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101 Great Movie Villains

Yogi says...

>> ^ChaosEngine:

Hang on... just a minute there! Tyler Durden was a villain?
And Roy Batty?
And Vincent and Jules? Ok, they weren't good guys, but they certainly weren't the villains.
Also, if we have to have a villainous Disney cartoon cat, I see your Scar and raise you Shere Khan.


I think Tyler became a villain, it's sort of the best villain because it's where internal conflicts beat on eachother for a time and then one wins out. Very interesting to think of that movie in terms of them actually being two people instead of what it ended up being. Imagine Tyler was his friend that slowly went insane and controlling until you had to eventually push the big red button and stop the madness.

Although I have to say me personally, I was all for Tyler. His last stand was certainly not hurting anyone and it was a great idea, which is why I suppose it wasn't a thing when it happened to go down anyways, it was a fitting climax. Jack though was reacting because the situation had gotten out of control and he could predict where it would lead. He didn't trust Tyler, or himself really. Pretty cool.

101 Great Movie Villains

ChaosEngine says...

Hang on... just a minute there! Tyler Durden was a villain?

And Roy Batty?

And Vincent and Jules? Ok, they weren't good guys, but they certainly weren't the villains.

Also, if we have to have a villainous Disney cartoon cat, I see your Scar and raise you Shere Khan.

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First Person View Of A Lion Encounter

A10anis says...

>> ^MilkmanDan:

>> ^A10anis:
I have absolutely no time for these idiots. And it matters not how many years experience they have. It is a wild beast, UN-trainable, Treating a Lion, Tiger, Bear etc. as if you could possibly anticipate its reactions is a recipe for disaster, ask Zeigfried and Roy.

I am tempted to mostly agree with you, but to play devil's advocate:
You might say the same thing about a car. You might be an excellent driver: years of experience, can easily and calmly avoid an accident in virtually all scenarios, never drive distracted or without an appropriate amount of focus, etc. In spite of that, once in a while your car may have some problem at exactly the wrong moment -- maybe you blow a tire just before some ice on a curve, or while trying to merge in front of a semi or something. Or maybe some drunk and/or lunatic does something that even perfect defensive driving can't prepare you for.
Driving a car can put you into situations that are impossible to anticipate on control -- recipes for disaster. Yet many of us still get behind the wheel every day. We accept that there is a small (although probably greater than we readily admit) chance of disaster, and figure that the convenience and functionality of driving/riding in a vehicle is worth the risk.
For some people, working with these animals must seem a bit like that. Steve Irwin worked with very dangerous animals all the time. He took risks that seemed like insanity to those of us that don't have the same motivations and drive that he did. And he got burned in a billion-to-one freak accident with an animal that is far less dangerous than many he worked with. My guess is that although he died as a result, if you asked his ghost what he thought about that he would likely reply "no regrets".

I'm afraid I cannot see any correlation between driving a car, and climbing into a cage with a lion! A car is an inanimate object. It is not susceptible to whims, or moods, and has not existed for millennia with the sole purpose of tearing living animals apart to feed it's family. Of course they both have risks - putting on your socks has risks. But there are rational risks, and bloody stupid risks. Your example, which compares one as equatable to the other is, frankly, a non-sequitur. As for
Steve Irwin; His death, as any, was tragic. But here was an "expert" who, despite his knowledge, died at the hands of a wild animal. I think that proves my point, there are NO experts.

First Person View Of A Lion Encounter

MilkmanDan says...

>> ^A10anis:

I have absolutely no time for these idiots. And it matters not how many years experience they have. It is a wild beast, UN-trainable, Treating a Lion, Tiger, Bear etc. as if you could possibly anticipate its reactions is a recipe for disaster, ask Zeigfried and Roy.


I am tempted to mostly agree with you, but to play devil's advocate:

You might say the same thing about a car. You might be an excellent driver: years of experience, can easily and calmly avoid an accident in virtually all scenarios, never drive distracted or without an appropriate amount of focus, etc. In spite of that, once in a while your car may have some problem at exactly the wrong moment -- maybe you blow a tire just before some ice on a curve, or while trying to merge in front of a semi or something. Or maybe some drunk and/or lunatic does something that even perfect defensive driving can't prepare you for.

Driving a car can put you into situations that are impossible to anticipate on control -- recipes for disaster. Yet many of us still get behind the wheel every day. We accept that there is a small (although probably greater than we readily admit) chance of disaster, and figure that the convenience and functionality of driving/riding in a vehicle is worth the risk.

For some people, working with these animals must seem a bit like that. Steve Irwin worked with very dangerous animals all the time. He took risks that seemed like insanity to those of us that don't have the same motivations and drive that he did. And he got burned in a billion-to-one freak accident with an animal that is far less dangerous than many he worked with. My guess is that although he died as a result, if you asked his ghost what he thought about that he would likely reply "no regrets".

First Person View Of A Lion Encounter

A10anis says...

I have absolutely no time for these idiots. And it matters not how many years experience they have. It is a wild beast, UN-trainable, Treating a Lion, Tiger, Bear etc. as if you could possibly anticipate its reactions is a recipe for disaster, ask Zeigfried and Roy.

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