That's mother banging Pence's own sleepy words.....but I was talking about your mega job creator video from last December. You don't think people are WATCHING the ridiculous Trump commercials you keep posting, do you?!?

It bears noting that of those jobs some people have found in the Trump recession, 1/2 pay 50% or less than the job they lost to the Trump flu depression.

Also worth noting, the drop in poverty numbers are due mostly to democrats pushing for higher minimum wages, something Trump and republicans railed against, not due to anything he did.

I suspect that much of the Right Wing (but there's no reason the Left couldn't do this either) like giving power back to the states is that local politics is easier to manipulate and influence, especially with money.
What I don't understand, is how a higher minimum wage would suppress economic activity, people with more money can buy what they need as well as get things they want. And I don't think anyone is proposing a 30 to 100 dollar minimum wage.

Makes me a more Trump supporter.

The problem is big government. Not corporations or the 1%. It politicians lining their pockets and the expense of Americans.


We don't need a higher minimum wage. We need jobs that have a higher skill set are worth more than minimum wage.

Socialism is just more than ever big government

Exactly.
Jobs that pay minimum wage are (at least according to most who oppose higher minimum wages) supposed to be for the brain dead, lazy, and/or 'the shunned' (like child molesters that can't get any other kind of job, no matter what their skill set).
Jobs that require more than average intelligence should absolutely pay better than minimum wage. Intelligence is a valuable (and rare) commodity.

>> ^quantumushroom:

If you're shoveling manure for 10 dollars, and some government official takes 5 dollars "to help people" every time you get paid, how hard will you be shoveling manure tomorrow?

As for how hard the guy would work, I suspect shoveling shit wasn't really his lifelong desire in life, and that he's only taken the job out of extreme economic necessity. What would make him work even harder would be to pay him less, and remove opportunities for him to move to a line of work that's got more dignity and less manual labor.

What would be better is for him to have more liberty to make his living doing what he really wants to do and not be unduly bound by economic necessity.

There are practical limits to how much help can reasonably be given, but making the worst jobs on the market better paying and less dangerous, while providing free (to him) quality education seem like good starts.

So, liberals would want to cut this guy's taxes, and give him better government benefits, like subsidized education, healthcare, paid time off, guarantee the company he works for is providing him good equipment and protection from the health hazards of being around shit all day, and oh yes, a higher minimum wage.

To pay for the above, we would tax the billionaire who's making $10,000 profit for each $800 paycheck he cuts for the shit-shoveler.