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Media and Democrats are in cahoots

bobknight33 says...

@newtboy



You believe that Biden Economic policy is a winner?
You think inflation is a non issue?
You think his border control is under control?
You think Afghanistan withdraw was not fucked?

You think Biden ratings tanking on all measures are some right wing conspiracy?

What grade would you give Biden and his Congress?

Viral How Much Did Your Divorce Cost

newtboy says...

Lol.
She got out of a marriage she obviously didn't want to be in with you. I think she came out on top, no matter what it cost her financially (likely not very much).

If she had a lawyer and you didn't, but you kept more than half the marital assets, she obviously was willing to just leave with nothing just to get out, because she could have fought for more, but that would extend the marriage. That story doesn't make you the winner you think it does.

Really, it sounds like you got a house worth under $6000 and a dog, she got cash, her ride, and her freedom.

TangledThorns said:

I divorced my cheating wife without paying for a lawyer. She paid for one and I got to keep house and the dog, she got to keep her car and got $6, 000. I think she didn't want to push it as I had recording of her cheating, lol. Yeah, I think I came out on top.

Viral How Much Did Your Divorce Cost

newtboy says...

So weird seeing people disagree with you and offering various examples of marriages that contradict your blanket statements and then you go off spouting shit about subjective pitfalls some minority still experience after being married as if those outcomes are the only possible outcomes or even the norm.
What you two mean to say is DIVORCE is win win for the woman and lose lose for the man, still dead wrong but at least it's the point you two are trying to make.

Objectively, by the numbers, in terms of who benefits if the marriage ends, it's neither in no fault states.

It's asinine of you two to assume the man always has more assets, and more earning power. It's maybe true on average but it's trending away from that, and it's absolutely not in every instance.

My brother won. He got full custody and child support. No alimony for either. In Texas, a non no fault state where the woman is assumed to be the primary child raising parent.

Really, you still think most women don't work? Are you still living in the 1960's? My wife works, has since before we met in 92. I retired in early 2000's. If we divorced, I would get alimony.

I've known plenty of women who lost in marriage, not sure where you come up with that, and for over 1/2 the population, divorce is 50/50 split of marital assets, no winner.

It's only men in fault states who caused the dissolution of the marriage or don't fight for custody that get screwed as you describe. Most of us tossed out the system you describe decades ago. Most of us understand that while women still get paid less for the same work, that's no guarantee she makes less than her husband. As for "marrying up".... plenty of men do that too. Even if your significant other is a homemaker, they contribute enormously to the marriage, at one point they determined the jobs a homemaker does would cost over $80 K per year if you hired people.

With your opinion about women and marriage, I doubt you need to worry about the kind of woman who would marry you. The ones who accept the outdated misogynistic patriarchal mindset you show aren't the ones with much to offer, the desperate and insecure who will take whoever accepts them. They might resemble the women in your descriptions. Treat women better and you'll attract better women.

What makes you think you are some prize that only a near perfect woman would be acceptable to? It sure sounds like you're alone now. How is making the perfect the enemy of the great working for you?

Again, many states have changed the law to no fault, 50/50 splits with no prenup. Hard to be more fair. You complain about issues most Americans evolved out of.

scheherazade said:

So weird seeing people disagree with you, and then go off spouting shit about subjective benefits while married.

Biden Has A Lot To Boast About In New Covid Relief Bill

StukaFox says...

Bob, as much as this'll surprise you, I totally agree with what you're saying. The distribution of the stimulus money to couples making up to $150,000 is friggen ridiculous -- and I'm in that category. I will do what I did with the last two checks: give to local charities helping the homeless and communities of color (as much as I hate that term).

The worst part of this is that it sets up a liquidity trap. The Fed can't reduce buying crap debt (that BBB dogshit is at 4% should terrify anyone who understands how debt and the rating agencies work), nor can they allow rates to rise (thus totally screwing responsible savers). This is the cusp of a financial disaster that blew past 1929 on 9/17/19 and is now approaching the cataclysm of the South Seas Company collapsing. As far as I can see, this is a total melt-up in the markets because there's no stable returns and everyone is now in speculation mode.

Were it my call, I would scale the money along income (or non-income) lines: $10k for the lowest incomes, sliding scale from there. I'd also set up government-backed savings accounts that pay 10% for those people and only those people. I'd also pay off/down student debt along the same income scales.

I do not begrudge the wealthy for their wealth. But capitalism can't be a winner-take-all system. We live in a society, and society will always have winners and losers. The least we can do is ease the burden for those at the bottom by taking some from the top. I'm tired of the homeless camps and mentally-ill people wandering the streets of Seattle. They are the least of us and thus should be the ones who get the most help.

bobknight33 said:

End of the day Americans got $1400 and a tax bill for 1.9 Trillion.

Again, Americans got screwed.

The Elder Joes IV: Oblivion

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Let's talk about Trump's accomplishments...

newtboy says...

But we KNOW he’s willing to give up democracy, sovereignty, solvency, even liberty for Trump.
Yes, I did note he didn’t dispute that Trumpism is fascism....but I’m pretty sure he doesn’t understand the term because he’s labeled the last election and it’s winner a fascist in the past.

smr said:

Jeez man. All that work! Just grant him his lies, then ask him if he's willing to give up democracy for that. You'll note he didn't do a thing to refute the fascism claim. Paraphrasing Franklin and with an eye to Russia: Those that would give up Democracy for a little prosperity deserve neither and will lose both. Thank god our institutions and self image are stronger than that egoist.

Communist Targeted Minorities; Leader Vows To take down USA

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

That's what you have to tell yourself to get through the day....but there was absolutely no evidence produced of that.

If the election was stolen, then Democrats also control the Senate because those republican senators didn't actually win their elections. Can't have it both ways....and you can't explain how or why only the presidential portion was effected by fraud but not the rest of the ballot. If it was stolen, it would have been across the board. So asinine, little Bobby. You're grasping at straws.

If democrats stole it, they have suddenly become the ultimate Ocean's 80 million, pulling off the most intricate heist without leaving a trace. If they are that competent, they should definitely be running the country....but thinking they are that competent means ignoring their entire history.

My election was stolen in 2016 when the "winner" had over 3 million fewer votes than the "loser". When the person with the most votes loses, that's a stolen election, not when the person with millions more votes wins. Duh. This isn't Russia.

Now get out there, destroy the GOP and boycott Georgia like Trump ordered.

bobknight33 said:

Stolen election.
Someday they will steal yours.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Wisconsin recount is done, Trump spent $3million to recount the two predominantly minority counties in Wisconsin. For his money, he bought Biden 87 more votes.
Now he's trying to invalidate early in person voting in just those counties, but the law he's challenging is state wide, so if he wins (under 1% chance) he invalidates ALL in person early voting in the state, which will only increase Biden's lead more. That's what happens when your lead attorney has full blown dementia.

Arizona certifies Monday, Wisconsin Tuesday. Both for Biden. A historic landslide victory, this time the winner has more votes too!
D'oh!

Republicans in 2018 Post-Midterm Elections

newtboy says...

Because there's zero chance he can win, and every hour of delay in allowing the transition to proceed 50 Americans die.

No, they report the official count. Reasonable people understand when it's impossible to swing the results and, for the good of the country, concede and facilitate a transition. All the silly challenges can continue after that, they don't stop counting because one candidate concedes, and they don't just toss out court cases either.

Since there's no evidence of illegal votes, that's not worth responding to. Votes are vetted in multiple ways before being counted. Thousands of dead people, non citizens, and fraudsters haven't voted....it's a lie, there's zero evidence, only liars words. The vote fraud found was all about not delivering mail in ballots, and all done by Republicans. Over 300000 missing in post offices after the USPS was ordered to sweep all sorting rooms for missing ballots, an order they ignored at DeJoy's direction.

If it wasn't life or death for thousands in the balance, I would agree, but thanks to the worst leader in living memory it is. What's the harm allowing Biden's team access to intelligence so they can vet a cabinet? Biden already has top clearance....but is being blocked out of pure spite. In the .000001% chance Trump manages to flip the results, how would it hurt anything that Biden had a team ready? Trump doesn't need to concede, he can keep instigating his cult to commit terroristic acts and chant "stop the count...count the votes....stop the count...count the votes", and to make up false claims of fraud in hopes of collecting the million dollar reward (bribe to commit perjury) Trumpco has offered.

Let the cases play out, they're being tossed constantly since they have no evidence at all of consequential fraud, only lies and Russian videos,...but since it's clear who won and no fraud case can change that, stop blocking the peaceful transition and hurting the union. Stop wasting hundreds of millions on preparing for a fantasy Trump budget but zero on preparing for Biden, who won. If Trump is declared the winner officially, then stop cooperating with Biden then....no harm no foul.

Carter conceded before the polls closed in the West because he clearly put the nation first over his ego (Reagan's final vote percentage was lower than Biden's btw, Biden is now over 5 million votes ahead) , Trump won't ever concede, he might claim it was stolen and he can't stop it, eroding trust in our system and creating terrorists, he won't ever say he lost or cooperate in a transition. The former hurts confidence in the system, the latter delays the transition and will kill more people for no reason besides sour grapes.

bobknight33 said:

Why should Trump concede? Biden has not officially won.

Media does not officially call the election.
Let it play out out.


? you want all votes counted. Even illegal votes?

Trump will have to turn around 5 states.
Tall order, Sit back and let it play out.

Republicans in 2018 Post-Midterm Elections

newtboy says...

In reality, there's no other choice since there's zero chance the current president will concede or cooperate with a smooth transition.

Once there's no chance remaining votes uncounted or contested could sway the election, a point we are well past, any challenges are academic and couldn't change results, so there's no reason to refuse to acknowledge that fact, especially when it's spurring right wing terrorists to act and dividing the nation, another point we past days ago. The obstinance is harmful to the nation and our institutions, like Trump is trying to burn the government down on his way out the door. No democrat has ever done this in similar circumstances. There's a theory that he's only doing it to bilk his followers out of more money towards his "legal defense fund" that really goes to pay off campaign debt and directly into his pockets with a small portion paying lawyers like Giuliani to lose cases. He's millions in debt there too, and it becomes his personal debt when he's out of office....with near a billion due next year, he needs every penny he can con them out of.

Normally the clear winner would be being brought up to speed on things like covid response and international relationships even if they weren't declared the official winner yet. (Edit: They would also have access to top secret intelligence all previous presidents (except Trump) use to vet their cabinet, being denied that information severely hampers Biden's ability to properly vet them, holding up his nominations. Thanks to Trump's disastrous covid response, Biden needs to be fully ready to change policies day one, it's life or death for 1000+ Americans every day he's delayed.) This time, with a petulant toddler throwing a tantrum for the next 2+ months, that might not help, because there's no telling what damage he might do before then. Biden is just making his own plans instead, preparing to start work day one no matter what dumpster fires Trump sets. That said, this obstinate denial of the results and sewing division, making up and repeating baseless charges to discredit the election (looking at you) have real world disastrous consequences and weakens the state of the union. It's clear the plan was to rely on the Trump appointed judges to rubber stamp the baseless claims and hand him a win. So far it hasn't worked, but it could. That's why we should care about the dozens of frivolous lawsuits, if his judges decide to be the lackeys he expects them to be, they could actually steal the election in court....but it would spark nationwide unrest if not insurgency.

greatgooglymoogly said:

Yes, Republicans are hypocrites, but so are the Dems if they aren't willing to wait for the process to finish before insisting the race is over. We managed to wait till December back in 2000 to find a resolution, that ended up fine. If they were consistent they wouldn't care about lawsuits or complain about the GAO not helping the Biden transition.

Trump: Biden Will "listen to the scientists"

noseeem says...

some brains are more prone to 'rot' than others. belief is unlikely as a leading cause. EX: google: Nobel winner in 'racist' claim row

w/o other examples would point out some astrophysics theories resemble Hindu theology. some religious practices are supported by scientific studies in the area of psychology.

additionally, some poets were errorless when pointing out the truth of human behavior before there was scientific evidence to prove the stanzas.

seemly, there are diamonds and ore in the mines of all people. (note the prior source for verification)

humility can keep all on their toes.

we all make mistakes...hell! voted for reagan once!

being wrong is the only thing most folks can count on. don't know anyone hasn't done this kinda thing ->please Google: Steve Earle & The Dukes - "If I Could See Your Face Again" and listen to one of the world's greatest regrets

listening to that, thinking of covid and the potus' ultimate 'success' rate, hard to miss the truth of it all

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

BSR says...

I like how Trump is finally beginning to talk about leaving the country when he is voted out. He will have to leave unless they put him in prison first.

A real whiner instead of a fake winner.

Harris 2020

bobknight33 said:

I see the story of Twitter banning real black supporters calling them fake black supporters. Stop watching fake news.

Trump will get a larger % of minority voters than 2016 and will help result in a MEGA landslide 2020

Are you going one of those who break down ad cry like a bitch on election night or are you a donor to ANTIFA, A radical fascist origination backed by the left?

Doc Rivers

BSR says...

I think what's also important is that these videos live forever. They are a timeless warning to future generations. Even if Trump is not elected there is going to be some serious denial lingering afterwards. These videos are a record of the fight for Democracy and how it was won. Everybody, winners and losers will learn something.

SFOGuy said:

Here's the thing: what is the audience for this incredibly well made video? Because 94%+ of Republicans say they will vote for the President again.

Are the Lincoln folks trying to set up a future in which they were not the ones who went down with the Trump ship? (he's still even odds in Vegas to win the election)

I dunno. I enjoy the ads--but---I'm not sure who the audience is.



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