Add in the Delta 6 Gun Controller and you're all set.

I've also seen people using Omni+Oculus+Razer Hydra (kinda like a Wii-mote or PS3 Move controller, but also senses relative position from the base station)

Well, at the time they were the only console doing online well. They also had superior hardware and a far superior development environment (which was already familiar to PC devs) which led to a lot of high quality games in a short amount of time.

I assume you'll be buying a Wii U?

I think it's the emphasis on everything but gaming that gets people bent out of shape. It is pretty ridiculous.
Even more so when you consider that Nintendo is the only one that is focusing on the games, and they've made such ridiculous design decisions that they're still not a guaranteed alternative. I really feel like Nintendo would sweep the market if they had dropped a console that was nothing but gaming, minus any external stupidity (i.e. with a rationally designed controller).
I work in the game industry, and I'm checking out of the next console generation. I wasn't eager to go in for the last one, and as it's finally rolling to an end I look back on a half-used Wii that overheats if I don't have a fan on it at all times, and having purchased two 360s and two PS3s because the first ones both failed in a year due to shit manufacturing.
I'm glad I'm still allowed to build my own PC.

I want a game console, not a multimedia internet device. I already have that, it s called a PC.

And thus the pendulum swings back. The Xbox made me love consoles again...now I'm back to playing mostly PC games again.

People want convergence. With all the cross platform games out there, I hardly matters anymore if you've got an Xbox, Wii, or PS. They only buy specific consoles for the exclusives, but if there are only one or two of them, it's not worth it.

What gamers what is what these companies will never give them: convergance. The ability to play any game on any platform. games need to become platform neutral. or make a single platform that can be loaded on any OS

Nintendo Wiis sure have a lot of bugs.

Honestly though... That about sums up my feelings from any trade show exposition. They are always pomp and circumstance, and have never gotten a rise out of me. Maybe the initial Wii unveiling, because it was something truly different and promising.

What cracks me up is ... people still watch TV??? That really seems like a Darwinian failure to pursue such a dying medium with a device created to support a superior one.

Oh yeah, still definitely is. I meant when they were touting motion controls for the first time, like this is jokingly doing, except Nintendo were serious.

Motion controls will always suck because simply put, there's zero feedback in what you're doing, and there is no precision at all. Anything that requires precision and timing, it's utterly worthless.

At a previous studio I worked at, we made a Wii exclusive game and had jump as shake on the wiimote, after attempts to try and flick in the specific direction you wanted to jump in. What a disaster that was. Then there was flick up, that didn't work either so in the end we went with random shake and even then it was pretty clear, pretty quickly that even this was annoying, but we left it in. In the sequel we had the option to use A as jump (by default), it was much kinder on the wrist.

The problem is that consoles these days don't have anything really new to offer except for more processing power which people really don't give a shit about as much anymore. The Wii proved that you can make a ton of money without having the best GPU/CPU.

You also had this phenomenon of consoles becoming more popular than PCs. But wait, they achieved this because the console added all these extra features...in other words, Consoles started to beat PCs....by becoming more PC-like. Wait a minute...that's not exactly beating PCs then is it?

Especially since I can still do more with a PC than I can do with a Console and I don't have to be restricted by what MS/Sony/Nintendo lock me into.

With the advent of Media PCs...the need for consoles have been lessened unless you specifically want to play a game that is an exclusive for a console.

What people really want is convergence, which is exactly what console makers don't want. I think people are sick of having to buy multiple consoles to play the games they want. When in reality, a PC can do it all and not be limited by these artificial restrictions.

does the PS4 play games? you know...the sole reason anyone would want to buy one?

in fairness, I have the same complaint about the Xbox and Wii. In their feverish scramble to add extra crap to their consoles that no one wanted or asked for, they seem to be neglecting games.

I think the point of things like the Wii controller and Kinnect was to create a new controller that helps to eliminate things like Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.

Moving back to thumbs goes directly opposite to that concept. I play games on my phone now, all thumb games, and I'm well on my way to Carpal Tunnel surgery. (...not exclusively from iPhone thumb games.) So although this small controller concept may feel right at first, I think more needs to be done in the way of ergonomics and less two thumb or finger controls.

I agree that maybe people are getting tired of novelty controllers but I think Wii kicked it off with a step in the right direction. Maybe a few more steps need to be taken?

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