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Some guy engineers his own 9/11 experiments

rychan says...

I admire this guy's willingness to tinker, but he comes across as very anti-science. Good scientists (like the people who wrote the official reports) are willing to admit when they don't know something. Yet this guy latches on to that as a failure or a cover up on their part.

He didn't disprove the official story. The official story is that burning jet fuel weakened the steel. How does this video disprove that? He cherry picked a few eye witness reports, he points to some uncertainties in the official report, and he highlights a few material samples of unknown origin and somehow that invalidates the official report?

Me: Rain falls from the sky.
Him: But eyewitnesses have white hot plasma forking through the sky. Also, I have photos of ice falling from the sky. Your shoddy cover up is now disproved.

You realize his central experiments are basically worthless? We know thermite cuts steel. That's what people use it for all the freaking time:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite#Civilian_uses
"Thermite can be used for quickly cutting or welding steel such as rail tracks..."

He's right that the National Geographic experiments were shoddy. But again, he doesn't understand science if he somehow thinks that invalidates the official story and at the same time validates his crackpot theory.


>> ^Hanover_Phist:

Thank-You Pantalones. Well said.
This video does not corroborate conspiracy theory, nor was that the intention. It simply disproves the official story to pressure the public and powers that be to find the real answers.

Some guy engineers his own 9/11 experiments

mxxcon says...

from the scientific analysis of the event i've seen, the conclusion was not that jet fuel MELTED steel, but rather plane impact blew off fire-proofing and jet fuel'ed fires SOFTENED structural steel until it could no longer maintain its shape and collapsed.
to weaken/soften structural beams you don't need to melt or cut through them.

also i wouldn't trust all the eyewitness accounts to be scientifically accurate. when you live through an even such as this, you are not really in a state of mind to logically analyze and memorize everything you heard, felt and smelt. those white flashes could have been anything (yes, including thermite). that dripping molten aluminum(or thermite) could just as easily be a chunk of floor carpet melting and dripping or something else from a full office floor.

also didn't this book cover every possible scientific answer and question on this topic? http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographic-Inside-11-Commemorative/dp/B000FUF6QI

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BoneRemake says...

>> ^dag:

This video contains content from National Geographic, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds
Screw you National Geographic.


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Over 1000 Birds Fall Dead From the Sky

kceaton1 says...

>> ^Fusionaut:

It was fireworks! http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/03/3105511.htm?section=just
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I'm guessing the fish are a coincidence due to the distance involved (they weren't next to each other; so to speak...).

Although, fireworks (or things like that) due make some sense. I wonder if there were any "town" shows as I saw mention of only revelers for fireworks (which seems highly unlikely to cause something like this; unless these birds have a form of mass hysteria, like humans).

The lightning sounded like a better idea, but they should be able to match it to the autopsies. It'll be better once they have a few thorough autopsies done and a good idea of "where" they died (altitude, in the general area or a slight wind carry). Maybe, even a sonic boom could be at play. A plane might be able to make one loud enough, but if it happened at 30k like proposed I'm unclear whether residents would even hear a sonic boom. Also, I'm unsure as to the strength of a thunderclap (as it's also a "sonic boom", to some degree--far different cause than speed, as in lightning's case it's temperature variants), can the thunder cause a "fish in a barrel type effect, especially if the birds were in a storm with rain or a "heavy" cloud structure.

Maybe they were stunned and the fall actually killed them. Hopefully, we find out quick. I always fine these large die-offs interesting as sometimes the causes can give us more insight into how our planet works. One (actually two, in the same place) that I can think of off the top of my head was a Human die-off.

It was from Lake Nyos, in northwest Cameroon. Lake Nyos is one of three "exploding lakes" here are two interesting articles about them, but there is a (it's a National Geographic show, I'm very unsure of the title, it's related to the BBC show, "Killer Lakes", I just put up here; at the bottom is the link for it), but I know Lake Nyos is included in it) show about it which is a must watch -- they figured out what was happening basically on accident as well (this was not even a theory before; now they're afraid there are "mega-pockets" which is talked about in a History Channel "Mega Disasters" episode (I think "Methane Explosion", though "Methane" is used for sure) -- if something happens at an "ocean geographic scale" it would kill a lot of people; it has the potential to be worse than Yellowstone, but we have absolutely no information on the likelihood of this occurring nor the size of such an event). Nyos killed roughly 3500 livestock and 1700 people, some of the villagers were 16 miles from the lake. One of the other lakes is in Cameroon and the other is in Rwanda.

Here are the Wikipedia links:

Limnic Eruptions or also known as Exploding Lakes -- think of them as being somewhat like a soda can with the lid popped off and some Mentos thrown in.

Second, Lake Nyos which killed a large amount of people in 1986 and left scientists baffled.

There are some media links at the bottom of the wiki articles.


Here is the BBC documentary I just put up for the sift (HORiZONS, BBC World); trust me it's an interesting watch. Make sure you have time to watch it as it comes in at a FULL episode and is 44 minutes long. This documentary talks about the 1986 disaster and the mystery surrounding it.

They'll get into the mechanics and also show the reason some scientists are scared this WILL happen again, but this time it might kill hundreds of thousands--maybe more...

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BP Fails Booming School 101

NordlichReiter says...

>> ^Mcboinkens:

Language ruined it. We get it, youryou're pissed, just like everyone else. Using language with that kind of an annoying voice is just frustrating. Also, if the media got this right(they probably didn't), didn't BP hire a lot of local workers to help drop booms? If so, that may answer part of why the booming blows.


Might I point out that your first comment had one of the biggest grammar mistakes in the English language? I do it too, and I regret making a grammatical error every time; it stings a little.

Aside from that the video reached me just fine, although it could use more diagrams. Also, if BP did hire a bunch of local people to do booming, those people are still part of BP even if they are contracted. I doubt the locals would be put in charge; unless they had excellent knowledge of how to boom. However, if the data shown to us in the video is true it is clear that BP needs to attend booming school; but too little and too late.

Satellite pictures of the oil spill.

http://mashable.com/2010/05/21/oil-spill-pictures/

Look at the third picture of the slide show in the following National Geographic link. Somethings not right there.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/photogalleries/100430-oil-spill-gulf-mexico-pictures/#gulf-oil-spill-threatens-birds-wildlife_19741_60
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Tymbrwulf (Member Profile)

Issykitty says...

hmmm... I can't say for sure because MrFisk's post is region-blocked for me as well, but it probably is a dupe. I guess we should ask someone in UK who can view it, whether or not it is a national geographic clip.

In reply to this comment by Tymbrwulf:
Hey here's a question:

Is http://videosift.com/video/Jesus-Christ-Lizard-Walks-on-Water a dupe of the vid (http://videosift.com/video/Jesus-Christ-Lizard) you posted 1 yr 10 months ago?

I'm region blocked for one of the two vids and don't feel like proxying through to check, just noticed a coincidence.



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