>> ^longde:
Once again, Jon knocks it out of the park.
This a sure sign of America's decline, when our great minds find more profit and fulfillment in chicanery than in doing something that would add value to the nation. You know, Ann Coulter was the president of the Yale Law Review, so she knows better, too.
To some extent, I have empathy, because I have gotten quite cynical myself.


To be fair, Ann Coulter only got to sully the Michigan Law Review, and she was only an editor. Still pretty bad, but not nearly as prestigious.

And there are morons to be found at every elite university in the world. Example.

Once again, Jon knocks it out of the park.

This a sure sign of America's decline, when our great minds find more profit and fulfillment in chicanery than in doing something that would add value to the nation. You know, Ann Coulter was the president of the Yale Law Review, so she knows better, too.

To some extent, I have empathy, because I have gotten quite cynical myself.

http://www.overpopulation.org/
http://www.overpopulation.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpopulation
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337815,00.html
http://www.cosmosmith.com/human_population_crisis.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/09/25/overpopulation.overview/index.html
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/eye/overpopulation/overpopulation.html
http://www.overpopulation.com/faq/countries-of-the-world/asia/china/chinas-one-child-policy/
http://www.planetpapers.com/Assets/6135.php
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1998/7/98.07.02.x.html
http://www.galtoninstitute.org.uk/Newsletters/GINL9303/poverty.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Essay_on_the_Principle_of_Population
http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?p=174
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2haR-nJc9fU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCk508EaT6w&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce-0iRrt66g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmEosykOesE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znCdbq9ZE14&feature=related
http://www.population-awareness.net/newsScan.html

Ok WP , you still cant provide good links to peer reviewed data huh ?
This is a report ( sorry pdf ) that details paleoclimate carbon ppm measurements ,
and surprise , theorizes those high levels are the case of the high temperatures .
http://earth.geology.yale.edu/~ajs/1991/04.1991.03Cerling.pdf

also
The only thing that is political in this movement is that studied observation MAY lead the way to better governance
The word is MAY , as in might , or possibly .

Have you ever heard the ultimate conspiracy theory?
It goes like this .
I don't believe in any conspiracies , because if i believed in a conspiracy , it would mean i knew something about said conspiracy , and therefore would be a danger to it , and therefore it would be a danger to me , therefore i don't believe in any conspiracies .
Circular logic is what it's called .
So what your saying is ALL the governments in the whole world except the U.S. , as they did not sign the Kyoto Accord , are working together to rip you off .
Paranoia is the easiest form of narcissism.

So lets say they win , and it's false, what do they do with all the tax money ?
How do they keep from getting whacked by a disgruntled polity?

Ok lets say they lose , and it's real .
We lose 1/3 of the worlds population , weighted more heavily among the poor , and populations near any coastline . Wasn't it well over 50% of the world population that lives within 50 miles of the coast ? We gain 40 feet , 12.19 meters , of sea level . Hence the title of this video .

Option 3 is obviously , They win and it's real .
Well they may be able to slow it down before it goes into a self-sustaining loop .
All that methane hydrate stored at the bottom of glaciers doesn't come bubbling lose . All that carbon sequestered in the permafrost stays put. Which it isn't .
http://www.321energy.com/editorials/lamontagne/lamontagne080109.html
Maybe governments have a few extra resources to deal with all the problems that will be caused by it . They still wont have enough because even their reports have been watered down .

Option 4 , They lose , and it's false .
I have a hard time addressing this one , as the odds of the latter are so low, though the odds of the former are well , a real possibility .

"Let's see... are you qualified to be a Fox News reporter?"

"Of course! I graduated from Yale, I acted as a consultant on the 9th circuit of appeals..."

"Right. Double D?"

"What?

"Tits. How big are yours?"

"Uh... what does that have to do with fair and balanced news reporting?"

"Nothing. So 'C'? Double 'C'?"

"Double 'C', yes."

"Hmmm... okay. You can report on the Middle East..."

>> ^Farhad2000:
Look at Bush. Yale boy makes it out like he's a ordinary joe cowboy aww shucks I can have a beer with him.

Indeed, and then look at all the shit he did while playing off that image!
Do you not think there's a possibility the same thing could be happening, just with a different, friendlier face, and in a more subtle manner?

Of course its marketing.

It's willful ignorant to assume otherwise, they are selling an individual to you. This has been the game plan ever since the televised debate between JFK and Nixon.

Look at Bush. Yale boy makes it out like he's a ordinary joe cowboy aww shucks I can have a beer with him.

Transcript:
http://oyc.yale.edu/philosophy/death/content/transcripts/transcript11.html

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The Gonzaga University School of Law is a private, "Jesuit" institution and is consistently ranked as a second tier law school ... providing an excellent legal education informed by our humanistic, Jesuit and Catholic traditions and values.
-So you can judge where these opinions are coming from.
http://www.law.gonzaga.edu/

DAVID K. DeWOLF
1979 J.D., Yale Law School
1971 B.A., Stanford University
His Resume: http://guweb2.gonzaga.edu/~dewolf/resume.htm
Highly involved in religeous writings, Religion & Law - Tort Law

Saw you link to it in the Sift Lounge - http://www.videosift.com/video/Harvard-Beats-Yale-29-29-Official-Trailer

^dystopianfuturetoday,

I don't think it is probable to achieve success without defining your goals. The goal "I'd just like a decent health care system, more effective schools and better life for the everyday working stiff" is rather vague. Can you try and be more specific?

You claim that education, healthcare, and medicine are not advanceable by capitalism. Would you not agree that private medical practice has been the mainstay of our healthcare system? As far as I can tell, the vast majority of all healthcare providers are private individuals or companies interested in making money. All major medicine manufacturers are private and also interested in money. Esteemed private colleges and schools, such as Duke, Harvard, Yale; again all interested in making money. I'll give you infrastructure only because its not as clear-cut.

Do you really have a problem the quality of healthcare available in america, or do you have a problem with access for the average person? Do you really think we need more effective schools, or do you think the average person can't afford effective education? I'm not sure what comprises your idea of a better life, but how can such an ambiguous goal ever be realized?

It sounds like your problem is with access, rather than actual quality, yet I will not know for sure until you are more clear about your goals. If my assumption is true, why are you trying to overhaul the system itself, when all you really need to do is increase access? In my mind, that is like ripping out a door and installing a new one rather than making an extra key.

If you have evolved past the early 20th century capitalist/socialist tintypes, why are you trying to paint my arguments with such terms, and how can you even use such terms if you haven't read the material from which they were derived? You did the same with blankfist when calling him an anarchist. If you did it to him, how can you be so sure you aren't doing it to me?

I will admit, your disdain for history is troubling. The primary reason you aren't in a jungle hunting wild boar is because of human history, and the knowledge your ancestors have passed down. To disrespect that knowledge, and throw that out the window because you think "we know everything" in the 21st century, is I think, very dangerous in many ways.