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Making The Sift more user friendly (Sift Talk Post)

Warmth- says...

Hi, I'm a long time lurker. I happened to see an interesting 'Videosift lounge' -link in the top of the page yesterday, clicked it, and found out that the site has a chat lounge, which is quite nice!

I wound up chatting with @eric3579, and found out that the chat had been enabled for everyone just a few months ago. We got to talking about how hard it can be for a first time user to find out more information about what VideoSift is, and how it actually works.

I had seen this thread a couple of weeks ago, when I first time tried to find out some extra info on the site. I skimmed @Zawash's great post through for some info (on what power points can be used for etc.) - I didn't find the link to the FAQ then, I found the FAQ-link just today.. as it never occured to me to look for the link at the very bottom of the page, but from the top menu navigation bar instead.

I sketched that above linked image as we chatted, and now I just noticed that @dotdude had suggested just that idea already above. The sketch's question mark and font color is not as cool as the real design is, but in anycase, I too think that something of that sort would be more noticeable/clear place for FAQ/Help for the new people?

Do you guys think that to make this happen, we could perhaps cut the task in to two? One for the mighty Admins, and one for the helpful, interested parties in this talk thread? Admins would create cool graphics and code the link for the help menu, and the layout views for a sectioned help text, and then another task for all the long time pro sifters, in creating all that text for those help sections? A bit like @Zawash has done here?

Could that work be done in anonymous google document (does require Google-account (I think, maybe, note sure if it even requires that), but editing and commenting on the document doesn't reveal identity in any case)?

If there are helpful and knowledgeable people, perhaps this document could be used for the work of creating a good help section and updated FAQ?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hB-bGN9QJ0Wgu7_-jH22eHG3HYJ9_Oj4hG9EWsorNgE/edit?usp=sharing

I'm going to currently just copy all the material from the FAQ in there, and edit it to look nice and clear, and then separate 'Help/instructions' sort of stuff in to another section, and leave only actual basic Questions in the FAQ-section. Anyone's free to help and contribute! And if you come up with a better way of organizing everything, or want to write a completely new section, just use the document and do it!

I'm a total newb when it comes to anything related to actually using this site and its features (only submitted a couple of videos), so I think I'm underqualified for doing this by myself, so I sure hope you guys could help!

Just hop on in to the document and start doing useful stuff when ever!
Don't worry about accidentally doing anything, there's a complete undo feature in Google Docs, and each edit revision is saved as its own version, so if someone decides to vandalize (I heavily doubt anyone would do such a thing!) this, I can get the last good version back, and then put on restrictions on to who can edit etc. But, I'll do those things only if there is a need for that, let's keep the document super easily accessible and commentable for now!

Thanks!

(BTW. I really appreciate all the effort of the Admins and sifters have put in to the site over the years! I believe that there's quite a few other people besides me, who mostly just lurk around, and do not contribute much to the site actively.
That reluctance to participate might of course be due to us lurkers being like we are, but also it could heavily be related to the way in which it's a bit hard to find out about how stuff works currently..)

Trolling People Who Park In Handicap Spots Illegally

Payback says...

For those of you stating no tag = illegally parked, then ya, they are TECHNICALLY parked illegally. That's a legal argument, I would say forgetting to display your tag isn't worth the shock of being vandalized (even if it isn't damaging, the psychological shock is still there).

radx (Member Profile)

alien_concept says...

I want them all to die a painful, drawn out death. "...the worst environment minister we've ever had". Yeah, not so much as the worst cabinet we've ever had. This is what's made my blood boil over this week: http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/michael-gove-ideological-vandalism.html

radx said:

Thanks to George Monbiot, I now consider waterboarding to be an appropriate cure for Owen Paterson's loss of contact with reality.

Disrespectful students during U of O's first snowfall

Payback says...

Nah, he should of just left and called security or the cops. Let them use up some of their pepper spray quota.

This type of stupidity doesn't bug me. No real damage is happening.

When fuckers throw EGGS is when major paint damage occurs. You see someone throw eggs at a car "for fun" you have my permission to smack them around. The cracking egg shells wreck paint terribly. People who egg someone's car are vandalizing it.

Top Gear crew nearly get lynched in Alabama

99ways2die says...

theo47 says..

Smart and tolerant include, vandalizing peoples homes because they want Obama out of office? Teachers attacking students because their not Democratic? People making threats of rape to women and their children because they want to get some one in office who don't tax the shit out of honest small and middle class businesses who really want to get people working again? Oh yeah I guess it is, because you all follow the man who's best friends are the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda. And their idea of tolerance is like all Libtards, If you want it a cerian way you'll tolerate those who also want it and if some one wants some thing else you'll tolerate the rape and murder that happens to them for disagreeing.

I bet you Libtards are real pissed now that our own Military that Obama claims to be his Military are standing up saying they didn't join to work on the side of Al-Qae4da.

You Liberals constantly make claims that are so fucking bogus then you watch a video like this and say how it's all the right but during the whole administration you people have been rioting, murdering, vandalizing, talking way more hate then anyone you have blamed for it, shit now you want to run to the Obamaman because you don't like who's playing Batman, you're idea of tolerance is such bullshit you make the real world want to puke. Fuck a liberal, you're all worthless and as far as I'm concerned and really as far as the Bill of Rights and Constitution is concerned you're all traitorous Communist, Marxist, and socialist garbage. There is nothing to be tolerant about you pieces of shit. Oh and in real life I guess you stupid Nazis never have watched Top Gear because I see you're defending their safety using this episode to blame the right (which by the way The real right finds the people on this video as inbread wastes of life as well, almost as much as they find you) and Top Gear UK is always talking about the Democrats and the Liberals getting in they way of every ones lives, just as you do here as well.

If you're a Liberal fuck you and have a nice day you intolerant communist fucking nut cases.

Top Gear crew nearly get lynched in Alabama

99ways2die says...

Yeah Bush was a piece of shit and a war criminal but during the Oblamer Administration all you heard about was threats of violence and rape to women all over the internet including to Hollywood stars as well as a 15 year old girl being attacked by a teacher for a Romney shirt, and vandalism to and old couples homes and now you libtards have proven you're mostly a bunch of badasses to little 5 year old children. that wanted the Muslim Brotherhood supporter out of office too. So say what you will the Obamanation and the Bushfire both belong in Gitmo and you can all kiss it.

Either way this episode pissed me off, the producers had no right having them do this crap. I saw it just a couple weeks ago and (I know it's an old episode) but I sent a pretty blatant E-Mail about how messed up that was. That crap right there should not have happened, it was not fair to the image of our country nor was it fair to put them out there on basically what was a suicide mission. Jeremy is the one that created Top Gear and got it back on air and I think it's about time they allow him to have more say in how it gets run.

Grimm (Member Profile)

Section 8 Rental - What a sad and upsetting experience

Porksandwich says...

If the neighborhood is that bad, and their house payments are based on 220k versus the value of the home at 20k. I really doubt they'd make enough on rent without Section 8 to break even.

They'd either be losing money due to wear and tear on the home and it needed constant maintenance and work plus not making enough to cover all the fixed costs.

Or stuck with the fixed costs and an empty place they could let sit...that would probably end up getting broken into and vandalized if the neighborhood is that bad.


It's really difficult right now to find responsible renters in "slow recovery" areas.

Dunno if you can with Section 8, but I know I'd make em carry renter's insurance at the very least. So they are on the hook for the damage they do with a nice big corporation who can afford to go after them for the damages.


There's a reason why many of the places for rent out there are ran by huge corporations who just keep getting larger....the small guys can't afford to put up with all the bullshit problems people cause them. The big guys can effectively keep you from having a place to live if you screw up one of their properties bad enough.

Concrete Revenge Literally SHOCKING Revenge

newtboy says...

Please learn the meaning of the word "literally", it does not mean "figuratively".
I also think this is a setup. There were way too many witnesses (and a public video) for it to be a real felony vandalism/destruction of private property unless the guy with the white car and the concrete company both have under an 85 IQ (which may be the case, there are lots of dumb people out there).

Victim Calls Alleged Thief's Mom

FlowersInHisHair says...

Nah. A vandal recently smashed in my mum's door, and she had the option of prosecuting the little bastard or accepting a written apology and money to cover the damages. She went for the apology option and got £60 to "cover" the £400 cost of replacing the door and a three-sentence apology covered in correction fluid because the tossbag who smashed her door in couldn't spell "sorry".

If it ever happens again, the little shit is getting a criminal record.

Kids caught vandalizing on train

notarobot says...

Naw, weather is too pleasant there. Drop him in Kamchatka. He won't find transit trains to vandalise.

Edit: checks link, that's pretty interesting law regarding vandals...

Payback said:

...to Singapore?

Singapore's Vandalism Law

Kids caught vandalizing on train

digitalpimp (Member Profile)

Insurance Scam, Road Rage, Or A$$hole? - (I Can't Decide)

chingalera says...

Flat-out road rage.

Now look dude: Don't use your footage of the guy's plate number to hand this shit over to any authorities, that costs everyone money. Track him down with his plate, arrive uninvited at his home, find his vehicle, and disable or otherwise vandalize it alla, felt-tip-penis-on-forehead-while-drunk-and-passed-out, and teach the cunt a lesson no cop can by citing him.

Yeah, needless to say you don't wanna rage against MY machine....

Years ago....Guy threw dip-spit out his window and it hit my windshield and got all over my arm-Ran his plates, arrived at his home, car in front, he got a gallon of Penetrol rubbed on with gloves like a glaze from bumper-to-bumper. Paint me with spit, you need a new paint job. He may have learned his lesson....Left a cup of dip-juice-looking stuff on top of his car.

Guy Gets Revenge On His Cheating Girlfriend - (NSFW)

aimpoint says...

Vandalism isn't exactly a very good response to what hes calling cheating. Who knows, maybe he just has a jealousy issue and is over reacting. There's a lot that this video isn't showing, but what it is is a guy that broke someone's car window because he was mad. Besides, he seems quite content that the "jobs done" afterwards, or as it was put before, maybe he didn't think it would actually break. I see it as a sign that the guy doesn't know what he is capable of when he gets mad.

CaptainPlanet said:

you're making a lot of strangely unfair assumptions about the nature of a stranger's relationship



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