"Natural selection" by definition "selects" genes "naturally" (as explained above), so if you say it selects genes because a god put his finger there you're not talking about "natural selection".

I don't know if you're a Muslim, a follower of Hindu gods, or whatever, but simply stating a phenomenon is caused by Vishnu is not a useful explanation.

Science created the modern world of computers and medicine because it doesn't default to those kinds of conversation-stoppers.

written by joedirt
"I do hope I can tell others about Christ while I am here

Heck, I haven't even mentioned Jesus (ED -- see above for "mention" of JC)

I try to help both Atheists and Theists with my video and now I am being told that I am pushing my beliefs on others. (ED -- see above for mention of desire to push beliefs)

As for telling others about Christ while I am here, I refuse to just act like I don't care whether or not people know Christ (ED -- Unless you are equally open getting to "know" other entities like Mohammed or Buddha or Vishnu or Satan... I'm guessing people don't come to this website to "know Christ" or in any way be converted)


Look, you are welcome to submit videos. Please follow the guidelines and submit interesting videos you found on YouTube or wherever and not ones you uploaded, as you semi-imply ownership of the inspirational limbless guy.

I do appreciate your comments regaring Jesus Camp bowler girl. I'm surprised you haven't seen the movie. It is interesting regardless of your views of evangelicals.

Submit more Christian videos into the queue and don't complain there isn't enough. Probably just not enough interest as most people are saturated with living in Christian nations. You may even make a first post that says, "please keep this discussion civil" on your submitted posts.

But, again, you have no way to demand people remain civil especially with you alterior motives, which for those who have been around awhile can spot like... well like the letter "t" in your avatar.


I didn't tell anyone they're going to Hell. I never even talked about Jesus! Why am I receiving so much fuss over something I haven't even done as of yet?!
You know the sketchy looking teenager who is pacing nervously in a store, looking aroun shiftily. That is you, and we all know where this is going...."
Fine, I mentioned his name, but don't act like I have been pushing my beliefs on others. Telling people about Christ and forcing my beliefs on others are two totally idfferent things. I said I would be here if anyone wanted to know about him. If someone wants to hear it I will be here. I did not, however, say I would force anything on anyone.

Who said I wasn't open? Do not assume to already know me. I certainly will not be as hostile to others wishes to share their faith as you have mine.
I never complained there wasn't enough. I simply stated that I thought there was a need for it and asked if there was anybody interested. I wasn't blaming anybody here for not posting enough "Christian" videos. I just wanted to contribute.

I have no alterior motives. What? Do I have alterior motives simply because I openly profess my faith? Do you just assume that any Christian willing to share their faith has alterior motives? I already said I wouldn't force anything on anyone. I will answer questions, maybe submit a video that helps explains the Bible, but I will not do that where and when it is not wanted. Geez, as for my avatar that's the picture I use for my myspace. I like that avatar because I photoshoped it. Here is my myspace. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=79915810

What is your problem? Why can't people be civil? Why would the fact that I open profess my faith be a problem with people being civil?

Look again at how you are handling this. I have done nothing wrong. I have withheld nothing. Yet you accuse me of alterior motives.

Why? Because I might actually be honest about what I believe? I really hope this isn't the way this site treats all of it's new members.

written by pipp3355
"1. I wouldn't use an ad hominem attack if I was trying to make a coherent and logically robust argument about something.

2. I like raw data, examples and evidence. They are the bread and butter of hypothesis testing and epistemology. I am science-bias in this sense. I prefer ideas / theories / opinions / arguments that are falsifiable and that can be verified to those that are not and cannot be. Specifically, I'm most interested in information which helps us best manipulate our environment/brains/bodies to our evolutionary advantage.

3. Given 1 and 2, I think I'm a believer in scientific method and rational skepticism before I'm a believer in atheism or mind-body materialsm or anything of that ilk."
Umm. Who is #1 directed at?
I can't blame you for #2. I am mostly the same way, minus that last bit on manipulation of our eniviorment.
So you are agnostic?

Hmm. Tell me where you think we came from.
Oh and happy birthday, mine was wednesday. lol.

I do hope I can tell others about Christ while I am here

Heck, I haven't even mentioned Jesus (ED -- see above for "mention" of JC)

I try to help both Atheists and Theists with my video and now I am being told that I am pushing my beliefs on others. (ED -- see above for mention of desire to push beliefs)

As for telling others about Christ while I am here, I refuse to just act like I don't care whether or not people know Christ (ED -- Unless you are equally open getting to "know" other entities like Mohammed or Buddha or Vishnu or Satan... I'm guessing people don't come to this website to "know Christ" or in any way be converted)

Look, you are welcome to submit videos. Please follow the guidelines and submit interesting videos you found on YouTube or wherever and not ones you uploaded, as you semi-imply ownership of the inspirational limbless guy.

I do appreciate your comments regaring Jesus Camp bowler girl. I'm surprised you haven't seen the movie. It is interesting regardless of your views of evangelicals.

Submit more Christian videos into the queue and don't complain there isn't enough. Probably just not enough interest as most people are saturated with living in Christian nations. You may even make a first post that says, "please keep this discussion civil" on your submitted posts.

But, again, you have no way to demand people remain civil especially with you alterior motives, which for those who have been around awhile can spot like... well like the letter "t" in your avatar.

I didn't tell anyone they're going to Hell. I never even talked about Jesus! Why am I receiving so much fuss over something I haven't even done as of yet?!

You know the sketchy looking teenager who is pacing nervously in a store, looking aroun shiftily. That is you, and we all know where this is going....

the extra arms on vishnu

Too bad The Bomb wasn't perfected by 1940: no Hitler, no Mussolini, no Japanese Emperor, no WW2.

Vishnu doesn't give a damn about death...the "duty" he wanted the Prince to fulfill was the slaughter of his former teachers, friends and family members who opposed the Will of the Great One.

"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." I suppose we all thought that one way or another."

source:
http://www.atomicarchive.com/Movies/Movie8.shtml

Greatest quote of all time, and it's a double quote... we guote Oppenheimer quoting myth.

Don't worry, Robert J... this is all just another blink of Vishnu.

There but for the grace of God (or Allah, or Vishnu, or Nil for our atheist friends) goes my own child.