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Electronic Pickpocket

eric3579 says...

>> ^lucky760:
>> ^eric3579:
>> ^lucky760:
That guy got his products sold on Pitchmen (the show on Discovery that starred Billy Mays before his death). Seems like a gimmicky product to me if you can just stick some aluminum foil in your wallet or purse to prevent your RFID-embedded cards from getting scanned, and I believe you can (though I don't have a reliable source to cite).

Even if there is a simple fix (aluminum foil) to this problem, and you ran commercials 24 hours a day regarding this situation, I'm guessing I could still use this to get thousands of credit card numbers. I might not get yours or a few others, but I will get a shit load.

That has nothing to do with my point. You're looking at it from the attackers' point of view. Of course someone using this exploit will successfully penetrate countless vulnerable victims. That goes without saying and is an indisputable fact of life.
I was speaking from a consumer's point of view. The salesman soliciting his magic RFID protective sleeves for something like 2 for $40 is getting rich on consumer fearmongering when all one might need to do is stick some foil in their wallet.


MY bad. I actually had only watched the first half of the video, and was unaware he was pushing a product. Don't I feel stupid.

Electronic Pickpocket

lucky760 says...

>> ^eric3579:

>> ^lucky760:
That guy got his products sold on Pitchmen (the show on Discovery that starred Billy Mays before his death). Seems like a gimmicky product to me if you can just stick some aluminum foil in your wallet or purse to prevent your RFID-embedded cards from getting scanned, and I believe you can (though I don't have a reliable source to cite).

Even if there is a simple fix (aluminum foil) to this problem, and you ran commercials 24 hours a day regarding this situation, I'm guessing I could still use this to get thousands of credit card numbers. I might not get yours or a few others, but I will get a shit load.


That has nothing to do with my point. You're looking at it from the attackers' point of view. Of course someone using this exploit will successfully penetrate countless vulnerable victims. That goes without saying and is an indisputable fact of life.

I was speaking from a consumer's point of view. The salesman soliciting his magic RFID protective sleeves for something like 2 for $40 is getting rich on consumer fearmongering when all one might need to do is stick some foil in their wallet.

Electronic Pickpocket

eric3579 says...

>> ^lucky760:
That guy got his products sold on Pitchmen (the show on Discovery that starred Billy Mays before his death). Seems like a gimmicky product to me if you can just stick some aluminum foil in your wallet or purse to prevent your RFID-embedded cards from getting scanned, and I believe you can (though I don't have a reliable source to cite).


Even if there is a simple fix (aluminum foil) to this problem, and you ran commercials 24 hours a day regarding this situation, I'm guessing I could still use this to get thousands of credit card numbers. I might not get yours or a few others, but I will get a shit load.

Electronic Pickpocket

lucky760 says...

That guy got his products sold on Pitchmen (the show on Discovery that starred Billy Mays before his death). Seems like a gimmicky product to me if you can just stick some aluminum foil in your wallet or purse to prevent your RFID-embedded cards from getting scanned, and I believe you can (though I don't have a reliable source to cite).

Electronic Pickpocket

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Get your own medical RFID MICROCHIP implanted today!

NordlichReiter says...

>> ^choggie:
What we need, is one of these
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/23oct_superstorm.htm
The Carrington Event took out telegraph worldwide.....Another huge one would wreak untold havoc on satellites, innit??
While everyone was whining about not having their Crackberry fix or television, the Elite would be sitting targets for some good-old-fashioned guerrilla/vigilante justice. Take em in their homes, in their sleep....heads on pitons in the streets.


Crackberry....

I don't know why but that makes me laugh, a lot.

The future of retail shopping

demon_ix says...

>> ^Sagemind:
If someone told me (20 years ago), that in 20 years, we wouldn't have cash, (and I'm sure someone did,) I wouldn't have believed it.
Now, it is only the very rare occasion that I actually carry anything other than that dam plastic debit card (of which the bank takes a $1 sur-charge every time I use it).
As of yesterday, my new card now has a microchip in it. That RFID chip is the next evolution and there's not a dam thing we can do about it.
We are the Sheeple!

Keep it inside tin-foil when you're not using it

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Sagemind says...

If someone told me (20 years ago), that in 20 years, we wouldn't have cash, (and I'm sure someone did,) I wouldn't have believed it.

Now, it is only the very rare occasion that I actually carry anything other than that dam plastic debit card (of which the bank takes a $1 sur-charge every time I use it).

As of yesterday, my new card now has a microchip in it. That RFID chip is the next evolution and there's not a dam thing we can do about it.

We are the Sheeple!

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demon_ix says...

RFID has already been demonstrated as being extremely vulnerable to tampering and identity theft. Few sifted examples:
http://www.videosift.com/video/How-to-hack-RFID-enabled-credit-cards-for-8
http://www.videosift.com/video/Hacker-scans-in-passport-RFID-tags-by-driving-around-town
http://www.videosift.com/video/RFID-Hacked-and-Cloned

Other than that, the technology to superimpose clothing on photos (or videos) of people is already widely used in the flash game porn industry. I don't see this going too far.

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Stormsinger says...

>> ^IronDwarf:
This sounds like so much panicky, conspiracy theory bullshit.


There's a reason for that...because it -is- panicky, conspiracy theory bullshit.

No fucking way could any such plans be kept secret...if some hick cop can find out about it, so could every journalist in the world. And since most journalists aren't American, there's not much that could be done to silence them. The international press would be flooded with such reporting...and yet it's not. It ranks right up there with alien autopsies and abductions for believability.

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