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NORAD on 9/11: What was the U.S. military doing that day?

marbles says...

From www.washingtonsblog.com:

... Dick Cheney was in charge of all counter-terrorism exercises, activities and responses on 9/11. See this Department of State announcement; this CNN article; and this essay.

In fact, 5 war games were scheduled for 9/11, including games that included the insertion of false radar blips onto air traffic contollers’ screens. Specifically, on the very morning of September 11th, five war games and terror drills were being conducted by several U.S. defense agencies, including one “live fly” exercise using REAL planes.

Then-Acting Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Force General Richard B. Myers, admitted to 4 of the war games in congressional testimony — see transcript here or http://www.spiegltech.com/media/McKinney2.rm">video here (6 minutes and 12 seconds into the video).

Norad had run drills for several years of planes being used as weapons against the World Trade Center and other U.S. high-profile buildings, and “numerous types of civilian and military aircraft were used as mock hijacked aircraft”. In other words, drills using REAL AIRCRAFT simulating terrorist attacks crashing jets into buildings, including the twin towers, were run. See also http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/Contingency_Planning_Photos.html">official military website showing 2000 military drill, using miniatures, involving a plane crashing into the Pentagon.

Indeed, a former Los Angeles police department investigator, whose newsletter is read by 45 members of congress, both the house and senate intelligence committees, and professors at more than 40 universities around the world, claims that he obtained an on-the-record confirmation from NORAD that on 9/11, NORAD and the Joint Chiefs of Staff were conducting a joint, live-fly, hijack exercise which involved government-operated aircraft posing as hijacked airliners.

On September 11th, the government also happened to be running a simulation of a plane crashing into a building.

In addition, a December 9, 2001 Toronto Star article (pay-per-view; reprinted here), stated that “Operation Northern Vigilance is called off. Any simulated information, what’s known as an ‘inject,’ is purged from the screens”. This indicates that there were false radar blips inserted onto air traffic controllers’ screens as part of the war game exercises.

Moreover, there are indications that some of the major war games previously scheduled for October 2001 were moved up to September 11th by persons unknown.

Now here’s where it gets interesting … Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta testified to the 9/11 Commission:

“During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President … the plane is 50 miles out…the plane is 30 miles out….and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president “do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?”

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y]

(this testimony is confirmed here and here).

So even if 9/11 wasn’t foreseeable before 9/11, it was foreseeable to Dick Cheney – who had been attacking democracy for nearly 40 years – as the plane was still 50 miles away from the Pentagon.

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Jet blast destroying a van

ant says...

>> ^Opus_Moderandi:

>> ^ant:
>> ^Opus_Moderandi:
We have a training video at work that shows a pickup truck driven into the jetblast stream, blows it right off the ramp and into a river... way cool.

Training for what? Airport workers?

yup, part of our job involves driving tugs out on the ramp so, they want to make us aware of the danger of driving behind an aircraft. I'd still like to experience me some wake turbulence...


Ahhh! Cool.

Jet blast destroying a van

Opus_Moderandi says...

>> ^ant:

>> ^Opus_Moderandi:
We have a training video at work that shows a pickup truck driven into the jetblast stream, blows it right off the ramp and into a river... way cool.

Training for what? Airport workers?


yup, part of our job involves driving tugs out on the ramp so, they want to make us aware of the danger of driving behind an aircraft. I'd still like to experience me some wake turbulence...

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Air Traffic Control in 3-D (Pushing Tin movie) (51s)

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Tags for this video have been changed from 'planes, airports' to 'planes, airports, air traffic control, john cusack' - edited by kronosposeidon

Airspace Rebooted (Air Traffic after Volcano Eruption)

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Tags for this video have been changed from 'eyjafjallajokull, volcano eruption, visualization, air traffic control' to 'eyjafjallajokull, volcano eruption, visualization, air traffic control, map' - edited by calvados

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Child Directs Planes From JFK Airport

Skeeve says...

I absolutely agree.

It's not like this kid was alone and actually directing airplanes, he was saying into a microphone what a qualified air traffic controller was telling him to say.

Just like a cop letting a kid play with his car's siren or a firefighter letting a kid into the firetruck this guy was giving his kid a memory he'll likely cherish for the rest of his life. Give him a break.
>> ^jiyanibi:
Bad judgement? Maybe. But I just don't get the outrage I'm hearing from people today on this topic. In all likelihood, some air traffic controller let his kid sit on his lap and either read from a script or whispered to tell him what to say. I see no more harm done here than if the controller was speaking through a voice box to change his pitch to sound like a kid. The kid is just a vehicle for the message between the controller and the pilot. It's not like he's telling the kid how to perform brain surgery here. And, if anything, the pilots clearly displayed no outrage knowing that the parent wouldn't let the child do something if he thought there was any danger involved. Oh well, agree to disagree, I suppose.

Child Directs Planes From JFK Airport

jiyanibi says...

Bad judgement? Maybe. But I just don't get the outrage I'm hearing from people today on this topic. In all likelihood, some air traffic controller let his kid sit on his lap and either read from a script or whispered to tell him what to say. I see no more harm done here than if the controller was speaking through a voice box to change his pitch to sound like a kid. The kid is just a vehicle for the message between the controller and the pilot. It's not like he's telling the kid how to perform brain surgery here. And, if anything, the pilots clearly displayed no outrage knowing that the parent wouldn't let the child do something if he thought there was any danger involved. Oh well, agree to disagree, I suppose.

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Pentagon Investigation Evidence Contradicts Official Story

bmacs27 says...

I think this site provides a good debunking of this video. What I like about it specifically is that it's from a known figure within the "truther" movement. What he's insinuating is that the "magic show" theorists such as CIT are likely paid to discredit any call for more information, and provide a distraction from more pressing questions about more plausible scenarios.

Specifically he asks:
* How was it possible that the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began?

* Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just over 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation’s capital?

* Why did F-16s fail to protect Washington on 9/11? Was the Langley emergency response sabotaged?

* Why did Flight 77 hit a part of the building opposite from the high command and mostly empty and under renovation, with majority of victims being civilian accountants?

* Why were Pentagon workers not evacuated or warned that Flight 77 was approaching, despite those in the bunker tracking the attack plane as it closed the final 50 miles to the Pentagon?

* How could Flight 77 have been piloted through its extreme aerobatic final maneuvers by Hani Hanjour, a failed Cessna pilot who had never flown a jet?

* Why did the flight instructor who certified Hani Hanjour, a former Israeli paratrooper, disappear a few days after his 9/11 Commission interview?

* Why was a war game drill used to vacate the National Reconnaissance Office for the duration of the attack?

* How was a C-130 pilot able to intercept the plane incoming to the Pentagon while NORAD was not?

* Did the Pentagon, the nerve center of the US military, really have no missile or anti-aircraft defenses?

* What were Vice-president Cheney’s orders when Norman Mineta described him speaking to a young man in the presidential bunker as the plane approached, saying, “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?

For a conspiracy moderate like myself, these questions deserve addressing. Particularly questions about how a plane was allowed to reach the pentagon in the first place. Any politician claiming to be "tough on security" ought to be able to answer for how, on his watch, a commercial airliner piloted by an untrained pilot was able to strike the nerve center of the US military almost an hour after we had already been attacked.

If nothing more nefarious, Dick Cheney should have been indicted for gross negligence on that day.

Video Of Helicopter/Plane Crashing Midair Over Hudson River



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