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Supreme Court ruling on Donald Trump immunity

newtboy says...

From his Supreme Court hearing-
“No one is above the law, that’s a foundational principal I’ve talked about coming from Federalist 69, coming from the structure of the constitution. We are all equal under the law in the United States Of America.
The foundation of our constitution was, as Hamilton explained in Federalist 69, “the Presidency would not be a monarchy” and it specified all the ways under the constitution the president is not above the law, no one is above the law in the United States of America.”
“The president is subject to the law, no one is above the law in the United States of America including the president of the United States and that’s something that is made clear in Federalist 69.
Even in a national security context where the constitution gives the commander in chief power to the president, the president remains subject to the law. The president is not above the law with respect to the criminal process.”
“No one is above the law in our constitutional system. Federalist 69, Hamilton, makes clear all the ways that the executive branch as designed by the framers of the constitution was different from the monarchy.” - Kavenaugh

Now that he’s hearing the case- “The president is not subject to the law, and is not only above the law both criminal and civil when performing official duties, but any actions claimed to have been performed as official duties may not be used as evidence or even investigated, even in cases where they broke the law unofficially outside any possible official duty, no matter how exculpatory or illegal those official actions were (like murdering a witness (Epstein)), and if the president so chooses they may convert to a monarchy at their whim, so long as they claim it’s official.”

This is a complete 180 from what he said at his confirmation, just like Barrett claiming at her confirmation Supreme Court precedent was settled law not to be revisited then revisiting and reversing dozens of decades old precedents.

SCOTUS is invalid so long as those on it believe they are above the law and allowed to sell judgements to the highest bidder, something every single right wing justice but no Left wing justice has been PROVEN to have done, some to the tune of tens of millions….and lied on sworn statements about it for decades too.

bobknight33 said:

SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.

From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Where were we?…..
226 Kennesaw Mayor, former councilman Leonard Church (all households required to own a gun) child molestation

227 GOP WA state Sen Joe Fain - accused of rape, accuser inspired by Christine Blasey Ford

228 Federal judge Brett Kavanaugh and Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has been credibly accused of sexual assault

229 George H.W. Bush - several groping allegations (though my sister worked in nursing homes & said they used to note DOM (Dirty Old Man) on charts because it was so common for aged men to lose their social control

230 AL GOP Gov. Robert Bentley - sexual harassment

231 Pensacola’s GOP Sheriff Al Harrison convicted of forcing women prisoners to have sex with him.

232 SC celebrity politician Thomas Ravenal, former Republican State Treasurer, sexual assault, assault and battery

233 Colorado Republican House minority leader Mike May’s company sued for sexual discrimination/harassment

234 Republican Sheriff L. PAUL BAILEY of Berrien Co, Michigan oversaw a prison where several inmates were raped and abused.

235 Reagan appointee U.S. District Judge Walter S. Smith Jr. sexual harassment and misconduct

236 SD GOP state Rep. Mathew Wollman resigned after sleeping with interns Plural!

237 Republican NY state Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin - sexual harassment

238 NY Assemblyman Greg Ball - R - sexual harassment and assault several times in NY & TX

239 NY Assemblyman Republican Angela Wozniak sexual harassment, retaliation after staff member breaks off affair

240 Former state representative and gubernatorial candidate Steve Nunn ignored the restraining order had against him for domestic violence and murdered her.

241 GOP Kent County Commissioner Gary Rolls gets ONE YEAR for raping a young woman since she was 9 until she was 23.

242 Will Folks, spokesperson for Republican Gov. Mark Sanford (Appalachian Trail) convicted for domestic violence.

243 MN GOP state house candidate Brad Gerten - domestic assault

244 GOP Congressional candidate David "Bull" Gurfein domestic violence

245 University of Massachusetts Republican Club vice president -Bradley S. DeFlumeri domestic violence, violating restraining orders. https://dailycollegian.com/2009/04/republican-club-vice-president-arrested-banned-from-offices/

246 Carl’s, Jr CEO and big Trump supporter Andrew Puzder lost the opportunity to be Labor Secretary because of domestic violence history, but Trump still wants him in the administraiton

247 Albuquerque Republican Rep. Rory Ogle - domestic violence and assault withdrew from reelection campaign

248 William "Wild Bill" Janklowm Republican governor of SD - two rapes, one as a minor, the other, he took advantage of reservation inability to prosecute whites who commit crimes on reservation.

249 Republican Congressman Dan Burton - sexual harassment and groping

250 Dick Armey, GOP Congressman from Texas - sexual harassment, inappropriate conduct with college students

Supreme Court ruling on Donald Trump immunity

newtboy says...

Lied to? How so….be specific.

😂 Reiterate the oblivious 😂….um…yes. The oblivious felon did make this claim first, the oblivious “justices” did reiterate.

So why is Trump celebrating like he just got a get out of jail free card?


This is not how it’s always been, before this ruling official acts still had to be lawful…not anymore. As long as they’re official acts, they are legal (as far as penalties are concerned) no matter what the law says. That’s what they ruled.
Edit: They did not give the disgraced ex president his claimed total immunity however…if the courts decide fomenting a coup was not an official presidential act, or falsifying documents for fake electors is not an official president’s act, or secretly pressuring a governor to “find” 11000+ votes is not an official presidential act, or taking and withholding classified state secrets and lying about having them to the FBI and actively hiding them from warranted searches after he was no longer president are not official presidential acts, then he still has some serious legal trouble to add to whatever happens next week at his sentencing.

As long as the President is using official powers, what he uses them for cannot be questioned. Biden could assassinate Trump like he claims Biden tried to do 100% legally now, and Thomas, and Alito, and the other corrupt “justices” that invalidated a long cherished institution for money, and anyone he thinks threatens America…100% immune because protecting the nation is a Presidential duty.
Fortunately Trump tried to hide most of his crimes by using unofficial orders to non governmental agents through unofficial channels, so he’s got an uphill climb to argue they are official acts.
The issues listed in the dissent are not extreme or hypothetical, they are in fact campaign promises by the convicted felon and terrorist leader and specific examples argued by the Trump lawyers as things that are (now) legal…like assassination of a political rival.
The court just couldn’t help but try to minimize its extremist ruling that upends 248 years of the rule of law and puts the president above the law when using presidential powers (like assassinations, or cancelling elections, jailing political rivals, disbanding the border patrol, etc.) by calling threats made by those who have followed through on those exact same threats before “fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals"
The president refusing to accept the election results and trying to seize or hold onto power illegally was one example…not extreme or hypothetical or fear mongering, it fucking happened, and this ruling means it may be legal (if considered official).

Biden damn well better make use of this immunity to save democracy or maybe he deserves to lose, he now has carte Blanche to pull anything, absolutely anything as long as he says it’s for America, everything is allowed, nothing is forbidden. I’m worried he has morals and won’t use these new unlimited assassination and coup powers…very worried. I know for an absolute certainty that the other guy doesn’t.

bobknight33 said:

@newtboy

Again you have been lied to by the fake news and Democrat party.

Sadly this had to go to the Supreme court just to reiterate the oblivious. When will you learn -- you are always being lied to about Trump.



SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.
From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

Um…Biden wasn’t in the 2016 debate. Derp. I see, your mental state also is in direct line with the felon, just like your morals. Reminder…in 2016 Trump debated Clinton. Another reminder, Trump was president in 2020, but he blamed most of it’s disasters on Biden last night. Huh?

The laptop was real, its contents were unverifiable at best, total fabrications planted by Giuliani and his cohorts at worst. Maybe handing it to the Russian intelligence community before turning it over to the FBI was dumb? Maybe taking possession at all was dumb? I ask you, would you ever accept evidence of Trump crimes that had gone through Biden’s hands, been sent to Ukraine and tampered with, exposed in the media, and only then turned over to authorities?
I’ll answer for you…no you wouldn’t…proven because you don’t even accept evidence directly collected by the authorities with video.

The laptop again. Like Barron’s birth certificate that shows Ivanka as mother?

bobknight33 said:

The Laptop was real the the 50 intelligence officials who signed off as Russian hoax was a hoax on the American people to help Joe win. This hoax was for Joe to have a talking point to refute for the 2016 debate.

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newtboy says...

And another one…
Former North Dakota Sen. Ray Holmberg has signed an agreement indicating he will plead guilty to a child sex tourism charge.
It sounds like he repeatedly went to Prague on state funded trips with the intent to have sex with young (pre pubescent) children.
He was caught when he was corresponding with another convicted child predator trying to procure child porn.
He got a sweetheart deal to plead guilty to just the one charge and only get 3 years in prison despite the charges calling for 30. More two tiered justice with the Republican millionaire getting the kid glove treatment.

Again, ANOTHER TOP REPUBLICAN has ADMITTED to being an ACTIVE CHILD RAPIST.
How many high level Democrats have been convicted of child rape this century? Why have SO MANY top level Republicans plead guilty to child rape this century?

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

lol. You claim CNN states Biden lost but post a clip from the NYPost of him “hitting back” on his 36 felony convictions (and 50+ more charges) by pointing to Hunter’s 3. WHAT!? Does he know who the candidate is? 😂
Biden lost the fight for live fact checking, but that’s all he lost. Trump was his normal lying and ranting self. Tomorrow’s fact checking will show 90% of his statements were lies, but that doesn’t matter to you, we know, because you share his (total lack of) morals.
The choice is thriving democracy or crumbling despotic monarchy, and that’s no choice.
Biden wasn’t my choice for 2020, he wouldn’t be my first choice in 2024, but given the choice between him and a convicted felon whose second term will be a vitriolic and violent attack against half of America and may never end, I and tens of millions more would vote for Biden if he was drooling in his oatmeal incapable of speaking, and I’m certain it would be better for the country.

So sad…just grasping at nothing in desperation. It’s ok…we all know who you’re voting for, and we all know better.

bobknight33 said:

CNN states Biden lost the debate. Even they turned on Joe.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

The economic numbers are so amazing that the world bank recently said the American booming economy is almost single handedly stabilizing the entire world economy.

Your dream of a failing economy like your convicted felon and rapist candidate and disgraced ex president has failed, the economy has never been better. The market continues to hit record highs, unemployment remains at record lows, inflation is at zero for months, wages are still rising fast. You can’t lie fast or convincing enough to contradict the reality that the Biden economy is the envy of the world.

BTW- the deficit under Biden has been half what it was under the felon…$4.3 T vs $9 T…with $2.2 T being infrastructure investments in America. $2 T in deficit reduction under Biden vs $440 billion.

Many Americans have not yet recovered from 2020 when your guy drove us off a cliff, crashed the market, destroyed jobs, completely erased the economy to a negative gdp, ignored long term supply chain failures, and oversaw the biggest jump in crime rates in my lifetime, etc.

Suck it!

Surprising, but fun! Your team lost in the Supreme Court…red states cannot sue the federal government when the fed asks social media companies to police dangerous lies. Red state governors had sued the Biden administration because Twitter downgraded their disinformation campaigns, fighting all the way to the top to protect their right to lie to you without contradiction, correction, or comeuppance. They lost. Not good news for your guys campaigns that rely on misinformation to mislead voters into voting for them.

Suck it again. 😂

Sadly the maga court just legalized bribery so long as the payment comes AFTER the corrupt act. No surprise, two of the six were guilty of bribery under the near 40 year old anti corruption law they struck down. America can suck it again, says maga.
The same corrupt court accidentally released their decision about emergency abortions in Idaho. Alito again? The corruption and incompetence increase daily.

bobknight33 said:

If The economic numbers are all amazing, then why are so many Americans BROKE?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Uh oh….leaked transcripts of the felon’s lawyer’s notes show he knew for certain having the stolen classified documents was a crime and repeatedly tried to get his layer to go along with lying to the DOJ and saying repeatedly “wouldn’t it be better if there are no documents” “shouldn’t we just say there are no documents” “wouldn’t turning over the documents open me up to prosecution or more searches”.
Blows up his “I didn’t know stealing classified state secrets and keeping them in rooms open to the public and lying to theDOJ and FBI about it was wrong” defense…not that that would be a defense in any unbiased court…but he’s got Cannon so it’s a tossup.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Uh-oh….Gaetz witnesses confirm multiple instances of Gaetz paying women for sex and to attend drug fueled sex parties….minors….they brought receipts of the Venmo payments. Remember Cawthorn, your own representative who said his fellow officials were inviting him to sex and drug orgies…these are those parties.

He tried to explain the payments as “generosity towards ex girlfriends” but she was STILL UNDER AGE THEN…so how long before making the payment to a 17 year old for sex (and he also paid for her to cross state lines for sex, so that’s felony sex trafficking like his best friend was convicted of in the same case) was he having sex with her as his girlfriend? Since she was 12? WTF!?!

This the day after the Rapist Felon’s spiritual advisor quit after admitting a long term sexual abuse of a 12 year old.

Typical MAGA. Public pedophilia and long time best friends and “partners in crime” with convicted pedophile rapists and simply denials are enough for your ilk….as long as he kisses the Rapist Felon’s cock properly.
Speaking of which, did you get your $1000 desecrated flag pin? Supplies are limited (limited to exactly the number of suckers with $1k willing to desecrate an American flag to prove their hatriotism).

Wow. Those who short sold Trump Social made a mint.

WOW! The RNC is now on record saying McCarthy was right and we should return to full blown fascist McCarthyism.

The hits just don’t stop coming, Lansing police arrested Michigan MAGA Representative Neil Friske (R-107th Dist.) for the sexual assault of an exotic dancer then chasing her down the street shooting at her when she fled. More MAGA family values.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Lol. Charlie “white boy summer” Kirk is whining because he was called out for his constant racism so he posted a photo of himself with his 10 “black friends”, every one of which is an employee on his payroll spreading his message, not a friend.
Nice try, racists. You can always rent a few uncle Toms or uncle Ruckus to hide your racism, it only makes you MORE racist. 😂

Oof…Trump media is going below $25 today, probably $20 tomorrow. Teens next week, single digits after the debate. Penny stock by the time Little Donny can sell…he’s still gonna make Thousands!

The RNC has stupidly gone full purge mode, attacking even maga conservative Republicans if they don’t back convicted felon Trump 100% 100% of the time. MTG tweeted to her voters that anyone even thinking about maybe replacing the convicted felon as their candidate should get out of the Republican Party and vote for democrats and they will be “replaced” with new voters (not sure from where…Venezuela, Cuba, or North Korea?). Any iota of independent thought is enough to be purged, have funding cut, and have the RNC leadership publicly state no one should vote for them. Disgraced ex potus said any businessman who doesn’t back him 100% should be fired (and intends to make that law). Hilarious because you fools don’t have a vote to spare and this idiotic ploy is party suicide. Because I know you don’t know what the word means allow me to educate you… this is fascism.

Another Trump endorsed maggot insurrectionist lost another primary in Georgia.
Even extreme right polls are now showing President Biden well ahead. The good economy is finally being recognized and the criminality can no longer be ignored. Biden has gained nearly 10% in the weeks since the felon’s conviction…he’s going to gain more after the debate when the felon implodes, gibbers incoherently, and poops himself on stage.
Enjoy your white boy summer.

One more week…will he show up and embarrass himself or will he stay home and embarrass himself? I’m curious what these “debate performance enhancing drugs” are your ilk accuses Biden of using that make an Alzheimer’s patient suddenly rational and sharp, and is Don willing to take a test for those drugs before going on stage himself, because he REALLY needs them?
Also, can we get a truckload sent to every nursing home, because if there’s a drug that erases Alzheimer’s and/or dementia they will want to know. (Since it will go over your head, I’m joking, there is no such drug).

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Sucker!
Proof at 1:15


Another fake, just like the fake of President Biden pausing mid sit where the audio was altered so you don’t hear he was listening to an announcement to see if he should remain standing…or the Normandy fake where the paratrooper was removed from the clip to make it appear he wanders alone into a field because he’s lost, not talking to a paratrooper who just landed.

You have to produce these fake videos because the real President Biden is in good shape mentally and physically unlike the diapered felon who meth rages every morning at 3am and needs his team to spend every day doing damage control over his tantrums, lies, and ridiculous accusations that are always admissions (he has no imagination so when he wants to make a claim about someone he just thinks of something he’s been attacked for or that he knows is wrong and accuses them).

Democrats don’t have to fake videos or make up lies about the Felon, his actions are disgusting and illegal enough, actually so bad many won’t believe he could really be so disgusting, such a long term public pedophile, such a business fraud, so incredibly unreligious, so outrageously anti democratic, and ALWAYS SO HIGHLY ILLEGAL.

This felon and rapist is you guy, this you pick…he is the absolute best maga has, and he will soon be a prisoner. Note, this means you see yourself as worse than a felonious rapist, business fraud, charity fraud, constant liar, and public pedophile because you obviously see him as your better.

If you were a real man with any honor, you would kill your self for being such a worthless tool spreading these anti American lies, but you are an infant that doesn’t understand the concept of honor or truth so you think nothing of it.

PS- Convicted felon Bannon is being sent to Danberry…not a club Fed prison! This is because he has other cases. Who else has other cases but is about to be sentenced to Rykers Island? 😂

PPS- Gaetz is now under investigation for sex with minors and child sex trafficking, drug use (and transportation across state lines so drug trafficking), abusing his authority to dispense political favors to friends, and obstruction of official investigations (including this one). I guess that means he’s ineligible to run for office just like Hillary was, right? 😂

Bonus- Trump Media is in total freefall, dropping another $5 to hit $30 this morning and still plunging. I think it burned through all its cash reserves and may fold soon, bringing it to $0. Congratulations, another total failure. Maybe he can get another savior loan from another Russian oligarch through the Dominican Republic like last time…oh wait, Russia has no money thanks to strong Biden sanctions that have completely decimated their economy…sorry Charlie!
His properties values are also plunging because his name is toxic, so much his bond may become invalid again!

bobknight33 said:

Do you really think the Dem party wont replace Biden?



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newtboy says...

I’m certain they won’t replace Biden barring unforeseen circumstances.

He’s not a felon and isn’t facing over 50 more felony charges for crimes against America, our allies, and democracy itself. He didn’t lose jobs or lead us to a negative gdp. He doesn’t have multiple mistresses or a wife that won’t be seen with him. He isn’t slipping into full blown dementia and doesn’t wear diapers. He isn’t an adjudicated rapist with is it 36 credible accusers including 13 year old girls. He didn’t take billions from hostile foreign governments in exchange for state secrets. He isn’t dropping in support like a stone.

This long ago debunked fake is the best argument you have against a highly successful president. Democrats don’t have to make fakes.

Why would they replace him?

bobknight33 said:

Do you really think the Dem party wont replace Biden?



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