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NASA | Megadroughts Projected for American West

lucky760 says...

NASA. Pssh. Only a bunch of left-wing uber-liberal hippy mumbo jumbo comes out of them.

There's a very vocal 1% of scientists and 100% of republican politicians that say the climate isn't changing or is only changing for the better.

Besides, it's hot on Mars isn't it?! And that planet seems fine. That should tell you all you need to know!

Don't let the fear-mongers scare you into saving water or believing in climate change. It's a big conspiracy, just like the moon landing and 9/11.

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Ellen Dance Dare Gone Wrong- With Cops

ulysses1904 says...

I'm sure plenty of hippies got pushed to the ground by cops when they tried to share their "groovy trip" with the world, like this flower child is doing. What did he expect, the cops to join in and kick off a "Fame" dance number in the street? Walk a mile in their shoes, cop hatred is actively trending and then tinker-bell sneaks up behind them and starts acting erratically. If some drunk snuck up behind one of your family in the street and started acting like this guy I suspect your language and actions would match these guys.

By the way it would have been nice to have witnessed an actual shove to the ground. I saw a shove, then the guy on the ground. With the intentionally evil music applied to the scene I'll consider this guy a drama queen until shown otherwise.

How fracking works

xxovercastxx says...

I'm not endorsing the practice but I will point out that doing it is the only way we'll discover the long term results.

All I'm trying to say is that once something gets tied up in politics, it's near impossible to learn about it. Once it's political, lines are drawn and people take sides and you're either a shill or a hippie.

I'm from a small town in upstate NY in an area where fracking was to really take root. Fortunately (?) it's just been banned. I would have liked to know what the risks are and their likelihood, at least to the best of our knowledge. I'm sure there are people out there who have this information, but I have no way to identify them.

The shills say it's very safe, but I don't trust them at all. The hippies say it's going to kill us all, but they say the same thing about GMOs. I'm sure the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but few people are offering nuanced opinions and I can't assume they're correct just because they are.

I have no way of knowing what's true and what's not and it pisses me off a bit.

dannym3141 said:

I rather feel that that puts the argument in a skewed light. Essentially, we are either in full awareness of the facts and long term results of fracking or we are not. If we are not yet, why on earth would we pursue it now? We have alternative forms of energy production, it's just a whole bunch of very rich people aren't quite done selling us oil yet.

How fracking works

BoneRemake says...

I have first hand knowledge of oil well drilling and completion, This video depicts the processes used in fracking and you "hippies" are just ganging on a video to shout on your mounds sound bite tripe. The poster seems to have posted it for informative purposes and then you rats come and jump on board. Your informed and honest opinions are misplaced on a good video, downvotes for it are in the range of retarded.

How fracking works

dannym3141 says...

I rather feel that that puts the argument in a skewed light. Essentially, we are either in full awareness of the facts and long term results of fracking or we are not. If we are not yet, why on earth would we pursue it now? We have alternative forms of energy production, it's just a whole bunch of very rich people aren't quite done selling us oil yet.

The shale will still be there, and we may have developed more efficient and safer means of extracting it. And we will have to deal without oil eventually, what better time to begin, whilst we still have some that we can get if we utterly must? We are not yet in crisis but they want to take a risk, that's got to make you ask a few questions. I don't have a detailed scientific knowledge of the subject, but i would know if it was proven safe, and it isn't yet.

Incidentally or otherwise, the first earthquake that i've ever felt in my life happened very shortly after they began a new testing site for fracking nearby - one of two earthquakes that happened in short succession after the first wave of tests. I live in the north of england.. they never happen. It's worth looking into before we start doing it.. the last person i'm going to trust with the future of this planet is an oil baron.

@BoneRemake - let me know which bit of my horseshit you want me to look past and i'll attempt to look past it and see what you describe. Or was it an empty sound-bite? My criticism was valid - newt said everything that needed to be said on that subject, and yes i can in retrospect see the value of the video as a demonstration of the fracking process. But you don't have to be a hippy to try and see positive and informed decisions made in the world, but if it makes me one then i'm glad to be one. What does that make you? No need for name calling, it generally means you've not got an argument.

I'd just like to mention that it really, really suits the pro-fracking lobbyists to try and ridicule people and try to conjure mental images of the long-haired flower-child hugging trees and not showering and wearing tinfoil hats. It turns real, intelligent, professional people who care about what happens around them into caricatures, and it belittles their reasoned and sensible argument without even addressing it. It is a tactic as old as the hills.. i'm sure you're not a lobbyist, but i can't help think they're smiling knowing that the old seeds they scattered around took root somewhere..!

xxovercastxx said:

*controversy

Unfortunately fracking has become politicized and so there are no longer any sources of information that can be expected to be honest. It is now just another dichotomy: A completely safe method of resource collection, or a WMD disguised as such.

How fracking works

BoneRemake says...

If you can look past your own horse shit, you people would notice that it is a really informative video that shows how the Fracking process works. This is not meant to be a political tool nor is it about water issues. God damn hippies get me in a twist sometimes.

dannym3141 said:

Absolute horse shit. If you think it's propaganda, i think you should downvote it, but that's just my opinion.

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enoch says...

@bcglorf
so ignore what the man is saying because of the platform given to him by a group you find to be "mother earth loving hippies"?

i am not going to even attempt to unravel that kind of twisted logic.

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bcglorf says...

Don't associate the term science with the bioneers. The bioneers are a group of mother earth loving hippies. I say that, because fully 50% of the bioneer presentations I've been unfortunate enough to hear on radio all revolve around the 'scientific' importance of respect for GAIA and mother earth. Regularly they will make the link with mumbo jumbo about quantum this or that. They are adamantly and vehementally anti-science and spreaders of massive amounts of deliberate and brutal ignorance.

Maybe this is one of the few actual scientists they've managed to get their hands on, but he did just talk about the 'earth's own internet', so not hopeful.

best anarchist speech i have ever heard

ChaosEngine says...

in an anarchal society the corporation could not and would not exist.they would go back to being temporary business alliances in order to complete an assigned project and then disbursed.

Who tells Enron or Blackwater they have to disburse? Who enforces this?

in an anarchal society,if a company wanted to move its plant over-seas and would leave thousands un-employed,effectively destroying that community.they would first have to seek permission from that township and/or sell the plant to the town in order to change base of operations.
Again, what's stopping them? In fact, what stops a company from cutting down a massive forest or polluting a river?

in an anarchal system,there would be no war on drugs.no criminalizing the poor.no war on terror or wars of aggression.
Maybe, but it would simply be replaced by something even worse.

look,the argument is always,and i mean always:power vs powerlessness.

anarchy is about power to the people in its purest form.
and i hold zero illusions that it may be remotely perfect but if i have to choose..i will always choose YOU over some wealthy elite power broker.


And that's why I believe in a representative democracy. To me there are only a few ways the world can work:
- there's what I would call historical anarchy, where there was nothing to stop groups of the powerful banding together to oppress the weak. This has been the default position for most of human history.
- there's small scale communal anarchy, where people live in small communities. It's possible for this to work, but some bright spark usually figures out that these people are easy pickings for oppression (see above). Even if that doesn't happen, it's incredibly limiting. All of our greatest achievements only happen with cooperation on a large scale. If we're ever to get off this rock and see what's out there, it's not going to happen with hippie communes.
- representative democracy. It's ugly, inefficient, susceptible to corruption, open to pointless "moral crusades" and can be heartless and bureaucratic. And it's still the best system we have....

Churchill really wasn't kidding when he said "democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others"

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