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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Woo-hoo!!!
The NY AG and Manhattan DA are considering enterprise corruption and racketeering criminal charges against Trump, his children and possibly Rudy Giuliani.
Thanks to Cannon delaying his treason/stolen classified documents trial indefinitely, there’s plenty of time for that trial next year.
😂 She thought she was helping! 😂

Meanwhile Trump doesn’t know where he is, what year it is, who he ran against, who has been president, who foreign leaders are, or that we’ve already had a Second World War. I think he’s setting up a dementia defense.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Angelica Rucker-
The MAGA terrorist that attacked a family pushing two infant children in strollers with a knife for accidentally bumping her lightly on a busy NY sidewalk as she protested for Trump.
Stopped by police from murdering a family in cold blood over nothing.
In other Trump riots masses of armed white men surrounded passers by, detained and threatened them, knocking one black woman out cold as she and her wife tried to escape the violent assault and battery by dozens of white men.

This is MAGA. Crazy murderous terrorist cultists committing violent crimes in support of your cult leader. At CPAC MAGA flew banners declaring “We are domestic terrorists” yet you still deny it?

Hilariously, the MAGA investigations keep proving every accusation is an admission. The report on the FBI “going after parents for trying to have just a little input on their schools” released quietly last week showed that every parent investigated had made serious death threats to school boards and their families including direct death threats made against and to early grade school children, (like the handwritten note -“sorry your mommy is a commie whore, but if she doesn’t quit we are going to kill her, but first we are going to kill you” handed to I think a 7 year old) some attempting to follow through.
The weaponization of the federal government investigation has gone much worse, with the chairman illegally weaponizing the federal government against the Manhattan DA publicly as he presides over the farce.
And never forget Trump directly calling to suspend the constitution so he can be reinstalled by force.

Trump to be arrested

newtboy says...

“George Soros funded DA Bragg”

George Soros and Alvin Bragg have never met in person or spoken by telephone, email, Zoom etc.. There has been no contact between the two. Neither George Soros nor Democracy PAC contributed to Alvin Bragg's campaign for Manhattan District Attorney. There is absolutely zero evidence to the contrary besides the reich’s favorite racist trope….”Jews control blacks and pit them against whites and freedom for financial gain.”. I believe another leader made the same claims.

bobknight33 said:

To claim that there is systemic racism/ social injustice is just propaganda.

Ex-Trump Adviser Steve Bannon Arrested & Charged with Fraud

surfingyt says...

repubs kicked the mypillow moron out of their event after he was on bannons show.

Judge explicitly said Bannon was admitting his guilt. This means Manhattan DA and NY AG can go right after Bannon, and every state will jump into the class action against him. interesting being dropped today, just as the Manhattan DA is empaneling a grand jury for indictments. The "party of law and order" republicants LOL

thanks for reminding us bob we got another L lined up for ya

newtboy said:

@bobknight33 you ignorant slut.

Dismissed only because Trump pardoned him.
"But the judge said the pardon was valid, and that even if Bannon did not formally admit guilt "the issuance of a pardon may carry an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it.""

To be clear, taking the pardon is admitting guilt. He argued to be dismissed as a defendant because he had been granted and accepted the pardon. The judge agreed, the last hour pardon was valid, and is therefore a valid and legal admission by Bannon that he's guilty, and case dismissed....for him, the other three crooks don't have a get out of jail free card from Trump, so we still get to hear how his charity theft ring operated.

And another loss for Bobby. Even your big wins are actually huge losses.

Two pigeons push another pigeon onto train tracks

Bike Messenger Riding Fast and Fluid Through NYC Traffic

Khufu says...

It would have to be in Manhattan because anywhere else in America people would have intentionally opened their car doors to share their opinion of his smooth riding style.

mxxcon said:

Luckily bike messengers are less common now.
It's cool that I could recognize pretty much every shot they showed
Seems like most of the riding was done around lower Manhattan, mostly near FiDi.

Bike Messenger Riding Fast and Fluid Through NYC Traffic

mxxcon says...

Luckily bike messengers are less common now.
It's cool that I could recognize pretty much every shot they showed
Seems like most of the riding was done around lower Manhattan, mostly near FiDi.

The 7 Biggest Failures of Trumponomics

Drachen_Jager says...

They used to have poll tests. They were very effective at disenfranchising minority voters. I'm sure Trump and all the other racists in the GOP would LOVE to bring something like that back, especially since they're experts at twisting things like that to their own ends.

Yeah, it's probably a good idea, but it's really hard to stop people from twisting it to their own agenda, which is why it's illegal in the US.

Now, what I'm all for is balancing the vote to better represent population, so voters in the midwest don't have 10x the voting power of someone in Manhattan. And while we're at it, can we get some balance between generations? There's no way an average 80-90 year-old is as competent to decide the future direction of a country as an average 30-40 year-old, and the younger person has an eye on the future.

newtboy said:

Instead of a poll tax, we need a poll test. If you cannot explain checks and balances, no vote for you.
If you can't understand that a huge deficit increases the debt, no vote for you.
If you can't grasp the fact that corporate welfare is socialism, no vote for you.
Republicans would get less than 5% of the vote under this plan.

Don't Get Neil Tyson Started on Water Towers

BSR says...

Someone asked Mayor Ed Koch: (mayor of New York City from 1978 to 1989)

"What is your favorite thing to do in Manhattan that you can do nowhere else?"

"Count the water towers within my sight from my terrace."

I don't know why I remember that but, now that I've finally used it here, I can let it go.

This Cyclist Took Back the Bike Lane on the Brooklyn Bridge

eoe says...

Anyone who bikes in NY should know that you're just as likely to get over the Brooklyn Bridge as through the bike lane in Times Square. Basically, you're an idiot if you do it.

Go over the Manhattan Bridge just down the way a bit, and it's got an entirely dedicated bike lane. Granted, people coming/going from Chinatown oftentimes incorrectly take it, but they're few and far between.

Model Viki Odintcova Hangs From Dubai Tower

spawnflagger says...

lucky that there was zero wind at the top of 75-floor building that day. (not calling it fake, it's not dense like Manhattan where so many high-rise buildings create strange wind patterns...)

If they make a Russian Tomb Raider movie, she should play Lara Croft.

Monsanto, America's Monster

bcglorf says...

@newtboy,
Some, (very few) still grow grain using old school methods, some even using old school grains (thank goodness, we will have them to thank for still having grains when/if the Monsanto grains fail). It's not even 99%, but it is 'most'.

If you count your numbers by production it's probably more than 99% fall under your idea of 'industrial'. If you want to count old school methods as no chemicals for pest control and harvesting by hand then you need 20 some old school farms to match the quantity of food produced on one thousand acre family farm.

Clearly, natural farming takes more effort, and costs the consumer more, but does not require major ecological mitigation, so if you count ALL costs involved, it's not that much more expensive.
Can you explain the ecological mitigation costs you imagine are associated with farming a thousand acres of grain by hand versus using modern equipment and some round-up? The round-up breaks down within days of application and the equipment doesn't impact the land any more than having 20 some people marching through on foot. For bonus points include the ecological foot print of everybody required to work the land in both scenarios. Including that makes it glaringly obvious that the efficiency of what you class 'industrial' farming techniques is on the whole much better on the planet. Of course, it shouldn't be a surprise producing double and triple the amount of food from the same land with a fraction of the manpower means less overall demand on the environment.

As for the propaganda in the vid, you claimed I misrepresented the Manhattan presentation, I quoted the video verbatim. I'm not interested in doing the same for every point they ran. The video is propaganda of the purest form and I stand by that.

Monsanto, America's Monster

bcglorf says...

@newtboy

If you are only growing twice what you can eat yourself, you are describing a large garden, not a farm.

More over, what you class as 'industrial' farming is in fact the entirety of all grain farming. If there is a place in farming for wheat, corn, soy, canola and so on, 99% of it is done on what you class 'industrial' farming.

Your typical family farm is over a thousand acres today. If I go out and start naming the family farms of just friends and family I know, I can come up with 30-40+. They all farm over a thousand acres, they use tractors and combines and they make a fair bit more food than twice what they can eat. They aren't the ultra rich land barons that your 'industrial' moniker would imply either, at most they have a singular hired hand to help out with the work. The ones with children interested in taking over often don't need to hire anyone at all.

If you want to abandon that agricultural production and the methods used you mean raising the cost of production more than 100 times over. I can't even fathom the cost of weeding a thousand acres of wheat by hand, let alone removing grasshoppers from a corn crop that way. I'm sorry, but what works for your garden doesn't scale to grain crops.

Oh, and the conflation of herbicide and pesticide was done by the fear monger crowd. Listing round-up as a chemical that only kills plants and not insects and animals didn't fit their agenda so now everything is supposed to be called a pesticide across the board. Maybe that's just a Canadian thing, but the bottom line is that if you had a crop completely over run with insects you could spray it once a day with stupidly high concentrations of round-up and the water in the sprayer would do about the same damage to the insects as would the round up.


As for the video's other claims, I stand by my characterisation. You can't honestly tell me the video is trying to put forward on open and honest picture of Monsanto's actions and history. For example, the Manhattan Project, here's a transcription for clarity:
"Monsanto head Charles Allen Thomas was called to the pentagon not only asked to join the Manhattan project, but to lead it as it's co-director. Thomas put Monsanto's central research department hard to work building the atomic bomb.Fully aware of the implications of the task the budding empire sealed it's relationship with the inner cicrcles of washington with two fateful days in Japan.
"
- queue clip of nuclear blasts-

I think I stand by my summation.

Monsanto, America's Monster

newtboy says...

That is clearly not true. It may be one of the less toxic human made functioning, profitable herbicides, but that's not what you said by far.

Roundup is not a pesticide, it's an herbicide. Conflating it with pesticides is ridiculous and incredibly misleading. Roundup is used to control weeds and remove genetic 'contamination' of specific crops. EDIT: Many of those crops are genetically modified to act as pesticides without spraying chemicals, which is a good reason to want to limit cross contamination in either direction.

Other alternatives are no chemicals at all, or only ecologically safe (usually natural) chemicals. I don't use chemicals on my farm, I weed, I spray horticulture oil, I spread ashes, I grow twice what I can eat so some loss to insects won't matter, and I remove insects, slugs, and snails by hand. It takes more work, but the statement that the only alternative to Roundup is worse chemicals or agriculture collapse is completely and obviously false and indicates a total ignorance of the issue you speak about.

"Modern Agriculture" today means hydroponics, aeroponics, and aquaponics, none of which can benefit a whit from Roundup. You mean to say "Industrial Agriculture". The collapse of industrial agriculture might not be a bad thing, as it's incredibly destructive and produces a sub par product. More people farming on smaller farms puts more people to work, makes better product, and makes the people who work on the land feel responsible for it's upkeep, not consider it a resource to be exploited as efficiently as possible.

Mentioning Monsanto's involvement in the project is not the same as saying "neither Einstein or Openheimer or others were behind the Manhattan project, it was Monsanto all along that plotted to destroy Japanese cities with nuclear weapons". They clearly implied that Monsanto joined the project as a way to 'cozy up to' the political elite, and it worked.

Where did you hear this ridiculous hypothesis about their motive? Do you see and hear things that other people don't see and hear? It's clear that the motive in all cases was profit, either directly, or future profits secured by 'making friends' in government by cooperating with them or by forcing farmers into untenable contracts and positions where, in some cases, farmers that don't use Monsanto crops were sued because Monsanto said the pollen that pollinated the crops came from a neighbors Monsanto crops, so the seed belongs to Monsanto. Monsanto does not set out to cause damage and harm, they simply don't care if it happens as a side effect of their profit making methods, which they will protect with any means possible.

Just wow, a more deliberately misleading description of the video would be hard to create.

bcglorf said:

This propaganda ignores much more than that. Roundup is one of the absolutely least toxic to human chemicals that agriculture can use. The alternatives are chemicals a lot more harmful than roundup or abandoning the use of pesticides. Worse chemicals or the collapse of modern agriculture don't look appealing as alternatives so the ignorant roundup fear mongers protest too much in my opinion.

And then there's things like claiming neither Einstein or Openheimer or others were behind the Manhattan project, it was Monsanto all along that plotted to destroy Japanese cities with nuclear weapons. You know, on account of them being evil and wanting to see millions of people dead because it gives their corporate heads joy. Just like it wanted to invent pesticides as a means of convincing the public to poison each other for giggles, and getting the state department to experiment on people. None of this had any other motive than the thrill of inflicting cruelty on people, and none of it would have happened but for Monsanto's hard drive to push for these things to be done...

Just wow, a more deliberately misleading video would be hard to create.

Monsanto, America's Monster

bcglorf says...

This propaganda ignores much more than that. Roundup is one of the absolutely least toxic to human chemicals that agriculture can use. The alternatives are chemicals a lot more harmful than roundup or abandoning the use of pesticides. Worse chemicals or the collapse of modern agriculture don't look appealing as alternatives so the ignorant roundup fear mongers protest too much in my opinion.

And then there's things like claiming neither Einstein or Openheimer or others were behind the Manhattan project, it was Monsanto all along that plotted to destroy Japanese cities with nuclear weapons. You know, on account of them being evil and wanting to see millions of people dead because it gives their corporate heads joy. Just like it wanted to invent pesticides as a means of convincing the public to poison each other for giggles, and getting the state department to experiment on people. None of this had any other motive than the thrill of inflicting cruelty on people, and none of it would have happened but for Monsanto's hard drive to push for these things to be done...

Just wow, a more deliberately misleading video would be hard to create.

ChaosEngine said:

its really not that simple.

Can roundup cause cancer? Well, I wouldn't recommend drinking it.

WILL it cause cancer? Eh, not really.

His lady needs to understand the difference between "hazard" and "risk".
http://www.wired.com/2016/05/monsantos-roundup-herbicide-cause-cancer-not-controversy-explained/

And bacon doesn't cause cancer either.



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