>> ^volumptuous:

Ubuntu?
Yeah, I'll just do that. Because you know, I don't need things like Adobe CS4/5, Logic Audio, Pro Tools, Ableton Live, Max/MSP, Final Cut, Color, Motion, Lightroom and basically every other piece of software I use for my professional and fun purposes.
After scanning around some Ubuntu forums and finding out just what a nightmare it is to run any of my required software, I called a friend @ JPL, and one at Oracle to ask if my summation was correct, and they said "for what you need, Ubuntu makes zero sense". Yep, there you go campion.
Why are we talking about Ubuntu? Oh right, to show that we don't need sweatshops to live our wetern lifestyles. Which for me, (aside from about 1/2 the tech I own) is absolutely true.
I work from home, my GF takes mass transit. We have a massive garden where we get most of our food from. We buy all other food from locally grown, sustainable sources (mostly south central farmers market). We make all of our own cleaning agents, use soap nuts for washing clothes, recycle all water, harvest rainwater, solar dry food, hardly ever use a heater, have no A/C or central air. We use canvas bags to shop with, compost 100% of all food waste, recycle or reuse all plastic/paper/glass etc. Our combined trash for a full month is 1/2 of a normal small plastic bag.
I DO NOT buy Nike products, have never bought anything from WalMart, don't buy fastfood (aside from the ocassional In-n-Out) and we both study the source where all of our merch is made. In this ugly web of global corporate confusion, it's not always easy to find out where every piece of every camera or MIDI controller or PS3 you buy comes from.
It is very easy to "vote with my wallet" although I am not so naive to think it makes a dent on the big picture. But a lot of people would rather just scream "just buy Ubuntu and the world is saved" that's a load of bullshit.


Ubuntu. If you need it, write it. That's how Linux works.

I used to dislike sweatshops and avoided with open disdain any company that used them. Then I realized I love my goddamn Nikes. Fuck off and sweat, motherfuckers.

Kidding. Though I do think the majority of "sweatshops" in underdeveloped and poor countries give better working wages than laborers in those areas typically receive. To us, $5 a day is impossible to live on, but over there that may be a decent wage when adjusted for their economy.

As for @volumptuous claim that Ubuntu cannot handle the software he uses, he is correct, but only because there isn't a market for it - if people chose Ubuntu all that software would be created for it. But Ubuntu isn't sexy like Mac, and all of volumptuous' low fat soy latte sipping, Prius driving, Sig bottle drinking, iPhone calling, Oliver Peoples glasses wearing, carbon credit buying, The Standard in Downtown going, CNN text alert receiving, CFL bulb using, Obama Biden bumper sticker having friends use Mac because they're the "in" thing here in LA.

>> ^volumptuous:

Ubuntu?


I'm using Ubuntu right now on my spare laptop and I really like it. For general use it's fine but I can't do any real work on it, if I define work as anything that uses MS Office.

Just to go super off-topic, anyone know anything about it? My only problem is that I have to do a recovery boot, and choose the low graphic mode before it will boot. And then it boots just fine with no apparent compromises.

This all happened after I tried to upgrade to 10.4.

I know I could google, and I will, but what are your tips for making your own cleaning products as I'm quite interested in doing that.

In reply to this comment by volumptuous:
Ubuntu?

Yeah, I'll just do that. Because you know, I don't need things like Adobe CS4/5, Logic Audio, Pro Tools, Ableton Live, Max/MSP, Final Cut, Color, Motion, Lightroom and basically every other piece of software I use for my professional and fun purposes.

After scanning around some Ubuntu forums and finding out just what a nightmare it is to run any of my required software, I called a friend @ JPL, and one at Oracle to ask if my summation was correct, and they said "for what you need, Ubuntu makes zero sense". Yep, there you go campion.

Why are we talking about Ubuntu? Oh right, to show that we don't need sweatshops to live our wetern lifestyles. Which for me, (aside from about 1/2 the tech I own) is absolutely true.

I work from home, my GF takes mass transit. We have a massive garden where we get most of our food from. We buy all other food from locally grown, sustainable sources (mostly south central farmers market). We make all of our own cleaning agents, use soap nuts for washing clothes, recycle all water, harvest rainwater, solar dry food, hardly ever use a heater, have no A/C or central air. We use canvas bags to shop with, compost 100% of all food waste, recycle or reuse all plastic/paper/glass etc. Our combined trash for a full month is 1/2 of a normal small plastic bag.

I DO NOT buy Nike products, have never bought anything from WalMart, don't buy fastfood (aside from the ocassional In-n-Out) and we both study the source where all of our merch is made. In this ugly web of global corporate confusion, it's not always easy to find out where every piece of every camera or MIDI controller or PS3 you buy comes from.

It is very easy to "vote with my wallet" although I am not so naive to think it makes a dent on the big picture. But a lot of people would rather just scream "just buy Ubuntu and the world is saved" that's a load of bullshit.

Ubuntu?

Yeah, I'll just do that. Because you know, I don't need things like Adobe CS4/5, Logic Audio, Pro Tools, Ableton Live, Max/MSP, Final Cut, Color, Motion, Lightroom and basically every other piece of software I use for my professional and fun purposes.

After scanning around some Ubuntu forums and finding out just what a nightmare it is to run any of my required software, I called a friend @ JPL, and one at Oracle to ask if my summation was correct, and they said "for what you need, Ubuntu makes zero sense". Yep, there you go campion.

Why are we talking about Ubuntu? Oh right, to show that we don't need sweatshops to live our wetern lifestyles. Which for me, (aside from about 1/2 the tech I own) is absolutely true.

I work from home, my GF takes mass transit. We have a massive garden where we get most of our food from. We buy all other food from locally grown, sustainable sources (mostly south central farmers market). We make all of our own cleaning agents, use soap nuts for washing clothes, recycle all water, harvest rainwater, solar dry food, hardly ever use a heater, have no A/C or central air. We use canvas bags to shop with, compost 100% of all food waste, recycle or reuse all plastic/paper/glass etc. Our combined trash for a full month is 1/2 of a normal small plastic bag.

I DO NOT buy Nike products, have never bought anything from WalMart, don't buy fastfood (aside from the ocassional In-n-Out) and we both study the source where all of our merch is made. In this ugly web of global corporate confusion, it's not always easy to find out where every piece of every camera or MIDI controller or PS3 you buy comes from.

It is very easy to "vote with my wallet" although I am not so naive to think it makes a dent on the big picture. But a lot of people would rather just scream "just buy Ubuntu and the world is saved" that's a load of bullshit.

>> ^campionidelmondo:

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
Foxconn makes products for both Apple and Microsoft, so people who want to vote against Foxconn with their wallets don't get to use computers or the internet.
Wow. Ok first of all Foxconn manufactures hardware, so you'd still be ok to use Windows if you so choose. You wouldn't have to, since Ubuntu is a great alternative and as its userbase grows so will its usability. Damn, you can even install OSX on a non-Apple PC if that's worth the trouble for you. Let's start with your private use and not get into how you're forced to use certain things to earn a living just yet.
Second, you talk about food and medicine and how you could buy neither. There are always viable alternatives for these fundamental needs, but why not start small? If you want to boycott Foxconn you can't have any of the current generation gaming consoles. No Wii, PS3 or X360. If you own them already make a point by throwing them out. If you're willing to take that step, we can further discuss the more elemental human needs such as medicine and food, but my bet is that it's not gonna happen, because your attachment to some plastic piece of entartainment far outweights your bullshit rage at Foxconn that you spew. You're probably too confortable with the level of wealth and consumerism you live in, which is the real reason why "vote with your wallet" won't work.


To each his own. Good luck with your ineffective political ideology.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Foxconn makes products for both Apple and Microsoft, so people who want to vote against Foxconn with their wallets don't get to use computers or the internet.

Wow. Ok first of all Foxconn manufactures hardware, so you'd still be ok to use Windows if you so choose. You wouldn't have to, since Ubuntu is a great alternative and as its userbase grows so will its usability. Damn, you can even install OSX on a non-Apple PC if that's worth the trouble for you. Let's start with your private use and not get into how you're forced to use certain things to earn a living just yet.

Second, you talk about food and medicine and how you could buy neither. There are always viable alternatives for these fundamental needs, but why not start small? If you want to boycott Foxconn you can't have any of the current generation gaming consoles. No Wii, PS3 or X360. If you own them already make a point by throwing them out. If you're willing to take that step, we can further discuss the more elemental human needs such as medicine and food, but my bet is that it's not gonna happen, because your attachment to some plastic piece of entartainment far outweights your bullshit rage at Foxconn that you spew. You're probably too confortable with the level of wealth and consumerism you live in, which is the real reason why "vote with your wallet" won't work.

I sometimes use my windows to view the sift. Other days I use my Ubuntu machine. What does that make me? A hybrid?

4 Million Unique visitors? If so that's excellent; aside from them being PCs.

>> ^NordlichReiter:

Apple, Microsoft, bah.
--Posted from Ubuntu.


I've got Ubuntu on my spare Thinkpad and it feels rock-solid. Wish it was slicker to look at but it's good. And finally works wirelessly without any coaxing.

Apple, Microsoft, bah.

--Posted from Ubuntu.

>> ^gwiz665:

Oh Mac OSX, you're my favorite linux based operating system...


Uh, it's based on BSD (UNIX).

In reply to this comment by xxovercastxx:
To be fair, this was from the Mac OS 8 days. Things were pretty ugly in Macland back then. I think I would have actually gladly taken a WinME machine over a Mac with OS 8.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
Uninstall that crap, and install Ubuntu or Linux. Pick your distro.
I use a Ubuntu Kernel.


By chance, are you a writer for CSI?

LoL, nice. :-D

>> ^bmacs27:
I'm operating system independent. Windows, however, is inferior to any operating system with a unix core. I don't care if it's HPUX, Ubuntu, or a modern Mac, it's got the Redmond boys topped.
Hopefully an anti mac bias hasn't impacted any investing decisions you may or may not have made. In other words... SCOREBOARD.


HPUX is superior to a modern Windows OS eh? That's quite a stretch. If you need to run cron jobs and shell scripts sure. Anything else and that statement is the same sort of generalization that makes me dislike most Mac users. (read: MOST and USERS, not ALL and OS)

I'm operating system independent. Windows, however, is inferior to any operating system with a unix core. I don't care if it's HPUX, Ubuntu, or a modern Mac, it's got the Redmond boys topped.

Hopefully an anti mac bias hasn't impacted any investing decisions you may or may not have made. In other words... SCOREBOARD.

To be fair, this was from the Mac OS 8 days. Things were pretty ugly in Macland back then. I think I would have actually gladly taken a WinME machine over a Mac with OS 8.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
Uninstall that crap, and install Ubuntu or Linux. Pick your distro.
I use a Ubuntu Kernel.


By chance, are you a writer for CSI?