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Airsoft Sniper

Chairman_woo says...

I've played airsoft like this for a few years now off an on so feel well enough qualified to comment.

It's largely a matter of range. Most sites allow up to 500fps on snipers (and some american ones go up to 800 or so I believe), but they have a minimum engagement range (usually about 25 meters, presumably more for the silly american ones).

Basically, non automatic sniper rifles are allowed to be significantly more powerful than the 330fps (400 in some countries) other weapons are limited to, but as a result can't be used at short range (that's what pistols and compact SMG's are for!).

If you are close to the minimum range limit and it hits unprotected skin, they sting really badly, enough to draw a little blood sometimes. It's not entirely dissimilar to being whipped by a wet towel, excruciating for about half a second then it tails off to just stinging and swearing.

If it hits your vest, glasses, hat etc. then it wont really hurt at all (but you still felt it you cheating bastards! ), likewise if you are out beyond 50meters or so as the power drops off with range as you'd expect. (My brother can sometimes make shots out to 70-80meters with a VSR but you can barely feel it)

Shoot at point blank and your target can be forgiven for walking over and punching you in the face....right after they stop swearing and get up off the ground. (entirely possible to penetrate exposed skin at that range)

In practice though, trying to storm a building/room vs automatic rifles etc. tends to be far more painful an experience than being sniped. Unless that is someone snipes the inside of your nose sideways on (it hurt as much as you imagine it did).

We also once had a guy knocked clean out by a grenade launcher to the face at point blank . But it was a Co2 powered thing and I believe they aren't allowed inside buildings any more (can't think why).

Re: paintballs, in my much more limited experience, they are waaaaay worse than BB's if they are full power and reasonably close range. Concussions, broken bones and broken skin are all entirely possible (though not likely), but bruises and welts are basically standard issue.

I believe some sites run compressed air guns (rather than Co2) at much lower power levels, so I imagine they are a lot more tolerable.
Paintballers tend to be more on the extreme sports side of things (wheras airsoft tends to be more biased towards military geeks/gamers), and so many sites have a bit of a "pain is weakness leaving the body" attitude to power levels.

In the UK at least the velocity limit for paintballs at competition level is 300fps, for most airsoft sites the limit is 330fps. You only have to look at a BB vs a paintball to see what a discrepancy in energy that equates to!!!

RFlagg said:

I'd have to think being shot by an airsoft would hurt far worse than a paint ball gun... but heck, in this video http://videosift.com/video/Funny-Airsoft-Hostage there's a kid playing, and some of these people get hit what looks like in the head by the sniper.

World's Dumbest Cop

gorillaman says...

The cop's job is to catch people speeding and give them tickets. Seems to be exactly what he did.

The corruptibility of those in public office would be substantially reduced if the general expectation were that they would openly enjoy any extra-organisational perquisites available to them while continuing to perform their office in an objective fashion.

What's more, from a utilitarian perspective the value of the service provided to that cop probably dramatically exceeds the cost to the public purse of a few minutes of his salaried time lost. As an overall result, society has made a profit on the transaction. If anything, therefore, it would have been irresponsible of him to decline the opportunity to, shall we say, mouth-holster his pink pork pistol.

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Today on C.G.W.-Cop Goes Into GTA Mode And Runs Down Suspect

newtboy says...

As long as my 15 friends with rifles, shotguns, and pistols pointed at your head come with me, and the instant you start to point the rifle at a person they get to fire, then fine, name the date and place, I'll be there with bells on to get to taser you and 'detain' you afterwards. This guy only pointed his weapon at himself, and only fired a single shot directly up....like a warning shot...a thing cops have apparently forgotten exists.
If you need 100% guarantee of safety in your duty, you should NEVER be a cop, or even be in public.
It's funny you always take that position that cops should be able to kill with impunity instead of taking the slightest risk to their own safety, for instance you often say they should never even try tasers even with massive backup because tasers MIGHT not stop the person, so they should just shoot to kill instead if there's ANY risk to themselves (or if they think they can make up a risk...'he grabbed my taser' comes to mind), and you also take the position that cops have this incredibly dangerous job and are all 'brave little soldiers' we should look up to...which is it?

lantern53 said:

How about I arm myself with a rifle, then you come at me with a taser?

Unimpressed (guy in the middle)

eric3579 says...

As this is a nightclub im guessing it's part of the lighting. A bit of bright flashy lighting in below video.

Per YouTube description and fapnews.ru (in Russian): Last Sunday 35 masked people entered a nightclub in the city of Vichuga and attacked a table of five people. They were armed with AK-47s, pistols, and cudgels, but mostly just used their fists.
Police were called and managed to catch two of the perpetrators as they fled. However, they turned out to be OMON special forces with ID, and were let go. There is an ongoing investigation. Four people were treated for light bodily injuries. -from reddit

Another angle

littledragon_79 said:

Lots of camera flashes...is this a commercial for something?

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Monty Python Asteroids

Grimm says...

Who could name it "Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-Biscuitbarrel".

That would at least be easier to remember than "Malcolm Peter Brian Telescope Adrian Umbrella Stand Jasper Wednesday (pops mouth twice) Stoatgobbler John Raw Vegetable (whinnying) Arthur Norman Michael (blows squeaker) Featherstone Smith (whistle) Northcott Edwards Harris (fires pistol, then 'whoop') Mason (chuff-chuff-chuff-chuff) Frampton Jones Fruitbat Gilbert (sings) 'We'll keep a welcome in the' (three shots) Williams If I Could Walk That Way Jenkin (squeaker) Tiger-drawers Pratt Thompson (sings) 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head' Darcy Carter (horn) Pussycat (sings) 'Don't Sleep In The Subway' Barton Mainwaring (hoot, 'whoop') Smith"

TSA: please verify that your used cane is not a sword

my15minutes says...

next in the series:
please verify that your watch doesn't conceal a garrote in the bezel

please verify that your gold lighter, cigarette case, and pen don't reassemble to become a pistol

please verify that your lotus esprit turbo doesn't transform into a submarine

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Cellphone Video Show Officers Shoot and Kill Suspect

ChaosEngine says...

@dannym3141 a gun is simply the wrong tool. Hollywood has taught us that police are all expert pistol shots who can target a body part with ease. From what I've read and from talking to a cop friend of mine, the reality is that you don't shoot what you don't intend to kill.

A taser would have been more appropriate here.

@artician, I think that's incredibly unfair. I'm not saying what the cops did was right, but I highly doubt they were thinking "fuck yeah, got to kill me a dude today".

Law Student Prevails Over State Robot Thug

ChaosEngine says...

Meh, I'm just glad I live in a sane country.

A country where you can have a gun if you want, within reasonable limits and provided you're not a criminal or a lunatic. Where you can go hunting or target shooting, but no-one in their right mind thinks you need your little pistol or hell, even assault rifle to overthrow the government, because we have fucking elections.

And fuck yes, if I saw some nutjob walking around my neighbourhood with a pistol, I'd call the cops. Luckily, no-one in my neighbourhood would be such a fucking inconsiderate asshole.

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Mountain Biker Robbed

chilaxe says...

The assailant had to run pretty far before he was in pistol range.

If the biker had been more wary, like concealed carry folks are, he'd have rode off in the opposite direction immediately.

grinter said:

Good thing the biker didn't have a gun; someone could have been killed, or at the very least, the robbers would have another weapon.

Colbert Shows Just How Backward Florida Gun Laws Are

harlequinn says...

Interestingly, in this video at least, he was firing a .22lr Ruger MkII, about as low powered a pistol as you can get. .22lr has a hard time going through inch thick plywood (when fired from a pistol). This is different than the alleged .357 magnum, .38 special, and .380 ACP the random lady was calling out.

The gun range guy is incorrect. Some people always get on target with static shooting. Those destroyed walls in his range will (in my experience) be from beginners. Even then, there are degrees of off target. You can miss significantly to the sides of most targets and still safely hit the backstop. You have to be shooting incredibly wide or high to miss the backstop.

Noise is a big issue here. Suppressors are legal in Florida with the right permit - he should get them for all his firearms.

Safety is an issue as well, if the entire wall area he firing into is not thick enough to stop his strongest firearm then there is serious risk of injuring someone else. He should build a mini steel and concrete reinforced range.

Fuel tanks don't automatically explode. MythBusters did this in two episodes, and you need a tracer round fired from a long distance to ignite a tank's fuel.

Regardless of the legalities or not, if his neighbours are scared and annoyed, (and regardless of whether or not it is a rational fear), he should be considerate of his neighbours and their concerns and do more to alleviate their concerns.



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