>> ^lavoll:
religion.. why not get over it and deal with reality instead


Two up-votes.

I was thinking about that today. If we look around our world, here, now, the Bible is as relevant as Beowulf. It's a great story, but it just doesn't apply to this situation, unless we get symbolic, and even then, it's just the enactment of a different story.

I actually believe that there is something greater than me, like invisible threads tying me to everything, but I don't have to be indoctrinated to a lesser ritual to touch those strings.

I'm not bashing the ritual. I'm just saying that I'm as close to it as any holy man.

I...AM...BEOWULF...AND...THIS...IS...SPARTA!

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
It's actually a Beowulf moment.

It's actually a Beowulf moment.

In reply to this comment by thinker247:
Another one of those Matt Damon moments?

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
I AM BLANKFIST!

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
Oops! I forgot that you're a fag. That would explain you cupping my balls.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
I didn't like it. You knew wrong.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
I know you'll like this:

http://www.videosift.com/video/If-I-Were-Gay-Mike-And-Tim-Spaced

I'm gonna promote this very soon.. it's awesome!
From the youtube desciption:
FILMS:

00:00 Little shop of horrors
00:14 The Thing
00:16 Jurassic Park/ Poltergeist/ King Kong (1933)/ The return of the Jedi/ Aliens (Cameron)
00:17 Alien (Scott)
00:19 Jaws
00:20 King Kong (1933)
00:22 Ghostbusters
00:24 Godzilla, King of the Monsters (1956)
00:26 The Fellowship of the Ring
00:27 Anaconda
00:28 An American werewolf in London
00:29 Clash of the Titans
00:31 Beowulf
00:32 Ghostbusters
00:34 Dragonslayer
00:36 Predator
00:38 Alien (Scott)
00:40 Dune
00:42 Gremlins
00:44 The Fellowship of the Ring
00:46 Pan's Labyrinth
00:47 Clash of the Titans
00:49 Aliens (Cameron)
00:51 Beetlejuice
00:53 King Kong (1933)
00:55 Jurassic Park
00:56 Godzilla, King of the Monsters (1956)
00:59 Jurassic Park
00:59-01:00 Critters
01:01 Dragonslayer
01:03 Willow
01:05 Them!
01:07 Starship Troopers
01:08 Men in Black
01:09 Arachnophobia
01:10 Jaws
01:11 Tremors
01:12 The Empire strikes back
01:13 Beowulf
01:14 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
01:15 The Return of the Jedi
01:16 Dragonslayer
01:18 Gremlins
01:20 The Host
01:21 Ghostbusters
01:22 Bram Stoker's Dracula
01:23 Gremlins 2
01:24 King Kong (2005)
01:25 Tremors
01:26 Aliens (Cameron)
01:27 The Empire strikes back
01:27 Clash of the Titans
01:28 Hellboy
01:29 Lake Placid
01:30 The Fellowship of the Ring
01:31 An American werewolf in London
01:32 Alien (Scott)
01:33 From Dusk till Dawn
01:34 Krull
01:35 Jason and the Argonauts
01:36 Little Shop of Horrors
01:37 The Army of Darkness
01:38 The Fellowship of the Ring
01:39 Time Machine
01:40 The Attack of the Clones
01:41 Howard the Duck
01:43 End of days
01:44 Aliens (Cameron)
01:45 The Attack of the Clones
01:46 Jurassic Park
01:47 Clash of the Titans
01:48 The Relic
01:49 Pitch Black
01:49 Resident Evil
01:50 The Princess Bride
01:51 Beetlejuice
01:52 Jurassic Park
01:52 Ghostbusters
01:53 Evolution
01:54 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
01:55 Gremlins 2
01:55 Ewok adventure
01:56 Ghostbusters
01:57 Anaconda
01:58 Creature from the Black Lagoon
01:58 Starship Troopers
01:59 The Return of the King
02:00 The Fellowship of the Ring
02:01 The Blob (1988)
02:02 King Kong (2005)
02:03 Deep rising
02:04 Mimic
02:05 Little Shop of Horrors
02:06 Mars Attacks!
02:07 King Kong (2005)
02:08 Cloverfield
02:09 20000 leagues under the sea (1954)
02:10 Aliens (Cameron)
02:11 Beetlejuice
02:11 Anaconda
02:12 Bram Stoker's Dracula
02:12 Doom
02:13 Independence Day
02:14 Jeepers Creepers 2
02:14 Lake Placid
02:15 Clash of the Titans
02:15 An American werewolf in London
02:16 Cat people
02:17 Evil Dead 2
02:17 The Thing
02:18 The Fly (1986)
02:19 The Blob (1988)
02:20 The Thing
02:21 Legend
02:22 The Twilight Zone
02:23 Aliens (Cameron)
02:24 The Twilight Zone
02:24 Evil Dead II
02:25 The Descent
02:26 Poltergeist
02:27 Aliens (Cameron)
02:28 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
02:29 Beowulf
02:29 Jaws
02:30 The Return of the King
02:30 Deep Rising
02:31 The Faculty
02:32 The Host
02:33 Anaconda
02:36 Evolution
02:38 Cloverfield
02:40 Godzilla
02:41 The Two Towers
02:42 Cloverfield
02:43 Beowulf
02:45 King Kong (1933)
02:46 Howard the Duck
02:48 The Host
02:49 Jaws
02:51 The Return of the Jedi
02:53 Jurassic Park
02:55 Men in Black
02:56 Willow
02:58 King Kong (2005)
02:59 Deep Rising
03:01 Anaconda
03:02 Little Shop of Horros
03:05 Cloverfield

I was waiting for the operator to begin speaking (the true test)!

So finally, we have great-looking CG modeling that actually looks like it can speak (I'm looking at the lip/mouth animations in particular).

All the Hollywood CG films I've seen that attempt this kind realism-even-while-speaking (Polar Express, Final Fantasy, Beowulf) fail. Sure, those films look great...how could they not? But the characters in them do not look much like they're speaking.

So I'd say it's not comparable. This is better.

Motion capture sucks. It never looks as good as decent quality animation and if you're going to use realistic human styled characters moving in ways humans can move (ie no superhero moves, cartoony moves or exaggerated movement) then you should just be filming with real actors.

This is why Beowulf and Polar Express sucked.

Aside from which, most motion capture is not clean, it needs an animator to fix all the little issues that occur anyhow. See Max Steel Season 3 Episode 1 where Max and Kat are fighting with staffs down a staircase and onto pilings for an example of "motion capture" that's actually about 75% properly animated because it's nearly impossible for the mocap crew to actually perform that crap. Believe me it would have been less animation work to just animate it from the beginning.

Wasn't she in Beowulf?

I think this compilation was made pre-Beowulf. I wasn't such a big fan, but him screaming "I am the teeth in the darkness," etc, as he slammed Grendel's arm in the door would have fit well here.

Indeed.

But where in the effin bloody 'ell is "I AM BEOWULF!!!!!!" ?? Contrary to my expectations that was a great film.

Thanks! You can talk about Beowulf all you want too.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
*quality

Funny. Just watched Beowulf yesterday.

IMO Angelina's scene is by far the only moment worth of watching in this movie. Effects are okay but especially the faces (women's in particular) look awkwardly artificial.

The only reason for me to watch this movie to the end was the fact that i got it on BluRay and it was my premier 1080p movie on my new tellie ;-)

This was one heck of a movie, although I admit, I've yet to meet a girl that liked it even half as much as any of my friends.

MG - I was of very similar mind before I saw it - never liked motion capture CGI, never watched Polar Express for this reason, but when my wife insisted on seeing Beowulf (she likes 'cartoons', what can I say? ), I was most pleasantly surprised.

Just for you, Mr. Fist.

500 Diamond?! Great Jesuits! Congratulations, KP! Very exciting, bro. I'd be even happier for you if you liked Beowulf, but everyone has their faults. Congrats, amigo. Your new power will be the ability to invoke *instastrip for Choggie so you can see him naked for a period of one hour. So, go forth and burn out your retinas to your heart's content.

And, DFT, I think Kronos has already lost his "faction creation" privileges.

I never saw Beowulf, but I'm a sucker for 3D.