>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^Kevlar:
To explain the religion tag, Nick's other website is www.lifewithoutlimbs.org which seems primarily spiritual/Christian, hence the tag. However, I picked a video and description from the corporate speaker side where Jesus doesn't seem to come out to party as much.

I'm thinking humanitarian and anatomy would be better fit than commercial and religion.


Good call. I sometimes miss better ones when staring at that Wall O' Channels!

>> ^Kevlar:

To explain the religion tag, Nick's other website is www.lifewithoutlimbs.org which seems primarily spiritual/Christian, hence the tag. However, I picked a video and description from the corporate speaker side where Jesus doesn't seem to come out to party as much.


I'm thinking *humanitarian and *anatomy would be better fit than commercial and religion.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Just another deluded Christian, per atheisift.


Are you now making anti-Christian statements on our behalf?

I was hoping I'd be able to get the ball rolling on the "man with no arms and no legs jokes", but oh well.

What do you call a man with no arms and no legs...
...on a doorstep?
Matt
...in a crock pot?
Stu
...in a hole?
Phil
...in the ocean?
Bob
...in a mailbox?
Bill
...in a woman's dresser?
Teddy
...on a BBQ grill?
Frank
...hanging on the wall?
Art
...water skiing?
Skip

Thanks, man!

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By far one of the most impressive and important videos here on the sift.
Suprises me it did not do too well yet.

*quality!!!

>> ^Kevlar:

To explain the religion tag, Nick's other website is www.lifewithoutlimbs.org which seems primarily spiritual/Christian, hence the tag. However, I picked a video and description from the corporate speaker side where Jesus doesn't seem to come out to party as much.


Good call, because Christian videos never get upvoted on Liberalsift.

*military
*equality
*promote

there's a heart breaking moment when that guy was eating, i was actually scared before they showed the clip i was thinking i'd have to watch someone w/ no arms

what you first all fail to understand... is that the proposed process of evolution involves gradual changes over many generations. We can agree to that correct?

So none of the so called 'Transitional Fossils' are remotely transitional.

A transitional form would be one going through the process of developing an arm / leg etc. These fossils should be plentiful considering it would take a sheerly ridiculous number of steps before the animals new form was fully developed... In otherwords.. how many generations and how many forms would it take for a arm to form in an animal which has no arms. How many millions of tries would be necessary by random mutation before it was successful.

I'm sure you can imagine the process.. considering the animal has no idea what it is trying for - the first form of an arm would be, I suppose a stump of some type... now considering this stump would serve it no actual purpose (and in the case of fish we have the peculiar situation where it randomly would need to form 4 of these in symetrical spots... all at once? or one at a time?) This stump would be a detriment.. not an improvement - and so would the tremendous number of other steps involved until this form was complete.

The key here being that every aspect of every animal and plant would need to go through this process.. and the vast majority of these changes could not occur in a beneficial manner - natural selection supposedly works because this change is an improvement.

We have no fossils which represent these transitions.. nothing that isn't fully functional. The ground should be littered with millions of these tiny changes.. in the development of eyes / limbs / and every other form. Instead we find animals which are finished products - just like IDA - well designed for their given purpose.. no works in progress.. no half-formed wings. Were these to even be demonstrated the question would still remain... if every species went through these changes for every single aspect of their development.. any fossil bed should be full of intermediates. By intermediates I mean something which is in the process of developing something.. not finished. IDA uses a thumb which we do not have to climb trees.. it is formed and completed.

One other thing to consider is that evolution's proposed mechanism is random mutation combined with natural selection.. it randomly makes changes.. the failures die out. At the heart of it the mechanism is simply random mutation. - so how many tries does a creature have to make before it randomly stumbles upon something which works? I would wager a vast number..

Thus the fossil record has a compound problem.. not only should it show transitional fossils that are in the lineage of the current form.. it should also show the millions and millions of failed attempts.. the millions of random tries toward a new limb of some kind that were rejected by natural selection.

Not only that - but the world around us should show living examples of these failed species.. because natural selection works on the flawed assumption that if something decides to start working on a new limb.. that since the new limb is a decidedly bad evolutionary change, that creature would die out. Not the case... every animal wants to survive.. and just because it has an inferior design in no way suggests they wouldn't still be around.

IDA is a lemur... a very old variety of lemur. - and no, you don't have a thumb on your foot.

I took a sad, sad, trip to a clinic once. My first impression of the waiting room was that these were very average, normal, women. They were our sisters and mothers and wives. They were the kind of women that you work with and live with and pass on the street every day.

There were also protests outside. It was January and they were chanting and holding placards. I was outside smoking a cigarette and decided to start a snowball fight. A couple of guys came outside when they saw what was going on. We completely routed them. Pro lifers have no arm. I also think both sides appreciated the opportunity to vent.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'armless, dj' to 'armless, dj, turntables, no arms' - edited by kulpims

Who AGREES to a fight with a dude with no arms or legs?

Interesting issue.

This appears to be the video he linked to: "Nick Vujicic is a giant of a man"

http://www.videosift.com/video/No-arms-No-legs-Nick-Vujicic

Downvote on behalf of people with no arms.

>> ^yourhydra:
>> ^schumi_4_ever:
yeh but because hitler commited suicide he's now in hell. at least if he got punished he would have had a chance to get in heaven.

so ur saying...if hitler died normally he would have the chance to end up in heaven after being punished in hell? But because he killed himself...that just..oh man puts it over the edge for the mighty lord, leaving him in hell forever....i would have thought he'd be in hell forever either way. it think god needs a therapy session with those values.


i mean 'if he got punished' as in if he got dragged around on the street and watever westy said, rather than committing the sin of suicide, which automatically takes you to hell obviously. so at least if he suffered a bit and didn't commit the sin of suicide, god might have gone 'fair enough at least you didn't kill yourself, you have a chance to get into heaven if you can convince me'

you obviously don't know how the whole procedure works, maybe you should read the bible some day, all the answers are in there.

>> ^schumi_4_ever:
yeh but because hitler commited suicide he's now in hell. at least if he got punished he would have had a chance to get in heaven.


so ur saying...if hitler died normally he would have the chance to end up in heaven after being punished in hell? But because he killed himself...that just..oh man puts it over the edge for the mighty lord, leaving him in hell forever....i would have thought he'd be in hell forever either way. it think god needs a therapy session with those values.