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Girls Going Wild in Red Light District
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) — A court convicted six people Friday in what prosecutors said was the largest case of human trafficking ever brought to trial in the Netherlands.
Experts said the case could have an impact on Dutch policy because the crimes were committed after brothels were legalized in 2000 in the hope that legitimacy would make it easier for the police to monitor prostitution.
Five of the six convicted men were found guilty of participating in a large, well-established network that kept women in prostitution by force — and with extreme violence.
Some of the victims were compelled to have breast enlargement surgery, and one defendant was convicted of forcing at least one woman to have an abortion. Women were beaten and forced to sit in icy water to avoid bruising. They also were tattooed.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-07-11-Dutch-human-trafficking_N.htm
Yes, that is my position.
Girls Going Wild in Red Light District
Yes, that is my position.
You are correct, there is way more illegal prostitution in Nevada than legal prostitution, there are only 2 legal brothels that I know of. That leaves a huge black market which fosters crime and abuse. There is 0% slavery in the legal brothels, they make plenty of money without slaves and they don't want to lose their license to print money. If there were enough legal brothels, there would be far less illegal prostitution, an far fewer prostitutes being taken advantage of. It will likely never reach 0%.
I can't speak to the article you quoted/link, I don't have a WSJ account and so can't read the article. I would bet that the truth is that it has curbed (but not completely ended) human trafficking by brothels. (there are many kinds of trafficking, and legal brothels would only serve to make one of them less profitable and/or too dangerous, so the fact that it "failed to stem human trafficking" is meaningless and fallacious.)
Ending a prohibition does not eradicate the huge black market that prohibition created, but it can shrink it to a manageable size. If they legalized brothels in the Netherlands but don't do any regulation, they'll never remove the black market/sex slave trade. If that's what they've done (and I don't know) they may as well have just stopped prosecuting any prostitution. The end game is the same, and simple 'no prosecution' is way cheaper than changing laws.
You're argument seems to be if it's legal then there is little incentive to do it illegally. But just think of your example...The Bunny Ranch. I'd bet there is far more illegal prostitution going on in Nevada then legal prostitution.
"AMSTERDAM — This city's famed red-light district looks much as it has for years, with bikini-clad women behind plate-glass windows fluffing their hair or beckoning to passersby, colorful beds visible in the background as an unspoken invitation.
But things could soon change for the sex-for-hire industry following a recognition in the freewheeling Netherlands that its decision in 2000 to legalize brothels has failed to stem human trafficking."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324049504578543370643627376.html
Girls Going Wild in Red Light District
You're argument seems to be if it's legal then there is little incentive to do it illegally. But just think of your example...The Bunny Ranch. I'd bet there is far more illegal prostitution going on in Nevada then legal prostitution.
"AMSTERDAM — This city's famed red-light district looks much as it has for years, with bikini-clad women behind plate-glass windows fluffing their hair or beckoning to passersby, colorful beds visible in the background as an unspoken invitation.
But things could soon change for the sex-for-hire industry following a recognition in the freewheeling Netherlands that its decision in 2000 to legalize brothels has failed to stem human trafficking."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324049504578543370643627376.html
It seems to me that that's how it works in countries where prostitution is illegal. In countries where the brothels are legal and regulated it's nearly impossible to force sex slavery, at least in a legal brothel like this one. The customers are not criminal, and most would not stand idly by and watch slavery occur in their country, and would likely report it if it seemed their prostitute was being forced. They are also inspected. In countries where it's illegal and immoral, far fewer are willing to admit to using the services in the first place, and so won't ever report the other crimes they see.
You might note that there are certainly not any sex slaves at the bunny ranch, they seem to have a waiting list of prostitutes waiting for the chance to work there.
That is not meant to indicate it can't and doesn't happen at all, just that in this kind of country it should not be the same issue as in countries that make sex a black market, and that fact is diametrically opposed to the message they are sending.
Alex Jones Disrupts BBC's Sunday Politics
Oh yeah, fuck with Jones at the Bilderberg meetings....He'll get all, Team America like Spotswood on yer ass!
"Y BBC wanker, I'm not from Hollywood, and I'm not going to fuck your mouth and my time is very valuable.... I'm here to scream at that bitch Beatrice of the Netherlands!"
This skipper has some skills
Ant is mistaking the vertical red white and blue of France for the horizontal of the Netherlands.
Leonard Nimoy Vs. Zachary Quinto - Old School Vs. New School
I don't even know what the advertising rules are here in the Netherlands, but it really jumps out at me that the competitor is so explicitly mentioned (in the Dutch commercial Nimoy would drive an undetermined eastern europe car I would guess).
There it is at second 37, the 'CLS 550 Mercedes sucks compared to our Audi'. (I know nothing about cars, but from what I know about commercials I'm going to ahead and assume that that's actually incorrect)
Awesome 'Thrift Shop' Cover by Broken Brass Ensemble
Tags for this video have been changed from 'broken brass ensamble, brass, band, netherlands, thrift shop, cover' to 'broken brass ensemble, brass, band, netherlands, thrift shop, cover' - edited by Fusionaut
A dramatic surprise on an ice-cold day - Push to add DRAMA!
Shouldn't Beatrix be in there somewhere?
Y'know?
Drama Queen of the Netherlands?
Hanh? Mirite?? Hanh??
...
*crickets
Oh poop.
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Futuristic highways in the Netherlands
I like to pick up the Blue Shell when I'm in netherlands. Fuck those cars in front of me.
Banned Commercial: How Not to Surprise Your Wife
*dead -- "This video contains content from RTL Netherlands, who has blocked it on copyright grounds..."
Holland vs the Netherlands
Doh, I was still referring to it as Burgundian Netherlands.
Self-taught African Teen Wows M.I.T.
Back in 1993, I remember this guy with a bad leg, living in a slum in Freetown (Sierra Leone's capital), in a tiny room plastered with Bollywood and Hong Kong B-movie posters, and whose door was made of pieces of cardboard glued together. He didn't have much.
He was called "Prof" Abubakar and made a living creating and selling steel wire sculptures from stuff he was scavenging off the streets. You're probably thinking of African steel wire toys, but his were crazy, there was nothing like it. They were incredibly complex, animated, spring-loaded, or with some sparkling devices.
Some years later, someone I knew came across him. He was exposing at the Pompidou centre in Paris.
Two decades later, it's like Kelvin Doe is his Internet-era spiritual son. I hope he does as well.
[EDIT]
Correct name: Abu Bakarr Mansaray (bio | one of his contraptions). He now lives in the Netherlands.
How the Dutch got their cycle paths
Tags for this video have been changed from 'dutch, cycle, paths, netherlands, cycling, infrastructure' to 'dutch, bicycle, paths, netherlands, cycling, infrastructure' - edited by calvados
Without Planned Parenthood, what's left for women in the US?
>> ^RFlagg:
This. I would love to move from the Canton/Massillon, Ohio area, but being poor makes it very hard. The place I live now costs $460 a month. That is for a nice 2 bedroom town house with a generous communal back yard in a nice child friendly neighborhood with some of the best schools in the state. How many places in the country (heck the state) can you find housing in such a nice area so cheap? Even in areas that pay more it usually doesn't overcome the higher housing costs when you are stuck in minimum to a couple bucks above minimum pay range... ($12k to $18k locally a year)
None of the places I would like to relocate to can get in those price ranges and still be out of the slums... heck most of the places I've considered can't even get into slums for those prices (Austin, Silicon Valley area, Arcata, Portland, Seattle, Fort Collins, Denver are the main US ones). And moving out of the country to New Zealand, Iceland, the UK, Netherlands and even Canada, is impossible since an overly expensive Associates degree means you don't have the skills any of those places would give you immigration.
Add to the housing expense the high price of actually moving...
>> ^Lann:
There are sometimes situations that makes fucking moving impossible.
Move somewhere else in Ohio. Cleveland, Cincinnati, or Columbus are going to be vastly better than Canton, and while they will be a little more expensive it won't be anything like going to California. There will be far more job opportunities, too. Then you can make another step up to something better.