I just found this site, but they have some funky embed. Any way to fix it or pressure them to get us usable embeds?
http://engineeringtv.com/blogs/etv/archive/2008/06/24/berkeley-aerobotics-uav-fleet.aspx

Dupe: http://military.videosift.com/video/Russian-MIG-shoots-down-a-Georgian-UAV

>> ^calvados:
For some reason I'm reminded of this:
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Mormon-Twins-Burn-Rubber

The Mormons have got Mig 29s?

We're all fucked.

i don't remember the name of the programme let alone the link to the video in question any more but as moodonia pointed out it was said to be far less efficient than advertised - at least back in the first gulf war. but that was more than 15 years ago, maybe the later versions evolved past their shortcomings, you'd know that better than anyone here

just wondering if these babies really can perform, i guess. and, being expensive as they are, do you get to practice on "live targets", blowing up UAVs? or how ever that goes, some guy with an RC model...

quantummushroom, all you do constantly is regurgitate the same GOP arguements over and over again without analyzing your parties own actions within conflict resolution. I for one, fully support military incrusions to circumvent terrorist attacks, the strikes against Afghanistan were thus fully justified.

But why then were the following tactical errors made by the Right-wing goverment:

-Reduced Ground Force Depolyment In Afghanistan : We put less troops into Afghanistan then Iraq to find the number one enemy post 9/11, Osama Bin Laden and his cronies. There was an over reliance on the Northern Alliance, Air power and special forces. The administration had fully backed support from the international community and the american people.

-Overreliance On Technology : Afghanistan and Iraq are possible to decimate by area but impossible to conquer by technology. For all the smart guided misslies and UAVs we still face shortages in infantry armour and troop numbers as a whole.

-Disregard For Military Plans : Plans drawn up for a Post-war Iraq were discarded by the administration. No plans were drawn up resulting in chaos breaking out as the social structure of Iraq was taken apart.

Defending the country is something everyone believes in. But why support a defense that doesn't listen to it's own military? Why support Rumsfeld who was failed the people and administration as a whole countless times over?

Why do you never directly answer questions before jumping back to the same GOP trash line you hear all over right wing radio? You all sound like drones you know that?

so...who made this video? strange how they can get hold of the raw footage from the "filmcrew" AND the footage form the UAV...
I just saw http://videosift.com/story.php?id=7283

...it's hard to make up a my mind...

andrew, re: Jewish pop (from 2005)

Rank____Country______Jews_______%Jewish_____%Total_Pop
1 US 5,914,682 2% 40.5%
2 Israel 5,021,506 80% 34.4%
3 Russia 717,101 0.5% 4.91%
(Muslim population for US 2005 is 6.00 million at 2.11%) (another source puts it at 3.5% / 9,732,061)

1995 ABA estimated 1,000,000 lawyers and 2005 US BLS says 529,190 employed (it is *possible* that 1/10 American jews are indeed lawyers, but doubtful)

If the support of Israel is a Jewish-only thing, then I think the charitable donations from individuals and Jewish organizations more than covers it. "Today, it is estimated that these tax-deductible donations exceed $1.5 billion per year." The US is adding on $3-5 billion more per year.

Anyways, I don't think the 'jewish' population of 2% is the reason for so much money to Israel. I'm not wholly against it, I just find it completely moronic to say, Iran is supplying these missiles that go 30 miles, versus the US opening up their nuclear arsenal. (Plus Abrahams, F-16, Apaches, UAVs, etc.)