Yeah, let the other party do the vetting of our own candidate, woooo!

I smell Tate's "A rape victim should be held responsible for getting raped" level of logic here.

Odd, the Trump unsupervised PPP “loans” that Cons all took advantage of, then had forgiven (the same rich people who fought against student loan forgiveness)….that has no impact I guess?

Yeah…the timeline says no, not really. The QE and handouts happened in 2020 and early 21 as Tesla was skyrocketing, not what made them crash. You are just blathering.
Remember, you 100% denied the insane unheard of level of QE Trump did had anything to do with inflation, proving you have 0 grasp of economics.
Pumping money into the system is the only guaranteed way to cause inflation, and Trump did it more than any other president in history. He saw it as a way to spend more off the books. In fact, it was an unapproved tax on every American in the form of massive inflation you simply blamed on Biden for years. Kind of hard to swallow your sudden realization that printing money hurts the economy when you absolutely denied it when your guy printed money….over 40% of all money ever printed was printed in 2020. Where was this bob in 2020? It’s true, the money printing by Trump and to a much lesser extent Biden increased inflation significantly…but that doesn’t account for Tesla crashing twice as bad as other car companies.

He’s correct, we will end the fossil fuel industry. Importantly he gave no timeline in your clip. Reality is under Biden oil and gas production is up….but refining capacity down. The only way he could directly effect that is nationalizing oil and gas companies and forcing them to lower their profit margins to pre pandemic levels.
Reality is you were simply lied to, again, we were not a net exporter of energy under Trump. Only during the summer, in winter we imported more than we shipped out in summer. Net importers.

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-12-19/u-s-poised-to-become-net-exporter-of-crude-oil-in-2023

Since you’ve been misled, you should understand Biden only halted NEW leases of federal oil fields until the companies that want them use the leases they already have. Oil companies want to buy the fields but not drill, creating more shortages and higher prices/profits. Biden insists they make use of the land already leased before locking out tens of millions more federal acres from exploitation by their competition or any other use.

We still export oil, and import it. Our refining capabilities went down under Trump when he ok’ed the sale of the biggest refinery in America to the Saudis and they instantly cut production. In 2020, our demand went down, but not below our production.

Oil companies lost a combined $76 billion over 2020, then made over $2 trillion profits 2021 and $4 trillion 2022. Utter bullshit it’s just making their losses back. An outright bold faced lie that relies on ignorance of any facts to be believed.

Trump ok’ed the murder of American citizens by the crown prince, bragged about protecting him from murder charges. Trump gave the Saudis top secret information about dissidents in their country which they paid son in law Kushner $2 billion for then murdered them. These included people working for America.
Trump also sold the Saudis our refining capabilities without which them being pissed would make no difference if we were actually a net exporter (we aren’t, never were) and still owned our infrastructure (we don’t), the evil murderous Saudis would have no leverage at all. Duh.

Yeah. Thanks for the spoiler...ANT!

“Musick has Charms to soothe the savage Breast/to soften Rocks, or bend a knotted Oak,” -William Congreve (1670-1629)

(Yeah, I had to research these two words because I was distracted by Ellen in class. She was a babe.)

-Musick

VERB TRANSITIVE
to compose music for (a poem, libretto, etc.)

-Breast

VERB
face and move forward against or through (something).
"I watched him breast the wave"

Yeah, there's a reason they don't use armored Priuses. These dudes really did not think through this from the armored truck driver's perspective at all...

Yeah…Elon doesn’t have enough problems right now, time for him to merge his car and his rocket companies and get his cars to become unguided missiles. Next step is Twitter integration to target non verified pedestrians. That will make $8 for verification seem worth it!

Holy shit!
Sometimes unbelievable acceleration and AI driven steering isn’t such a good thing. Yikes!

Oops this turned into a semi rant. But I am legitimately open to discussion here, and am curious to get your thoughts on a few points Bob. That is, IF you're willing to actually think about them beyond the level of repeating talking points.

I find it interesting how divergent the two overall "sides" are in this country, in terms of where they focus. None of the issues brought up in this video are really on the radar of most progressives, beyond being aware some on the right are talking about them. And I'm guessing a lot of the concerns progressives discuss rarely come up in your chosen media landscape. A lot of the issues in the video are largely off of my radar, and I have to wonder how you feel they should be addressed - like, actual proposed solutions rather than just complaining about / worrying about them.

We only dedicate one day to remember our fallen soldiers

How many should there be? Arguably we have more than one already: there's Memorial Day and Veterans Day, and it seems that Sept 11th is often used for the purpose as well.

I'd argue we should spend more time acknowledging and understanding the principals behind WHY our soldiers died in the various conflicts which caused them to fall in the first place. Let's make sure our citizenry appreciates what we collectively rejected in the Revolutionary war. Why it was important that we kept the country together rather than allowing the south to split off in the mid-1800s. Why we chose to honor our diplomatic agreements and support our allies in WW1. Why we fought against the countries and governments we did in WW2. What our goals were in Korea and Vietnam, and what lessons we learned from those conflicts and from the Cold War in general. Commemorating and remembering those we've lost absolutely matters, but if we're ONLY doing that while forgetting why they fought OR ignoring what we learned then we're doing them an equal or greater disservice. Remember that America was built on the idea of forming "a more perfect union" - not a perfect one, a MORE perfect one - a work in progress. We're striving towards an ideal, not assuming we're already there. Learning from our past successes, failures, and our struggles around both outcomes is vital. If our self-analysis is no deeper than hero worship we'll never make real progress towards that theoretical perfect union.

The only mask that's gonna save us is duct tape on their mouths

Yeah, sound medical advice and evidence-based science is terrifying. Better to shut up those whose words we dislike, because we're reactionary authoritarian babymen. I truly do not understand being more afraid of reasonable safety measures than of a virus which has been shown to cause serious harm in the short and long terms. The only reason this "masks = liberal / maskless = conservative" crap came about is because politics has devolved to the level of team sports in the US, and one party has chosen "the opposite of whatever our political opponents say" as their entire governing philosophy. (And yes, ONE party - research and understand the GOP's 2020 platform if you want to argue the point.) This video even seems to reach a reasonable conclusion at the end, while coming up just short of that final logical leap to "maybe I should question what the public faces of MY side have been claiming in this Us vs Them madness." Seriously - keep going friend, you're almost there! George Washington was 100% right in wanting to avoid political parties being a force in the US, and it makes me immensely sad that his fears came true.

Big oil runs the world / the only wars to get fought are with the countries who have natural resources they want

Solid point here, no sarcasm. The US military has long been a tool of our profit-driven form of "free market" imperialism. A really great way to combat this, specifically with an eye to ending Big Oil's goddamn death grip on our foreign policy goals, would be an aggressive implementation of renewable energy projects. Remember the space race? America can be an absolute beast at clever engineering solutions when we dedicate ourselves to it. Fuck the petrostates, we have the available land and resources to absolutely kick ass in the realms of solar and wind power, and be leaders in the the post-hydrocarbon reality. We can certainly agree on that, right Bob? Left / Right nonsense fully aside, I think any reasonable American can agree on at least two points: let's stop sending heaps of cash to buy oil off of the Saudis (etc), and Fuck Cancer.

But if a white man acts too white he's white trash / he's a racist he's a bigot he's a monster

What the fuck is this horseshit? What does "acting too white" even fucking look like? Watching NASCAR on a sailboat while listening to polka? Typically when I see racism from white people it's in the form of denying that brown-hued people deal with any additional difficulties in life due to their skin tone, or denying that there have been structural obstacles for them through history, or lamenting that their white children are being burdened with a broader lens on culture or with (gasp! shock!) an accurate accounting of actual US history, including the ugly bits that we shouldn't be proud of (but MUST learn from). I'm progressive / lefty as fuck and there is no aspect of "white culture" or "acting white" which upsets me in the slightest. UNLESS one counts "denying racism exists / has ever existed" as a fundamental value of being white. Which... why would anyone want to claim that nonsense? If you want to listen to classic country music in a rusty pickup truck while driving to an evangelical church, then discuss hockey over Buds after 18 holes with the rest of your tractor pull team, then absolutely go nuts my fellow caucusoid! Just recognize and understand that your life experiences may not be the same as those of others. Further, if we care about trying to avoid unnecessary, avoidable unfairness in life (recognizing that life will never truly be fair, for anyone), then it might be reasonable for some governmental / legal / structural recognition in furtherance of that notion. There is absolutely room for legitimate policy disagreement here without being accused of racism. It's denial of others' reality which tends to garner the label of racist (sexist etc) - steer clear of denying the lived experiences of other people, allow for the possibility they may have encountered difficulties you haven't / won't, and we've room for further discussion.

Edit / final point: I voted the video back up to 0 from the -1 where I found it. Because while I disagree with a lot of the positions taken by the performer, they may have reached them through no fault of their own and with no true malice. Misinformation / disinformation is a devious shit of a motherfucker, and the rot it causes can run deep. It is painful to abandon deeply-held beliefs, on a fundamental level. If nothing else, the video gives us room to discuss some specific viewpoints held by people who think of themselves as good, but which can lead to harm.

Yeah, the Pandemic, China Trade War, and the Russian War had nothing to do with it. On that subject, your comment has nothing to do with this subject. You have not addressed the Republican hypocrisy on this subject. They publicly vote against help, but privately ask for help.

At least you admit that it was already in a downward spiral.

Yeah... animals aren't over farmed at all. Fuck all ya'll carnists! The amount of dead fish there is so fucked up it's wild.

Oh yeah! At least he's not all 1's and 0's like you are.

Keep it up and one day you'll be singing "Daisy"
https://youtu.be/E7WQ1tdxSqI

Lol.
You really have no clue at all, do you?

“Turd like me”….a compliment from you, and hilariously lacking in self awareness.

Actively trolling old videos…me…yeah, that’s it bobby. I’m constantly checking every video ever posted to see if you said something, not just surfing the comments page and correcting your hyperbole and lies and constant hypocrisy. You didn’t look up a 1 1/2 year old video to attempt to advance a far right narrative and gloat, no, that didn’t happen, never.

Q: Are you saying that if this uncorroborated WaPo article based on anonymous sources was critical of Gaetz or Trump you would give it the same credence? I think not. You are so transparent that it’s not even fun…you’re the first person I’ve ever known that makes a better window than you do a door. 😂

Yeah but it would roughly amount to a speeding ticket of 20 miles an hour over the speed limit. I doubt he'd fight it in court.

You sure are. Look at the idiotic nonsense you believe.

This information is directly from the DOJ, not your bogey man THE MEDIA.

Yeah…I’ve seen Fox crying about Biden saying you’re fascists, moaning that he’s dividing us….but how quickly you forget your own slogan….”FUCK YOUR FEELINGS SNOWFLAKES!” If MAGA tears are flowing, we are on the right path. 22+ years of divisive politics from the right calling Democrats everything in the book including pedophile vampires, but calling fascism fascism is going too far. Eat a bag of baby dicks.

Those committing espionage against the United States are the real enemies of the American people, the same people who tried to overthrow the Democratic government.

Several have ended in nothing because the DOJ and AG were acting as Trump’s personal lawyers defending him from government charges instead of how it’s supposed to work where they levie the charges, these are court findings not opinion. Barr was a cover up guy, not the US AG. This is different because he no longer controls the federal prosecutors…and because of the undeniable nature of the multiple serious crimes. Just having the files is a felony he committed hundreds of times, keeping them unsafe is also a felony, lying about having them another felony…he did all 3 hundreds of times over.

Sorry, the DOJ releases are’t spin, they are facts…and facts are he illegally stole dozens/hundreds of top secret documents and kept them unsecured and lied about it repeatedly.

You’re the one squirming in a puddle, buddy.

Yeah, just wait until every scintilla of evidence has been proven in court, like you always do, right? 🤦‍♂️ remember Clinton? You couldn’t keep from pooping your diaper over her for years….over .01% the crimes already proven here…so little it wasn’t criminal, just negligent. This is criminal, intentional, intentionally hidden and lied about under penalty of perjury, and likely shared with hostile foreign powers already with potentially deadly consequences….so suddenly to your ilk national security at the highest level is partisan, only cared about by liberals and only then to hurt Marmalade Mussolini.

So far everything I’ve reported about this treason by the disgraced ex president has turned out to be correct, while every nonsense excuse you give is just that, nonsense.

Lol…EVERY election fraud scheme, and there were many, was a Republican scheme perpetrated by Republicans to get more votes for Trump. EVERY SINGLE ONE little boy. Election fraud was done by Trump and the Trumpists over and over and over and over…..voting multiple times, all Trumpists…trying to invalidate millions of valid votes, Trump… The election fraud fraud was also PURE Trump….idiot. That’s the big fraud among multiple small frauds….then the coup, Trump. Such insane delusion…only a true moron could be so gullible. YOU CANNOT POINT TO ONE ACTUAL DEMOCRATIC ELECTION FRAUD CASE only nonsense lies Fox fed you, I’ve shown you dozens of actual, prosecuted Republican frauds. (Being told by election officials you qualify to vote when you don’t, then registering to vote does not count btw)