer fools lightly. If you're going to challenge an idea, you better be able to provide an alternative. If you're going to critizice a policy, then you better have another solution. If you're going to show me a graphic montage of photos with an alternative rock band playing in the background, it's not going to impress me.

An alternative–rock song written by Australian singer-songwriter Nick Cave for Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds's ninth album Murder Ballads (1996).

Cave was inspired to write "Where the Wild Roses Grow" after listening to the traditional song, "The Willow Garden", a tale of a man courting a woman and killing her while they are out together.