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>> ^KnivesOut:
^ Then down-vote it. Oh, don't have the privileges to down-vote? Sift more.



What the hell? Why are you being such an ass?

You've been a member for 4 years, and your first sift came from 2 years ago, don't tell someone who's been here 7 months to sift more, when you yourself hadn't sifted ANYTHING for 2 goddamn years.

I'm with storm on this, A downvote isn't meant to be taken personally, but we're not just bots sifting videos, we're people. I've downvoted maybe 5 things for my entire stay on the sift, if I disagree with something, I voice my opinion. I may still offend the person who sifted the video but at least they'll know why.

And besides, when the video already has as many votes as it does, what's the point of a downvote? It's not like there's going to be 34 sifters who just suddenly appear out of nowhere, downvote, and then get this video removed.

Now, back on topic, this isn't art. Gwiz's vid isn't really educational. They both, however, fall into the exact same category. I can go out, pee in the snow and call it art. Would I showcase it as art? No, it's not appropriate and it's an insult to those who take their work seriously. Again, this is the set of a porn shoot, its someone with a camcorder, and they've just added a layer of music and a film grain on top. This isn't art, or as people are pointing out, it's not art to me.

Someone hit it on the head earlier, would you show this to an elementry school class, or place this in a museum? can you show it to a group of kids and say "This is beautiful because.." and not offend anybody, parents included?

I'm all for porn, I'm all for artistic nudity. This only falls into one of those though, and it's not art.

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>> ^gwiz665:
@<A rel="nofollow" class=profilelink title="member since June 28th, 2007" href="http://www.videosift.com/member/entr0py">entr0py but that's not really censorship. Like not allowing porn or snuff on videosift is not really censorship either. That's a private citizen/corporation deciding what it wants to have in their sphere. 4chan and any other website is owned by someone and whoever that someone is can setup any rules they want no matter how draconian.
Censorship comes when someone other than the rightful owner demands that something be removed or hidden. Like when and ad agency demands a video removed from here or when a government demands that certain things must not be seen/said in the public space.
People view websites as public spaces, but they're really not. They are private spaces. People are just allowed to peek in the window - and some times they're not (forums with activation to view).


Another thing is, Freedom of Speech only covers the Government not being allowed to pass laws against your speech and views. Private companies such as the Mass Media, and internet providers, can hobble you as much as they want.

A LOT of people don't seem to understand this.

@entr0py but that's not really censorship. Like not allowing porn or snuff on videosift is not really censorship either. That's a private citizen/corporation deciding what it wants to have in their sphere. 4chan and any other website is owned by someone and whoever that someone is can setup any rules they want no matter how draconian.

Censorship comes when someone other than the rightful owner demands that something be removed or hidden. Like when and ad agency demands a video removed from here or when a government demands that certain things must not be seen/said in the public space.

People view websites as public spaces, but they're really not. They are private spaces. People are just allowed to peek in the window - and some times they're not (forums with activation to view).

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Looks *dead to me... = \

Video removed by user apparently.

My, but the standards for picking a roastee have certainly dropped. Choggie was our first recipient of this dubious honour, thanks to his huge contributions to the quality of Videosift, and his ongoing contributions to the incomprehinsibility of the English language via New Orleans redneck gibberish.

Now you get the prize just for showing up. Roasting this nerd, who NOBODY HAS EVER HEARD OF is kind of like giving some random black guy the Nobel Peace Prize just for not being George W Bush.

I mean seriously, this guy's biggest contribution is the great video "Removed due to copyright notification from Comedy Central". I watched that dog for like 10 minutes and here's a newsflash for ya'... NOTHING HAPPENS!!!

I guess it was kind of an art piece or something.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'karasutra, youtube, video removal' to 'karasutra, youtube, video removal, censorship, angries up my blood' - edited by gwiz665

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*kill

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"video removed by user"

See? QM is careful with his words... notice how the "scumball" is not "scum" because he's gay.. he's gay AND a scumball... which, if in reference to Perez Hilton... is pretty accurate.

Yet you walk the line.... oh how you walk it

6/18/09 12AM the gays have had this video *removed due to terms of use violation

"video removed by the user"

Get it while it is hot or until google video removes it....

Video removed? WTF?