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Obama's Promise to End DEA Raids on Medical Pot is US Policy

J-Rova says...

>> ^imstellar28:
Wow, revolutionary stuff. Thank jesus I don't have to worry about the DEA raiding my house anymore.
Lets throw a feast with the bread crumbs we've just been fed while ignoring the fact that a candidate who would have legalized all drugs without taxation also ran for president.
http://www.videosift.com/video/Ron-Paul-on-Real-Time-with
-Bill-Maher-February-20-2009
For as long as you cheer your low standards, you will be relegated to low standards.


Tax it! Tax the hell out of it!

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Obama's Promise to End DEA Raids on Medical Pot is US Policy

imstellar28 says...

Wow, revolutionary stuff. Thank jesus I don't have to worry about the DEA raiding my house anymore.

Lets throw a feast with the bread crumbs we've just been fed while ignoring the fact that a candidate who would have legalized all drugs without taxation also ran for president.
http://www.videosift.com/video/Ron-Paul-on-Real-Time-with-Bill-Maher-February-20-2009

For as long as you cheer your low standards, you will be relegated to low standards.

Obama's Promise to End DEA Raids on Medical Pot is US Policy

lucky760 says...

>> ^quantumushroom:
This is a Band-Aid for a beheading and doesn't make up for one trillion dollars looted from the Treasury, another trillion looted from the people in economy-destroying higher taxes and recent attempts to revive both the UnFairness doctrine and "assault weapons" ban.

You're right, QM. It also doesn't make up for the hundreds of billions spent bailing out private, greedy corporations or the cost of years of war in terms of both dollars and lives. He might as well just continue raiding medical marijuana dispensaries. That should fix everything.

Or wait- are you doing that thing where you interrelate issues that have nothing to do with one another to use any possible opportunity to take a swipe at a democratic politician? You can't complain about America's new marijuana policy so you're just attacking him for whatever else is on your mind aren't you? I'm onto youuuu...

You big kidder. You almost had me there for a minute.

Obama's Promise to End DEA Raids on Medical Pot is US Policy

Obama's Promise to End DEA Raids on Medical Pot is US Policy

Obama's Promise to End DEA Raids on Medical Pot is US Policy

rougy says...

It's a good start.

That's probably why all of those DEA fucks went crazy last week or the week before because they wanted to get their cheap punches in while they could.

I'd like to know how much money the DEA stole confiscated in the course of those raids.

Would be even nicer to know what they did with it.

How would you fix the economy? (Worldaffairs Talk Post)

imstellar28 says...

I went through and struck out the statements I disagree with. Looks like we agree on about 99% of it.

>> ^Farhad2000:
Americans have been living beyond their means for years now. The let's cut taxes and everything will be peachy approach will simply not work, it will only continue to create further debt in a already debt ridden society. Just because you get an extra 10,000 dollars will not alleviate the long term problems the economy is facing. The government is far too large but the political incentive to reduce it is simply not there. Too much legislation has created too many public offices that serve no purpose, and too much of government work is already being privatized out with no real solid oversight. These are some of the steps I would take before probably being assassinated because it would rattle too many people in comfortable positions.
- Eliminate the following: Department of Health, Department of Education, Drug Enforcement Agency and the SEC. DOH and DOE statistical bodies can be rolled into the Census office for information gathering. The DEA needs to be dissolved, parts not dealing with drug enforcement rolled into the FBI. The SEC should be reformed entirely and given higher powers and responsibilities, its failure to catch the Madoff scandal is simply unforgivable.
- Slash Pentagon spending, the US spends almost 4 to 5 times as much as the nearest highest spender on defense. America has the best cold war era military force that is trying to fight guerrilla wars while constantly changing its attack profile from standard engagement to network centric warfare to COIN. Enough military readjustments on the taxpayers bill.
- Working with the infrastructure survey create open bid contracts to rebuild and improve America's basic infrastructure. Eliminate the made in USA clause which is basically protectionist scheme. Infrastructure is the most vital component in the economy, years of tax cuts meant you are living on shit built back in the 50s.
- Eliminate American protectionist schemes for agriculture. This is lunacy and only helps large agriculture firms while US consumers lose out, welcome to the globalization bitches. Africa makes cheaper bananas and mangos anyway.
- Make all private sector lobbying illegal. All lobbying should be citizen empowered only with no private interests. Currently any private firm can buy lobbying pressure to roll in laws that are only beneficial for it's own interests. This is waste and imbalance.
- Legalize drugs and tax them. This a mute point, there too much waste in capturing marijuana smokers and filling the jails with them, while culturally we all watch Weeds on HBO. There is an untapped revenue source here.
- Withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan, close down every single US military post. Needless waste on a needless war that cost too many American lives. Withdrawal must be countered with a monument to all those killed needlessly, a formal apology by the President for straining the nation.
- Create a viable social health care system while allowing private care to flourish as an alternative choice. The health of labor is the wealth of the economy, everyone should have access to affordable health care that doesn't ruin your finical portfolio if you get a heart attack. We can afford to spend trillions to build bombs, we can afford to spend trillions making sure every American is able to stay healthy.
- Incorporate legal immigration and legalize everyone in the US, firms need cheap labour, all those kids in the OC will not do the cheap labor jobs that people who immigrate will. Removing barriers will allow more people to contribute to the economy. Tax them accordingly.
- Form a WWII style incentive towards improving American education and finding alternative viable fuel sources.
- End all SOCIAL based legislation that deal with marriage and gay rights, this is not a sector the government should have any say in.
- Introduce progressive tax structures that scale to abnormal income increases, foster the creation of the middle class. End lax inheritances taxation. End favorable tax heavens for corporations. End corporate tax write offs. This is necessary to balance out the economy unfortunately.

How would you fix the economy? (Worldaffairs Talk Post)

Farhad2000 says...

Americans have been living beyond their means for years now. The let's cut taxes and everything will be peachy approach will simply not work, it will only continue to create further debt in a already debt ridden society. Just because you get an extra 10,000 dollars will not alleviate the long term problems the economy is facing. The government is far too large but the political incentive to reduce it is simply not there. Too much legislation has created too many public offices that serve no purpose, and too much of government work is already being privatized out with no real solid oversight. These are some of the steps I would take before probably being assassinated because it would rattle too many people in comfortable positions.

- Eliminate the following: Department of Health, Department of Education, Drug Enforcement Agency and the SEC. DOH and DOE statistical bodies can be rolled into the Census office for information gathering. The DEA needs to be dissolved, parts not dealing with drug enforcement rolled into the FBI. The SEC should be reformed entirely and given higher powers and responsibilities, its failure to catch the Madoff scandal is simply unforgivable.

- Slash Pentagon spending, the US spends almost 4 to 5 times as much as the nearest highest spender on defense. America has the best cold war era military force that is trying to fight guerrilla wars while constantly changing its attack profile from standard engagement to network centric warfare to COIN. Enough military readjustments on the taxpayers bill.

- Working with the infrastructure survey create open bid contracts to rebuild and improve America's basic infrastructure. Eliminate the made in USA clause which is basically protectionist scheme. Infrastructure is the most vital component in the economy, years of tax cuts meant you are living on shit built back in the 50s.

- Eliminate American protectionist schemes for agriculture. This is lunacy and only helps large agriculture firms while US consumers lose out, welcome to the globalization bitches. Africa makes cheaper bananas and mangos anyway.

- Make all private sector lobbying illegal. All lobbying should be citizen empowered only with no private interests. Currently any private firm can buy lobbying pressure to roll in laws that are only beneficial for it's own interests. This is waste and imbalance.

- Legalize drugs and tax them. This a mute point, there too much waste in capturing marijuana smokers and filling the jails with them, while culturally we all watch Weeds on HBO. There is an untapped revenue source here.

- Withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan, close down every single US military post. Needless waste on a needless war that cost too many American lives. Withdrawal must be countered with a monument to all those killed needlessly, a formal apology by the President for straining the nation.

- Create a viable social health care system while allowing private care to flourish as an alternative choice. The health of labor is the wealth of the economy, everyone should have access to affordable health care that doesn't ruin your finical portfolio if you get a heart attack. We can afford to spend trillions to build bombs, we can afford to spend trillions making sure every American is able to stay healthy.

- Incorporate legal immigration and legalize everyone in the US, firms need cheap labour, all those kids in the OC will not do the cheap labor jobs that people who immigrate will. Removing barriers will allow more people to contribute to the economy. Tax them accordingly.

- Form a WWII style incentive towards improving American education and finding alternative viable fuel sources.

- End all SOCIAL based legislation that deal with marriage and gay rights, this is not a sector the government should have any say in.

- Introduce progressive tax structures that scale to abnormal income increases, foster the creation of the middle class. End lax inheritances taxation. End favorable tax heavens for corporations. End corporate tax write offs. This is necessary to balance out the economy unfortunately.

Legalization: Yes We Can

Psychologic says...

In the end it doesn't matter how much the "government" wants or needs marijuana to be illegal, it will be legalized when a large majority of people want it to be legal.

Most of those resisting legalization are members of the older generations... as they are replaced with members of the younger generations the percentage of people who do not support prohibition will increase. The government won't be able to keep it illegal when 75%+ of people disagree with the prohibition (eventually).

Sure, the government can try a campaign of propaganda, but the reason that was successful in the past is because the population didn't have effortless access to information at the time. Now when people see a claim about how something is dangerous then all they have to do is look around the net to see if medical literature confirms or refutes the claim.

Marijuana will eventually be legal in the USA. People may think that the DEA or law enforcement have too much at stake to allow that, but they won't be the ones controlling it... it will be the voters who will eventually overturn the current norm.

Legalization: Yes We Can

Farhad2000 says...

First, did I just upvote a QM comment?

Second, I don't think legalization will happen any time soon across all states. The police and DEA have too much funding created fighting the war on drugs and sustains alot of people, these are the same people who happen to be in government and they wouldn't be too happy losing their jobs over what they will claim will just make our children high, destroy society and instigate more crime. The usual alarmist bullshit.

But you know. Know hope.



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