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silvercord (Member Profile)

therealblankman says...

The croc was pretty cool. I might have upvoted if he'd succeeded in stealing dinner from those jerks .

I'm reminded of a story from a few years back. I live in Vancouver and have spent a lot of time out on the local waters and have experienced Killer whales close up on several occasions- once when out alone in a small 12 foot Laser sailing dinghy I was surrounded by a pod of a dozen or so VERY large whales- a little intimidating to be surrounded by those predators who are much bigger than me and the tiny boat I'm sitting in with my butt less then 3 inches from the water. They circled me several times, jumping and spy-hopping to check me out. One of the coolest experiences of my life. But I digress.

There had never been an attack by Killer whales in our waters on a boat or a person, until about 6 or 8 years ago. There was a graddad and grandson out salmon fishing in a small aluminum boat in the waters between Victoria and Vancouver. The grandson hooked a big Chinook and was reeling it in when a Killer whale, who was part of a pod in the area that was feeding on the salmon, decided he wanted that salmon that the kid had hooked. The whale nipped at the fish, taking about half of it off with a little bite, but the kid wasn't about to give in to the whale. He reeled in as quick as he could, the whole while with the whale trying to take the fish.

The kid actually managed to land the salmon, pissing off the whale in the process. The whale banged against the boat several times, nearly upsetting the little craft. Eventually he went away, I presume sulking the whole time.

I dunno, I think I would have let him have the fish.



In reply to this comment by silvercord:
No problems. People are barbaric. This was an example of that, I suppose. I was more interested in the brave croc that decided to stand up to all five of 'em to try and get a meal.

Thanks for the explanation, Blankman.



In reply to this comment by therealblankman:
Looking at my own comment on your video, I thought I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that, but it really made me angry watching this video and seeing a bunch of fat, rich, ignorant, over-priveleged jerks proving their "bravery" by killing a beautiful animal like that shark. It's exactly this BS that has driven all the great top predators of the world- lions, tigers, wolves and now sharks to the brink of, and sometimes past, extinction.

I might not have been so angry if I hadn't watched the documentary "Shark Water" a few days ago.

In reply to this comment by silvercord:
From Liveleak:

The video, posted last month by the Cape Don Barramundi fishing lodge in the Northern Territory, records an epic angling saga that pitched man against shark, shark against shark, crocodile against shark and, eventually, man against crocodile.

All appears to be going well when the clip begins, with one of the party land More..ing a fair-sized shark as he fishes off the side of a yacht. Things become more exciting when another shark swims in for an easy lunch, prompting the cameraman to note: "Oh! Another shark's attacking him!"

The valiant angler labours on, and before long the greedy interloper disappears and the thrashing shark is dragged on to the beach with the help of a boathook. But the triumph is short-lived. Within seconds the dark green outline of a saltwater crocodile appears at the water's edge and the reptile dashes on to the beach to make a grab for the shark.

Disaster is averted only by the swift intervention of another member of the fishing party, who leaps towards the thief and delivers a warning blow to its snout with the boathook. Suitably chastised, the croc turns tail and swims off.

The video ends with the slightly shaken group posing for a photo around the unfortunate shark. The man who landed it seems a little distracted and has to be reminded there is a protocol for such occasions. "You've got to do the old put-a-foot-on-its-head thing," the cameraman reminds him.

Crocodiles in the area appear to have realised it is often easier to let the humans do the work. Last November the Northern Territory News reported that a three-metre "saltie" spied on a group of fishermen before tucking into the shark they had just reeled in.

therealblankman (Member Profile)

silvercord says...

No problems. People are barbaric. This was an example of that, I suppose. I was more interested in the brave croc that decided to stand up to all five of 'em to try and get a meal.

Thanks for the explanation, Blankman.



In reply to this comment by therealblankman:
Looking at my own comment on your video, I thought I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that, but it really made me angry watching this video and seeing a bunch of fat, rich, ignorant, over-priveleged jerks proving their "bravery" by killing a beautiful animal like that shark. It's exactly this BS that has driven all the great top predators of the world- lions, tigers, wolves and now sharks to the brink of, and sometimes past, extinction.

I might not have been so angry if I hadn't watched the documentary "Shark Water" a few days ago.

In reply to this comment by silvercord:
From Liveleak:

The video, posted last month by the Cape Don Barramundi fishing lodge in the Northern Territory, records an epic angling saga that pitched man against shark, shark against shark, crocodile against shark and, eventually, man against crocodile.

All appears to be going well when the clip begins, with one of the party land More..ing a fair-sized shark as he fishes off the side of a yacht. Things become more exciting when another shark swims in for an easy lunch, prompting the cameraman to note: "Oh! Another shark's attacking him!"

The valiant angler labours on, and before long the greedy interloper disappears and the thrashing shark is dragged on to the beach with the help of a boathook. But the triumph is short-lived. Within seconds the dark green outline of a saltwater crocodile appears at the water's edge and the reptile dashes on to the beach to make a grab for the shark.

Disaster is averted only by the swift intervention of another member of the fishing party, who leaps towards the thief and delivers a warning blow to its snout with the boathook. Suitably chastised, the croc turns tail and swims off.

The video ends with the slightly shaken group posing for a photo around the unfortunate shark. The man who landed it seems a little distracted and has to be reminded there is a protocol for such occasions. "You've got to do the old put-a-foot-on-its-head thing," the cameraman reminds him.

Crocodiles in the area appear to have realised it is often easier to let the humans do the work. Last November the Northern Territory News reported that a three-metre "saltie" spied on a group of fishermen before tucking into the shark they had just reeled in.

silvercord (Member Profile)

therealblankman says...

Looking at my own comment on your video, I thought I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that, but it really made me angry watching this video and seeing a bunch of fat, rich, ignorant, over-priveleged jerks proving their "bravery" by killing a beautiful animal like that shark. It's exactly this BS that has driven all the great top predators of the world- lions, tigers, wolves and now sharks to the brink of, and sometimes past, extinction.

I might not have been so angry if I hadn't watched the documentary "Shark Water" a few days ago.

In reply to this comment by silvercord:
From Liveleak:

The video, posted last month by the Cape Don Barramundi fishing lodge in the Northern Territory, records an epic angling saga that pitched man against shark, shark against shark, crocodile against shark and, eventually, man against crocodile.

All appears to be going well when the clip begins, with one of the party land More..ing a fair-sized shark as he fishes off the side of a yacht. Things become more exciting when another shark swims in for an easy lunch, prompting the cameraman to note: "Oh! Another shark's attacking him!"

The valiant angler labours on, and before long the greedy interloper disappears and the thrashing shark is dragged on to the beach with the help of a boathook. But the triumph is short-lived. Within seconds the dark green outline of a saltwater crocodile appears at the water's edge and the reptile dashes on to the beach to make a grab for the shark.

Disaster is averted only by the swift intervention of another member of the fishing party, who leaps towards the thief and delivers a warning blow to its snout with the boathook. Suitably chastised, the croc turns tail and swims off.

The video ends with the slightly shaken group posing for a photo around the unfortunate shark. The man who landed it seems a little distracted and has to be reminded there is a protocol for such occasions. "You've got to do the old put-a-foot-on-its-head thing," the cameraman reminds him.

Crocodiles in the area appear to have realised it is often easier to let the humans do the work. Last November the Northern Territory News reported that a three-metre "saltie" spied on a group of fishermen before tucking into the shark they had just reeled in.

Man Vs. Shark Vs. Shark Vs. Crocodile Vs. Shark Vs. Man Vs.

silvercord says...

From Liveleak:

The video, posted last month by the Cape Don Barramundi fishing lodge in the Northern Territory, records an epic angling saga that pitched man against shark, shark against shark, crocodile against shark and, eventually, man against crocodile.

All appears to be going well when the clip begins, with one of the party land More..ing a fair-sized shark as he fishes off the side of a yacht. Things become more exciting when another shark swims in for an easy lunch, prompting the cameraman to note: "Oh! Another shark's attacking him!"

The valiant angler labours on, and before long the greedy interloper disappears and the thrashing shark is dragged on to the beach with the help of a boathook. But the triumph is short-lived. Within seconds the dark green outline of a saltwater crocodile appears at the water's edge and the reptile dashes on to the beach to make a grab for the shark.

Disaster is averted only by the swift intervention of another member of the fishing party, who leaps towards the thief and delivers a warning blow to its snout with the boathook. Suitably chastised, the croc turns tail and swims off.

The video ends with the slightly shaken group posing for a photo around the unfortunate shark. The man who landed it seems a little distracted and has to be reminded there is a protocol for such occasions. "You've got to do the old put-a-foot-on-its-head thing," the cameraman reminds him.

Crocodiles in the area appear to have realised it is often easier to let the humans do the work. Last November the Northern Territory News reported that a three-metre "saltie" spied on a group of fishermen before tucking into the shark they had just reeled in.

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rychan says...

>> ^mentality:
>> ^rychan:
yes, per mile a commercial airliner is safer, but that's a stupid statistic. Per mile being an astronaut is extraordinarily safe, but in actuality it's outrageously dangerous.

Say you're traveling from NYC to LA. You can either drive there, or you can fly there in one trip. Which is safer? Flying would be safer, because you have to physically cover the distance from point A to point B, and you said flying is safer according to distance.
A space shuttle "travels" many miles with respect to earth as it stays in orbit. Comparing the distance a shuttle "travels" to distance covered intentionally between two terrestrial locations is a stupid point to make.
I can tell you that water has a very low electrical conductivity, but you wouldn't want to get into a bathtub with a toaster -- and rightly so, because it turns out that the dissolved minerals in tap water raise its conductivity several orders of magnitude.
Guess what also tells you that getting into a bathtub with a toaster is dangerous because water with ions in it conducts? Science.
I really don't get the point that you're trying to make. Are you trying to say that the implementation of science is scary because statistics can be manipulated to show that cars are safer than planes or vice versa; or that a toaster in bathwater is bad? Or are you saying that applied science is scary because it cannot eliminate risk, only greatly reduce it? For example, your risk of dying from not performing the procedure would be far greater than the risk of dying from the anesthetics.


People don't think about distances when they step on a plane. They think "am I going to step off this plane alive?". The fact that the planes are covering more distance is as inconsequential as the spacecraft covering more distance. The fact that it would be even more dangerous to spend two full days driving the distance is inconsequential. They're stepping into a situation an order of magnitude more dangerous than when they step into their average car trip, so they're right to be scared. Of course, that fear is more based on lack of control and discomfort than statistics, but I hate people who try and calm you with statistics, because they're not strongly on the side of airplanes.

I'm saying science is great and reproducible, our human interface with science is often unreliable, because the real world and the human body have thousands of variables that science can't account for. And for that reason I'd be hesitant to test something like the Leidenfrost effect by dipping my hand in liquid Nitrogen (if I hadn't seen someone else do it, or maybe even then). Who knows, maybe if you sweat a lot and your skin is salty, if you have on nail polish, if you have on rings, etc... then something goes terribly wrong.

Jamaican Jerk Chicken recipe

therealblankman says...

Fellow in the video cooks in a low oven at 100C or 225F. It's even better cooked on the grill- use low heat and throw on some soaked wood chips for smoky goodness.

Recipe from foodjamaica.net:

INGREDIENTS: SPICY JERK SAUCE

* 1 big bunch of green onions or a couple smaller bunches
* 2 tbsp soy sauce
* 2 tbsp vegetable oil
* 1 tbsp salt
* Juice of 1 lime
* 1/2 tsp dried thyme, or 1 Tbls fresh thyme
* 1 tbsp allspice
* 1-10 scotch bonnets. Start with a small amount and add more lately if you think it needs it.
* 1 thumb sized knuckle of ginger (don’t worry about peeling it; just blend it up skin and all!)
* 3 cloves of garlic
* 1/2 a small onion
* 2-3 tbsp of brown sugar

COOKING INSTRUCTIONS:

Mix it all together into a blender and turn it into a puree. Don’t add more water, if you’re having trouble getting it all blended, just keep turning off the blender, stirring it up, and trying again. Eventually it will “take” and start to blend up nicely.

Now taste it. It should taste pretty salty, but not unpleasantly puckeringly salty. If you think it’s perfect, and would enjoy it as a table sauce, add a bit more salt. You want this to sort of brine the meat as it marinates. It won’t taste too salty when you eat it with the meat, it will taste great!

You can also now throw in more chiles if it’s not spicy enough for you. If it tastes too salty and sour, try adding in a bit more brown sugar until things seem good and balanced.

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