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Liz Cheney's Group calls NIN's protest "Pathetic" (Music Talk Post)

silvercord says...

>> ^Truckchase:
>> ^silvercord:
I hate to be negative, but really, Trent:
Stoppit

Really? You're going to side with Mrs. Cheney on this one eh? I'm sure you'll find plenty of popular support on that....


I'm not "siding with Mrs. Cheney." I'm responding to the sentiment regarding the positive influence that Nine Inch Nails have had on American culture, i.e. " . . . all the awesome musicians who have enriched American culture . . . " and all the other indignation over at the NIN hotline. If it had been Michael Stipe, I wouldn't have said a word.

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Revolting Cocks - Do Ya Think I'm Sexy

mpreuscher says...

a.k.a. the revolting cocks of god. all have ties to another industrial project "pigface", good music if you enjoy stuff like skinny puppy, nine inch nails, who have also been part of pigface. nice find.

The Making of Nine Inch Nails' Closer

poolcleaner says...

>> ^always:
I purchased The Downward Spiral for the first time in the summer of 1996, when I was thirteen. It was on audio cassette. I would listen to it on my Sony Walkman headphones in the dark after bedtime. Sometimes I would get so scared I'd have to turn it off without making it through both sides all the way to "Hurt." I hadn't ever taken church that seriously, and hearing Trent snarl "god is dead" just seemed to affirm my growing suspicions. I discovered a darkness in myself that summer, a darkness that remains with me to this day. I've since purchased it over a dozen times to give as a gift to friends or to replace my copy which had worn out

There it is. Fan boy gush gush. Hate if you want.


I can relate to your story, except that I was listening to Emperor's "In the Nightside Eclipse" during a bloodletting orgy with a blindfold on.

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Nine Inch Nails - Closer - (uncensored)

The Making of Nine Inch Nails' Closer

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Dear Lily

Stormsinger says...

>> ^Asmo:
>> ^spoco2:
If you can think up a way to make everyone happy in this debate... then you're a genius!

Use P2P to promote your music the Nine Inch Nails way.
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15124
$750,000 from the special edition straight in to their pocket minus the cost of producing the package and shipping.


That really only works if you're already famous (most likely due to a record label's promotions). An unknown band would be lucky to get $75 straight in to their pocket, much less enough to actually live on.

Say what you like, the recording industry does do one thing -really- well...promote their goods. Well, two things, if you count ripping off their artists.

Dear Lily

Asmo says...

>> ^spoco2:

If you can think up a way to make everyone happy in this debate... then you're a genius!


Use P2P to promote your music the Nine Inch Nails way.

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15124

$750,000 from the special edition straight in to their pocket minus the cost of producing the package and shipping.

There was another story that I can't find a link to of a San Franciscan musician who languished for years ignored by big labels until he put his music up on P2P with his email address. Within days he started receiving requests to play live with offers of appearence fees, travel costs covered etc. Overnight he went from untouchable by labels to making a pretty fine living travelling and making his music. He has never sold a CD or single.

Another good read is:

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=rIYYW8s1GvkC&pg=PA168&lpg=PA168&dq=musician+using+p2p+to+book+live+shows&source=bl&ots=s2HPom0-Gt&sig=rqi8GxI94pa-
XKL0Uwg-2I0WhMI&hl=en&ei=a-3BSrD6EseBkQXGrIm1BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=musician%20using%20p2p%20to%20book%
20live%20shows&f=false

Chapter 13 (sry bout the huge link, google books is a bit meh ; )

Obviously, some people don't have the know how or don't want to spend the time to manage their own affairs to maximise their profits, but it's a very viable business and people are using it.

NiN- And All That Could Have Been...

kceaton1 says...

Thought I would post that this song's partner is The Day The World Went Away. That song is the parent of the one I have posted, if you want to listen to them back to back.

*edit- "The Day The Earth Went Away" has a few versions out, the one in the link isn't the one you will find in the "Still" album, but the meaning is just the same (it's slower, and bit more quiet, and leads out with rain as the other begins with it., etc...). You can also look for the deluxe edition "And All That Could Have Been" album/dvd (one cd, one dvd with the fragility tour-live, I believe).

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