Well rougy,

Dutch 'liberal' here, not a Wilders fan.

The court case is completely ridiculous, of course he should be able to say what he wants, especially since he is a politician and has to be able to express things even if they defy laws (since politicians define laws), and because he represents a large constituency of Dutch voters (8 percent in last election, could be up to 30% according to some polls).

However, this speech, man he or his (famous) lawyer seemed to have cobbled together all divine phrases of free speech and wrapped them together in a nice little presentation. Anybody can put together a speech like this ("wasn't it Voltaire who said 'as much as I despise your opinion, I will defend your ability to speak it'" is a staple of such speeches, and no it wasn't Voltaire).
You must understand that Wilders' other thoughts include a tax of say (pinky to mouth) a thousand dollars per hijab (islam head scarf) to fix the economic crisis.

The situation on free speech in the Netherlands is super unclear. Because we are such a liberal free country, nobody really bothered/ bothers to ensure those rights are also legally documented. So on some fronts the freedoms of speech are very limited if prosecution occurs (almost yearly people are put in prison over making pretty tame references to the queen, giving somebody the finger is technically an offense).
In this particular case, the Dutch DOJ first decided not to sue, then some hippy who can't deal with anybody not agreeing him (Rene Danen) forces the DOJ to reconsider, if you read the verdict of that case you can see it is all about Nazi Germany references, a big no-no in the Netherlands (Wilders compares the Quran to Mein Kampf, as in both books that cause people to do bad things).

Anyway, this is just part of the whole Wilders big clown extravanganza show that is going on for years now. He is just making outregeous claims and getting in trouble everywhere to drum up support (actually I am most impressed by the way he does these things, as he does really little press or other public things yet gets the press to talk about him constantly). I think it is unclear what will happen if he gets into power (which probably won't happen all too soon, in part because of him the Dutch political landscape is superfragmented now, any coalition created in the next four years will be crazy enough without him in it).

A sweater, a nice nylon/polyester windbreaker, some t-shirts, socks (a large package from mom, a nice pair from my 5 YO son), a scarf (@thegrimsleeper I know, who wears scarves?), and other odds and ends.

A couple of DVDs a couple of t-shirts a sweater, shower gel and for some reason a scarf.

>> ^TheFreak:
Awesome. Notice how the news report of the incident conflicts with the actual video.
Apparently the folks with scarfs were "anti-war protesters dressed in anarchist garb" and that innocent detective "pulled back his jacket, exposing his service weapon [and] it's unclear if he did this intentionally". In fact, the only drawn gun mentioned in the article is the uniformed officer responding to a 911 call about an armed man.
Of course in the video you can clearly see a gun in the detectives hand.
You definitely have to commend the uniformed officers for their handling of this incident. That detective, on the other hand, should be crucified. Doubtful he'll even get a warning.


My point exactly, thank you. I forgot to mention the fact that the other officer could have killed the man for having a gun.

If I were put in that situation the detective would have been treated as a suspect, and handcuffed. Any one with a weapon is treated this way, because they are a threat to public safety, and you can never be sure that the detective isn't a fake. Sounds cliche, I know, but its just how it works.

The officers did not do their jobs in controlling the rogue man with a gun.

Conduct unbecoming.

Awesome. Notice how the news report of the incident conflicts with the actual video.

Apparently the folks with scarfs were "anti-war protesters dressed in anarchist garb" and that innocent detective "pulled back his jacket, exposing his service weapon [and] it's unclear if he did this intentionally". In fact, the only drawn gun mentioned in the article is the uniformed officer responding to a 911 call about an armed man.

Of course in the video you can clearly see a gun in the detectives hand.

You definitely have to commend the uniformed officers for their handling of this incident. That detective, on the other hand, should be crucified. Doubtful he'll even get a warning.

>> ^blankfist:
You see what I did just there? I took something terrible and upped the ante.
>> ^ReverendTed:
And here I thought you were going to say something about the secret ingredient in the Kung Pao chicken.
>> ^rottenseed:
...it's dog

Just keep telling yourself that, rottenseed - whatever helps you sleep at night.

But one day...one day Charlton Heston is going to show up in a scarf and open your eyes.

Rachel Ray, Dunkin Donuts, and one terrorist scarf would like to agree.

>> ^NetRunner:
Uhh, Republicans already use the Internet. That's where the last two big right-wing lies started (the "Obama is a Muslim" and "Obama wasn't born in the US" lies, specifically).
If you count Sarah Palin as an unemployed blogger, she's the one who really gave the "death panel" lie wings, just by posting about it on her Facebook page.
The problem Republicans have isn't the media they use to propagate their message, it's what that message is.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'pink floyd, the wall, roger waters, rasch edit please' to 'pink floyd, the wall, roger waters, gerald scarfe, alan parker, bob geldof, 80s, 1982' - edited by rasch187

I was going to say "nice scarf douchebag."

I was.... until his jacket lit up.

Nice jacket, douchebag.

CAIRO — Muslim shopkeepers, students and even radical groups such as Hamas praised President Barack Obama's address Thursday as a positive shift in U.S. attitude and tone. But Arabs and Muslims of all political stripes said they want him to turn his words into action _ particularly in standing up to Israel.

Obama impressed Muslims with his humility and respect and they were thrilled by his citing of Quranic verses. Aiming to repair ties with the Muslim world that had been strained under his predecessor George W. Bush, he opened with the traditional Arabic greeting "Assalamu Aleikum," which drew enthusiastic applause from his audience at Cairo University.

Even some extremist Web sites, which have carried statements from al-Qaida in the past, gave rare praise for Obama by calling him a "wise enemy." One posting on a chat room expressed admiration for Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton "wearing a head scarf ... and she and Obama taking off their shoes" during a visit to Cairo's Sultan Hassan mosque.

Mohammed Zakarneh, a 33-year-old former fugitive militant in the West Bank town of Jenin, said Obama's speech "planted seeds of hope in our hearts, as Arabs and Muslims."

Obama's address touched on many themes Muslims wanted to hear. He insisted Palestinians must have a state and said continued Israeli settlement in the West Bank is not legitimate. He assured them the U.S. would pull all it troops out of Iraq by 2012 and promised no permanent U.S. presence in Afghanistan.

I hate the current U.S. incarceration rate; too many people in prison.
I hate Donald Rumsfeld.
I hate college math prerequisites.
I hate mass ignorance.
I hate Osama Bin Laden.
I hate $60 eighths.
I hate processed food.
I hate sucka emcees.
I hate most people named 'Jason'; unless they go by a nickname or last name.
I hate STDs.
I hate Go-Bots.
I hate this scarf craze women are wearing these days.
I hate celebrity magazines.
I hate PG13.

What's with the Hamas scarf?

>> ^Smugglarn:
We have those "disenfranchised youths" in my country as well. Just as bad.
The left loves them though, since they function as their main voting machine/shock troops.


Gotta balance out the redneck, gun toting nutjobs that are all too excited to pay for their un-free freedom.

But, all jokes aside, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't actually believe what you just said.

I would have messed those guys up. They don't know how to fight, just bully innocent meek people with numbers and aggression. That's pretty sad.


>> ^Creature:
Wow, now I know, French gangstas dress like run of the mill Seattelites.
Gah...Did anyone else see how sloppily the kid in the white hoodie was wailing on the guy with the scarf and seriously want to kick him in his prepubescent gnads for his half-assed Star Trek punch alone? I hate it when random people get assaulted.


You get an upvote for referencing both Seattle and Star Trek. Well done.

>> ^osama1234:
I felt much worse for the guy on the left of the screen at 4:40, he got punched twice in the head for absolute no reason. (i know the others aren't justified, but this one was in plain view of the camera)


If you look closely, he throws out his leg and trips the guy, hence the punch.
I'm glad i don't live in Paris anymore...